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Lucy Connolly sentenced

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Rockalittle78 · 17/10/2024 17:10

Lucy Connolly sentenced to two and a half years.

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bitsalty · 17/10/2024 17:19

Any context or a link? Who is she?

FrancisSeaton · 17/10/2024 17:20

Yet there are paedophiles and drunk drivers who get a slap on the wrist
Don't get me wrong what she did was wrong but she knew that hence the deletion

Rockalittle78 · 17/10/2024 17:21

bitsalty · 17/10/2024 17:19

Any context or a link? Who is she?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3wkzgpjxvo.amp

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ComtesseDeSpair · 17/10/2024 17:37

after calling for hotels housing asylum seekers to be set on fire.

Somebody with a reasonably high profile in the community and married to an MP inciting arson and murder is pretty serious, more so than the average Jo with no influence doing the same. Her other posts about “deport asylum seekers” etc I agree fall into the “free speech even if you don’t like what’s being said” category - but not that.

ASD33 · 17/10/2024 17:44

She will only serve about 14 months. She was inciting people to burn hotels down with refugees inside knowing that she had an audience and the tensions at the time, and she doesn't appear to have shown a hint of remorse for the innocent people who could have been hurt or killed. I say the sentence is appropriate, light even. She really thought she would get away with it based on her whatsapp messages, disgusting and unbelievable really.

nocoolnamesleft · 17/10/2024 17:44

So she was inciting a mob to commit arson and murder? That does sound like quite a nasty criminal offence to me.

HowYouSpellingThat10 · 17/10/2024 17:46

Something about this one makes me feel deeply uncomfortable.

I don't agree with what she said and agree she should be punished but this is disproportionate.

She isn't a political figure even if her husband is.

My worry is that this feeds exactly what they are trying to avoid. Where are the same sentences for the Leeds riots?

It allows the creation of a narrative that is unhelpful to integration and ultimately causes more divisions.

If she'd said 'meet at x hotel at 7pm' I'd feel differently but this was more of an ill worded rant. Not right but not worth a higher sentence than serious criminality.

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 17/10/2024 17:47

It's worth reading the full story because the addition WhatsApp messages and tweets demonstrate that she's a nasty racist and bigot who knew exactly what she was doing and is an all round unpleasant individual.

news.sky.com/story/wife-of-tory-councillor-jailed-for-31-months-over-social-media-post-stirring-up-racial-hatred-13234756

HowYouSpellingThat10 · 17/10/2024 17:48

I would encourage people to read the words she wrote. I don't think they are good but saying 'for all I care' is passive rather than active.

thedefinitionofmadness · 17/10/2024 17:49

FrancisSeaton · 17/10/2024 17:20

Yet there are paedophiles and drunk drivers who get a slap on the wrist
Don't get me wrong what she did was wrong but she knew that hence the deletion

Yet she did it anyway

An MPs wife with 10000 followers should not be espousing race hatred.

The impact of actions like hers are still being felt in the community where I work and live.

Absolutely should be a custodial sentence.

RockyRogue1001 · 17/10/2024 17:52

And she's a childminder
So that'll show on her dbs

I think she absolutely deserves it

Simonjt · 17/10/2024 17:53

Calling attempting to incite racist violence against complete strangers merely a rant, thats like saying tate merely has rants when he encourages other men to rape women.

I’m glad she is being suitably punished.

LeoOakley · 17/10/2024 17:53

FrancisSeaton · 17/10/2024 17:20

Yet there are paedophiles and drunk drivers who get a slap on the wrist
Don't get me wrong what she did was wrong but she knew that hence the deletion

It doesn't mean she doesn't deserve this custodial sentence. It simply means our laws are lax in other areas.

HowYouSpellingThat10 · 17/10/2024 17:53

This was the full tweet for context.

"Mass deportation now, set fire to all the f hotels full of the bs for all I care … If that makes me racist, so be it"

It's undoubtedly horrible but open to interpretation in regard to inciting.

lolly792 · 17/10/2024 17:55

The things she put out over social media were vile. Inciting arson and burning innocent people to death.

