Lucy Connolly sentenced

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Lucy Connolly sentenced to two and a half years.

Do you think though, that as someone in that position, they also knew what they’re were doing? We’ve seen this many times before, they know how it ends, and whilst it may not be illegal, I’m pretty damned sure they know exactly what they’re doing and exactly what the outcome will be.

Both cases are different to Lucy Connolly, she admitted to* *intending to stir up racial hatred.

@PlantHeadNo5 yes, I've already said imo the HNH leader was bloody irresponsible. I don't think anyone should post on SM without knowing whether what they're saying is correct. He rightly got slated.

I personally wish legislation was tougher around use of SM as there seem to be a lot of dubious cases where people stay just the right side or the law; I wish they were held accountable for what they write in a harsher way.

What's offensive is people citing other cases to defend Lucy Connolly. She is a vile racist (proud of it too) who has rightly received a jail sentence for her crime.

Agree with you, I’m really surprised that people are defending her at all. Racial tension is high and we need to do anything we can to show people that it will not be tolerated. I think the problem is that people think that racists are idiots and they aren’t. Some of them are very clever and as a result, very dangerous. They know what they’re doing and they know how to get what they want.
I don’t think her sentence is too harsh. I think other sentences are simply too lenient.

Exactly this. I am not even engaging anymore, with the individuals on here who are minimising this vile woman's behaviour. She deserved the jail time. She is a criminal. She told people to MURDER people. What part of this are the apologists not getting?! How is this not getting through to them? I'm literally baffled.

Thankfully the courts and the justice system agrees that Connolly is a criminal, and THEY decide what happens to people. Thank fuck it's not down to some hand-wringing liberal-leftie (like the ones popping up on here,) who think she just deserves a pat on the head, and sympathy, because she's a 'woman' And it was 'only words.'

Give me fucking strength! I pray that these people are not in ANY position of power. The lack of critical thinking, and common sense, and actual genuine intellect from some of the apologists is terrifying!

the problem is that people think that racists are idiots and they aren’t.

I slightly disagree. Most people know that racism is as rife amongst the educated as it is amongst the not, because the ones denying it are also the ones perpetuating it. It’s just that educated people conceal it better, and are often more dangerous because they actually hold power with it.

Just as an example, there are racist threads on MN every single day. Sometimes thinly veiled and therefore deleted, but more often than not it’s well hidden and left as open discourse (some of the posts on this very thread are prime examples!) Sometimes I call it, sometimes I don’t bother, but it’s always there. Never mind the real life racism in the workplace, institutions, etc.

I'm shocked that anyone would defend her too, and I don't know anyone in real life who does. The only reason I can think of - that someone would want to defend her, is that they think there's nothing wrong with what she did, and they agree with her, and everything she said.

Speaks volumes about those posters. This is why I'm not engaging with them anymore. Not with people who support a vile racist, who told people to murder a group of people staying in a hotel.

Unfathomable that anyone supports her. Grim actually. Glad I don't know any supporters of this racist in real life.

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@PlantHeadNo5 100% agree.

The really scary thing is the people on here who are minimising what she did have no clue what they are doing. That's the insidious thing about racism. They imagine it was a 'visceral moment' or 'a horrible thing to say but she can't have really intended it' etc etc

Racism and intolerance in general are the root of terrible conflict. We've seen white supremacy right here on this thread. To be fair, it's a very small number of posters who've tried to minimise Connolly's actions; most of us can recognise how abhorrent (and criminal) they were

is this ok? absolutely not, and i do think that people with these kind of signs should be dealt with harshly.... but lets compare.. did that sign induce thousands of people to riot against terfs? Did it actually cause the decapitation of any terfs? Because last i saw, there was a hotel full of immigrants that was set alight and attacked.

Lets keep things in proportion here. Connollys tweet was part and parcel of days/weeks of rioting and violence. That sign wasn't.

