The Restore Britain March seems to have gone pretty well today from what I can glean online.

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It could be a faulty algorithm, but the trouble the PM seemed to think would happen doesn’t seem to have materialised. I’ve seen clips from the march where a diverse mix of people have marched, not just football hooligan types.

Did anyone claim you were a paid shill specifically?

I'm not saying you are, just that I haven't seen the specific claim - but obviously the thread has lots of deleted posts.

This is absurd nonsense. Labour aren't even left wing. Why do you think Scotland stopped voting Labour in huge numbers after 2015.

I'm left wing. I'm not anti semitic.

Exactly! Note: Priti Patel and Stella Braverman!

The example of that happening to your daughter is never likely to happen in the UK though and quite rightly, it never should, but we do allow inclusion of some groups of people whose views exclude others. Note the recent complaints about some factions on the pro-Palestine marches and their antisemitic views.

As you say, there is a danger in being tolerant of people who are intolerant of us but there is also a danger of calling a wide range of people racist and right-wing when they just hold a different view to those trying to claim the moral high ground.

That is stretching a point.

I said this kind of OP was populated by bots and shills (iirc - guessing my post was deleted?). The op demanded to know why I was calling her a bot so I clarified.

Well.... Same! 🤣

Let me guess - you think money spent on Y2K projects was wasted because the world’s tech stacks didn’t collapse at midnight 31st December 1999.

You're making demands again!

It's the Left who are spewing most of the anti-Semitic rhetoric, not to mention throwing the blood libel about. I am on the Left and it makes me very angry that such idiots think they speak for me. They don't.

I’m familiar with all those figures, including those which are entirely or largely mythical. The idea that the thugs who regularly appear at the TR marches have a clue or give a shit about many of them is laughable,

Going for a little lie down for a week is probably a very good idea.

But the hard and far right is exploiting antisemitism by pretending they have the best interests of Jews at heart. We know what they'd do if they had a chance. The problem with being a left wing Jew these days is - who genuinely speaks for us?

Either back it up or retract it. You are legally obliged to back up your accusation with some facts or retract it. I shall leave that with you to decide.

Did you miss the pictures of banners talking about “zionists” and propagating the blood libel - pictures taken at the right wing march?

There's no law requiring any such thing.

I'm not sure what you are specifically referring to about being anti semitic. If you are referring to being pro Palestine - I am but that doesn't make me an anti semite. Just because someone is left or right wing doesn't mean they are going to align with every other person who is either of these things.

I see a lot of posts on social media saying if you are left wing you believe this or you believe that - like people don't have an independent thought in their own head. I don't even believe we have much of a left wing presence left in the UK these days - because Starmers labour isn't it in my view.

Sorry, I've gone back and realise my error - I'd thought the "list" post was referring to the extremes of left and right wing politics, not the left and right wings as a whole. I should have been more careful in what I was responding to.

I'll stand by my view that the extremes on both sides give space and succour to antisemites, though not all members of the far left and far right personally hold antisemitic views.

No they aren't. Someone calling you a shill might be unpleasant but you aren't going to be reputationally damaged on a website by someone calling you a shill particularly as you are posting anon.

Claim the moral high ground ?

This is why my head spins on this subject.

So if I say racism in any shape or form is morally wrong, are you saying there is an alternate morality where racism is good ? That the moral high ground is conditional ?

Sigh. Answer the question. How do Jews feel about weekly pro-Palestinian marches, accusing Israel of genocide, such marches beginning on Oct 8th 23 while Hamas and friends were still committing genocide in Israel?

Nope. You don’t get to walk away from making online accusations and making statements that can lead to reputational damage, there’s laws against that I’m afraid.

Russell Brand embraced Christianity and right-wing politics as soon as the allegations of rape and sexual assault were filed by the survivors of his sexual abuse.

Russell Brand has shown public support for Tommy Robinson, providing him with a platform and praising his work.

Brand hosted an in-depth conversation with Tommy Robinson on his podcast, Stay Free with Russell Brand, where the two discussed topics like immigration and their shared Christian faith.

Rather than patriotism, in their cases I would say that the embrace of fake christianity is the last refuge of a scoundrel.