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Lucy Connolly sentenced

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Rockalittle78 · 17/10/2024 17:10

Lucy Connolly sentenced to two and a half years.

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Notreat · 18/10/2024 11:13

FrancisSeaton · 17/10/2024 17:20

Yet there are paedophiles and drunk drivers who get a slap on the wrist
Don't get me wrong what she did was wrong but she knew that hence the deletion

And she was encouraging people to burn down a hotel with families inside. That is also a serious crime. It was racially motivated hate crime and she only took it down when she realised she may get into trouble for it. She deserves to go to prison

Rockalittle78 · 18/10/2024 12:37

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 18/10/2024 10:59

This is a very annoying opening message. No context as to who she is or whether you think this is good or bad.

Own your annoyance.

The thread has meanwhile moved on.

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5byfive · 18/10/2024 14:11

lolly792 · 18/10/2024 09:14

@PlantHeadNo5 100% agree.

The really scary thing is the people on here who are minimising what she did have no clue what they are doing. That's the insidious thing about racism. They imagine it was a 'visceral moment' or 'a horrible thing to say but she can't have really intended it' etc etc

Racism and intolerance in general are the root of terrible conflict. We've seen white supremacy right here on this thread. To be fair, it's a very small number of posters who've tried to minimise Connolly's actions; most of us can recognise how abhorrent (and criminal) they were

This wouldn’t actually be a criminal offence in most countries though and as we are likely to see in the Ricky Jones (who did exactly the same thing) it probably won’t meet the requirements to be found guilty of the offence in a British court.

The advice given to her to plead guilty was probably inappropriate.

lolly792 · 18/10/2024 14:35

I'm glad to live in a country where posting on social media vile racist comments inciting racial violence is a criminal offence.

Rockalittle78 · 18/10/2024 14:39

lolly792 · 18/10/2024 14:35

I'm glad to live in a country where posting on social media vile racist comments inciting racial violence is a criminal offence.

Same here.

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Notreat · 18/10/2024 14:42

It doesn't matter what the law is in other countries but incitement to racial hatred and violence is a crime in many countries.
Lucy Connolly was calling for people to burn down buildings with people inside them at a time of violent unrest and she had no regrets about it either. I honestly don't understand why people are defending her.

5byfive · 18/10/2024 15:11

Notreat · 18/10/2024 14:42

It doesn't matter what the law is in other countries but incitement to racial hatred and violence is a crime in many countries.
Lucy Connolly was calling for people to burn down buildings with people inside them at a time of violent unrest and she had no regrets about it either. I honestly don't understand why people are defending her.

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People defend her because they know there will be a time they, and you, don’t agree with the government of the day’s policy and value their right to shout about it.

No other reason.

lolly792 · 18/10/2024 15:22

Speak for yourself. Some of us won't ever want to post vile racism and incite people to commit murder.

DuncinToffee · 18/10/2024 15:28

5byfive · 18/10/2024 15:11

People defend her because they know there will be a time they, and you, don’t agree with the government of the day’s policy and value their right to shout about it.

No other reason.

She didn't get charged with disagreeing with the government, she got charged with inciting violence and racism.

Do you think suggesting setting fire to a hotel with people in are just 'hurty words' or 'free speech'?

5byfive · 18/10/2024 15:49

Who do you think she was talking to? A bunch of middle class Tory housewifes followers didn’t go setting hotels on fire. I wasn’t a follower btw.

Have you read the law she was charged with? Whoever posted that video of those people assaulting the police at Manchester Airport could be charged with it?

lolly792 · 18/10/2024 15:55

I think we all know the offence she's guilty of, and is rightly sentenced for.

And still a small minority defend her vile behaviour......

DuncinToffee · 18/10/2024 15:58

https://www.cps.gov.uk/cps/news/updated-sentence-childminder-admits-inciting-racial-hatred-over-social-media-post

During police interview Lucy Connolly stated she had strong views on immigration, told officers she did not like illegal immigrants and claimed that children were not safe from them.

It is not an offence to have strong or differing political views, but it is an offence to incite racial hatred – and that is what Connolly has admitted doing.

DuncinToffee · 18/10/2024 16:00

Also from the CPS article

The post was also shared by 26-year-old father-of-three Tyler Kay who was sentenced last month to 38 months after admitting publishing material intended to stir up racial hatred.

Scenicgirl · 18/10/2024 17:41

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 18/10/2024 09:10

Exactly this. I am not even engaging anymore, with the individuals on here who are minimising this vile woman's behaviour. She deserved the jail time. She is a criminal. She told people to MURDER people. What part of this are the apologists not getting?! Confused How is this not getting through to them? I'm literally baffled.

Thankfully the courts and the justice system agrees that Connolly is a criminal, and THEY decide what happens to people. Thank fuck it's not down to some hand-wringing liberal-leftie (like the ones popping up on here,) who think she just deserves a pat on the head, and sympathy, because she's a 'woman' And it was 'only words.'

Give me fucking strength! Hmm I pray that these people are not in ANY position of power. The lack of critical thinking, and common sense, and actual genuine intellect from some of the apologists is terrifying!

And yet, here you are.......
If this post annoys you to this extent I would take a deep breath, step back and allow other people, (rightly or wrongly) to their own opinions because actually we still live in a country where we can still have our own opinions.
Im not saying what she did was acceptable by the way but some people do get so worked up on here.

lolly792 · 18/10/2024 18:03

I agree that if anyone is feeling personally very stressed about a thread then it may be sensible for them to step back. But that up to them, not to anyone else to appoint themselves as thread monitor!