I cant understand why she gets 31 months and High Edwards got nothing. Yes her tweets were abhorrent but are they worse than the vile abuse of a 7 year old that Edwards had on his phone?

@Growsomeballswoman why are you asking on here? Many of us agree with your point that Edwards deserved a harsher sentence. Not that Connolly deserved less.

They were saying this on the radio too, people making the same connection between Edwards lack of sentence and Connolly’s length of sentence. I get the point that our system isn’t great but just because one didn’t get enough doesn’t mean another shouldn’t?

I wonder if she will be let out early for ‘good behaviour’.

What a waste of taxpayers money!

….What sentence do you think someone suggesting that people should be burnt to death simply because of their ethnicity should get?

And the excuses for her keep coming!

Last night we had this post

lolly792 · Yesterday 23:36

Really odd that some people keep banging on 'do we think it's right that Lucy Connolly got this prison sentence when sex offenders don't....' .... literally no one has said that!
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ThatCalmHelper · Yesterday 23:36

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · Yesterday 22:54
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I'm not being an apologist. I think tax payers money and limited prison space should be reserved for those that are genuinely dangerous
She IS genuinely dangerous FFS! 🙄 THAT is why she has got over 2 years in jail. She was telling people to murder people!
I CBA with this anymore. It's like banging my head against a bloody brick wall!
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Meanwhile we have a local Paedo, who admitted sex with children, whose case has been deferred again and again because the courts have been told to defer sentencing as the prisons are full - and is walking free on bail.
I agree Connolly deserves a sentence, but why couldn't her hearing or indeed jail time be deferred rather than people who are an active threat to local communities roaming the streets.

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Not sure why it's there, but it's not here when I go in to edit?

But the problem isn’t that Connolly got that time in jail, it’s that rapists and paedos DON’T get the jail time they need. One does not negate the other. Paedophiles and rapists do not get enough jail time, we know this. But that’s a fault in the system, it doesn’t mean other crimes should not be appropriately punished.

I'm not quite sure why you've quoted my post? Literally no one has said it's acceptable that sex offenders are roaming the streets and haven't swiftly received proportionate sentences.

👏 THIS! ^

Exactly. The whatabouttery on this thread is mindblowing.

Start a new thread about 'soft sentences' for nonces. OR contact your MP about it. This thread is about that vile racist Lucy Connolly. Start your own thread, and stop derailing this one with your own agenda!

This is a very annoying opening message. No context as to who she is or whether you think this is good or bad.

@PlantHeadNo5 it's binary thinking at its best:

'If you think Lucy Connelly's sentence is fair, then you must think it's right that sex offenders sometimes receive less harsh sentences"

Er, no. Thinking doesn't work like that for most of us. We're entirely capable of thinking that some sentences are no where near severe enough, while simultaneously believing that it's absolutely right that vile racist incitement like Connelly's receives a custodial sentence.

I disagree that these posters 'have no idea what they are doing'. It seems clear to me that they have understanding and are using the Farage defence "What? Me? Not me guv, I'm just standing here using my free speech" to promote a racist agenda by attempting to minimise the disgusting sentiments they appear to share with Connolly. Appalling people.

It’s insane. The judicial system can Get it right in some cases, not all sentences passed down will be incorrect just because other aspects of them are. I’ve heard people saying that she shouldn’t go to jail because other more violent criminals were accidentally released early - the key word being ‘accidental’ that was a dangerous and monumental fuck up, but none of these issues mean Connolly shouldn’t be detained and punished for be terrible thing she did? People have a strange way of thinking. PLUS if you do think the criminal system is fucked, why wouldn’t you support correct sentences when they occur? Instead of complaining about them

I'd also add that while I understand it's the defence lawyer's job, it's particularly offensive that Lucy Connolly having lost a child was used as a mitigating factor.

To make a connection between that and her behaviour is deeply offensive to anyone who has lost a child. Losing a beloved child doesn't turn most people into racist, vindictive people who describe burning buildings filled with innocent families.