Absolutely right that it's a custodial sentence: I bet she won't even be in prison for more than a year and a half.

Apparently she was a child minder too - poor kids being looked after by someone full of hate.

It's completely right that bigoted cowards who think they can hide behind a keyboard aren't getting away with such vile actions

DogInATent · 17/10/2024 17:55

thedefinitionofmadness · 17/10/2024 17:49

Yet she did it anyway

An MPs wife with 10000 followers should not be espousing race hatred.

The impact of actions like hers are still being felt in the community where I work and live.

Absolutely should be a custodial sentence.

She's not the wife of an MP.

Figgygal · 17/10/2024 17:57

thedefinitionofmadness · 17/10/2024 17:49

Yet she did it anyway

An MPs wife with 10000 followers should not be espousing race hatred.

The impact of actions like hers are still being felt in the community where I work and live.

Absolutely should be a custodial sentence.

Agreed and as for her husband saying it was out of character for her not it wasn't she was a nasty racist. Feel sorry for her kids and any kids that were in her care as a childminder

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 17/10/2024 17:58

Tory councillor, not MP.

I agree with the sentence. She sounds unpleasant - saying she'll keep working on the sly while de-registered as a childminder, saying she'll "play the mental health card" if arrested, and using the death of her son as a defence. I'd honestly feel quite sick if I'd lost a child and my husband used it in a defence for racial hatred because it "can only have a detrimental effect on someone" (defence lawyer's words).

The fact other crimes get shorter sentences is an issue with those being too short imo, not with this one being too long.

ShiteRider · 17/10/2024 17:58

HowYouSpellingThat10 · 17/10/2024 17:53

This was the full tweet for context.

"Mass deportation now, set fire to all the f hotels full of the bs for all I care … If that makes me racist, so be it"

It's undoubtedly horrible but open to interpretation in regard to inciting.

In what way is this open to interpretation?

I genuinely don’t understand how it could be anything but incitement.

ThornVampire · 17/10/2024 18:00

HowYouSpellingThat10 · 17/10/2024 17:53

This was the full tweet for context.

"Mass deportation now, set fire to all the f hotels full of the bs for all I care … If that makes me racist, so be it"

It's undoubtedly horrible but open to interpretation in regard to inciting.

So what would you say means as in regard to incitement?

thedefinitionofmadness · 17/10/2024 18:01

Apologies I was thinking/typing too quickly. Not an MP's wife. Councillor's wife.

Simonjt · 17/10/2024 18:02

HowYouSpellingThat10 · 17/10/2024 17:53

This was the full tweet for context.

"Mass deportation now, set fire to all the f hotels full of the bs for all I care … If that makes me racist, so be it"

It's undoubtedly horrible but open to interpretation in regard to inciting.

Are you also a racist who wishes for people to be burned alive, and thats why you see it as open to interpreation?

HowYouSpellingThat10 · 17/10/2024 18:10

Simonjt · 17/10/2024 18:02

Are you also a racist who wishes for people to be burned alive, and thats why you see it as open to interpreation?

Absolutely not. But I think saying 'for all I care' means 'i don't mind if you do' rather than 'go and do it now'.

I have never argued she shouldn't be punished, just that this is not on the level of the sentence.

Where I was staying after October 7th people were openly celebrating, waving flags from cars. I know it's complicated but celebrating deaths was deeply unpleasant to witness (and that was before everything that has followed). And yet I've seen no arrests.

My argument is not that she shouldn't be punished but that by giving such a sentence when it is not applied universally creates division and a narrative the far right will exploit.

PlantHeadNo5 · 17/10/2024 18:10

FrancisSeaton · 17/10/2024 17:20

Yet there are paedophiles and drunk drivers who get a slap on the wrist
Don't get me wrong what she did was wrong but she knew that hence the deletion

But this is inciting rioting and potentially murder . I agree with you that other sentences are way too low, but this is fucking serious.

And I do believe it was inciting.

Comedycook · 17/10/2024 18:15

What she did was wrong and she should be punished in some way. I think the sentence is far too severe though.

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