And actually, it's understandable that people are going to feel strongly about an issue like this. Posting disgusting racist stuff on social media .... writing about burning down hotels and killing those inside... ? Yeap, quite rightly people are going to have passionate feelings about that sort of hatred.

Murdoch1949 · 18/10/2024 18:13

ComtesseDeSpair · 17/10/2024 17:37

after calling for hotels housing asylum seekers to be set on fire.

Somebody with a reasonably high profile in the community and married to an MP inciting arson and murder is pretty serious, more so than the average Jo with no influence doing the same. Her other posts about “deport asylum seekers” etc I agree fall into the “free speech even if you don’t like what’s being said” category - but not that.

She's married to a councillor not an MP.

Scenicgirl · 18/10/2024 18:13

lolly792 · 18/10/2024 18:03

I agree that if anyone is feeling personally very stressed about a thread then it may be sensible for them to step back. But that up to them, not to anyone else to appoint themselves as thread monitor!

And actually, it's understandable that people are going to feel strongly about an issue like this. Posting disgusting racist stuff on social media .... writing about burning down hotels and killing those inside... ? Yeap, quite rightly people are going to have passionate feelings about that sort of hatred.

I do agree but to get to the point of using filthy language and saying that you are not engaging then engaging is rather hypocritical.
I didn't appoint myself as thread monitor just making a point!

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 18/10/2024 18:41

lolly792 · 18/10/2024 18:03

I agree that if anyone is feeling personally very stressed about a thread then it may be sensible for them to step back. But that up to them, not to anyone else to appoint themselves as thread monitor!

And actually, it's understandable that people are going to feel strongly about an issue like this. Posting disgusting racist stuff on social media .... writing about burning down hotels and killing those inside... ? Yeap, quite rightly people are going to have passionate feelings about that sort of hatred.

This. ^ Like hell will I take orders from someone appointing themselves Head Girl!

And yes I DO feel strongly about people posting racist shit on the internet - and telling people to murder people. What is almost as annoying though is people minimising it, hand-wringing, and saying it was 'only words!' Piss take honestly!

I won't be silenced by the 'take a step back from the thread' wannabe thread monitors. And I find it hilarious that they think I will be. 😆

I said I am not engaging with the apologists for this vile racist woman, (because their posts are ludicrous, infuriating, and pathetic,) NOT that I was going to stop posting, and leave the thread.

Nice try though. Wink

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PlantHeadNo5 · 18/10/2024 18:44

5byfive · 18/10/2024 15:11

People defend her because they know there will be a time they, and you, don’t agree with the government of the day’s policy and value their right to shout about it.

No other reason.

….I hope all governments of any day have policies where we don’t murder people by setting fire to their living areas simply because of their ethnicity.

She didn’t disagree with governmental policies, she said that the hotels housing refugees should be burnt down and she didn’t care if that made her racist. She LNOWS she is racist and happily admitted it.

She also made those tweets based off lies about who the killer was. How anyone is still defending what happened during that time is wild.
This isn’t about some amazing Robin Hood type, standing up to the government via Twitter, it’s about a woman inciting racial hatred and suggesting that refugees and immigrants deserve to die by being burned alive because she immediately believed lies circling on Twitter and wouldn’t or couldn’t wait for the truth of the matter. Because she’s a racist.

Edited to add: the lies she believed were also likely made up to incite racial hatred because they knew that racists like Connolly would be slathering all over it. They got what they wanted, which was racism and violence and hatred. I hope that others are also convicted. We need to send a strong message that this behaviour is unacceptable.

AlwaysGinPlease · 18/10/2024 19:33

FrancisSeaton · 17/10/2024 20:40

But she didn't physically harm anyone. That's the whole point she's got a far harsher sentence than people who kill and sexually abuse others

Are you hard of understanding ? She tried to incite others to murder people. It's not enough to not be racist. We must be anti racist. She's a low life and she was rightly put away. What sentences others get is not relevant to this. Yes it's a disgrace that they don't get appropriate sentences but that is not relevant to this case.

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 18/10/2024 19:37

AlwaysGinPlease · 18/10/2024 19:33

Are you hard of understanding ? She tried to incite others to murder people. It's not enough to not be racist. We must be anti racist. She's a low life and she was rightly put away. What sentences others get is not relevant to this. Yes it's a disgrace that they don't get appropriate sentences but that is not relevant to this case.

Well said @AlwaysGinPlease ! 👏

AlwaysGinPlease · 18/10/2024 20:05

@LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway thank you, it's baffling how people don't think she was wrong isn't it.

stuckdownahole · 18/10/2024 20:25

AlwaysGinPlease · 18/10/2024 19:33

Are you hard of understanding ? She tried to incite others to murder people. It's not enough to not be racist. We must be anti racist. She's a low life and she was rightly put away. What sentences others get is not relevant to this. Yes it's a disgrace that they don't get appropriate sentences but that is not relevant to this case.

Would like to point out that being racist is not a crime, being a low life is not a crime, we have freedom of speech in this country. Nick Griffin, leader of the BNP, went on Question Time some 15 years ago and called for mass deportations of people that were in his view not indigenous. On an earlier occasion, he referred to Islam as a "wicked, vicious faith". Those were his opinions, which he was / still is entitled to hold, whether you like it or not.

The offence is inciting violence against others. You can shout "fuck the King" but not "kill the King".

PlantHeadNo5 · 18/10/2024 20:28

Ooh look, one racist wondering why another racist has to go to jail for their racist behaviour.