Lucy Connolly sentenced

[Rockalittle78]

Lucy Connolly sentenced to two and a half years.

Not at all, prisons were running at 91% occupancy, criminals were getting sent down, then they bumped the protesters forward giving court appearances and sentences almost next day and filled them up, therefore deferring sentences on cases that have dragged months of years.

By the way, I do, an IBM Selectric 2.

People plead guilty for tactical reasons all the time.

She knew she was scuppered when even more ridiculously the person who retweeted her comment got jailed for a few years last month.

I’m in no way defending her actions however when put into context of other offending anyone who claims her sentence is appropriate is simply being disingenuous.

Ermmm.... Bentley was executed and it was an enormous miscarriage of justice for which a royal pardon was eventually and shamefully belatedly given : so maybe not your best example
@Piggywaspushed exactly what I was about to say! But @LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway have their own agenda judging by the number of posts, and boring facts won't get in the way of that ....

"A wholly inappropriate message?"
Wtaf?

The minimising of someone putting out on social media that innocent people should be burnt to death is disgusting.

Inappropriate?! Try, totally vile. And criminal.

FFS. I don't know how racist tweets inciting violence could be misinterpreted. Yet again, loads of MN subscribers exposing their racist tendencies however, can't be seen as such because "I have a Black / Asian friend! Don't meet them much; diaries collide etc and what do they eat?" mindset!

We have approximately 100,000 prison spaces in the UK.

Do I think more than 100,000 people commit a criminal act? Of course I do.

Is it reasonable to expect the worst 100,000 offenders to be in prison. Of course it is.

Do I think she committed an offence? Of course I do.

Do I think she’s amongst the worst 100,000 criminals? Not in a million years.

Why do you find it scary to think that someone can get jailed for that length of time for inciting racially motivated violence? I find it reassuring rather than scary.

Surely it's only scary for those who might have committed crimes that could be punished in this way? Are you worried about stuff that you have said online?

We were all very distressed about the murder of those three little girls in Southport, but unless you are a racist, it's blindingly obvious that that terrible incident was completely unconnected to people talking about setting fire to asylum seeker accommodation. When people suggest that being upset about the murders might somehow be a mitigating factor in the vile, racist tweets, I can only find one possible explanation as to why they would make that connection.

@MrsBennetsPoorNerves 👏🏼👏🏼

The posters who are saying, yes she did wrong but in the wider scheme of things it's not so bad, just don't get it. It's white supremacy right there. They just don't see the impact of hateful racism.

Please can we stop comparing her to Huw Edwards and various local paedos? Literally not remotely alike.

She incited and encouraged the potential murder of humans at a moment in time when she KNEW tensions were high and right-wing vigilantes were looking for any encouragement they could use to spur themselves on. That cannot be minimised.

Having said that, her sentence - though fair - IS disproportionate and it doesn't help build harmonious communities when it APPEARS that you can call for Jihad/burn Jewish flags/attack police officers and commit similar hate crimes without retribution.

If Kier - and the criminal system - are going to take a hard line on hate speech, (and good for them) it has to apply to everyone equally. We can't have half our police force being racist and the other half too scared to make arrests or pursue cases of hate speech for fear of being called racist.

I am glad that this repulsive, racist horror is going to prison. I just hope that Mr "they're all fascists. We need to cut their throats" is treated equally ruthlessly come January. Because if he isn't, it just feeds into the "Look at the two tier policing" narrative and actually, starts to make it true ....

People like Lucy Connolly are a danger to society.

I think it is harsh even though her political views could not be further away from mine
But then I think the vast majority of people in prison should not be there

GOOD

I'm guessing that some of the people who are saying that this sentence is too harsh were among the posters who were here posting racist shit on MN when the riots were happening. MN turned into a right wing cesspit during that time. I'm sure that many of them are still around.

Remember some threats are fine, in fact so fine that MPs consider them a good photo opportunity.

@MrsBennetsPoorNerves yes I remember thinking how savage MN was at the time

There's no way, if this person was a man who wrote something remotely similar about women, anyone here feeling some type of sympathy or understanding or outrage for her would feel the same way. It's obvious, when it comes to a white woman vs non-whites, where some people's sympathies lie. Nitpicking words and excusing intentions. 🙄

She knew better and was happy to be called what she is - racist. She should face the consequences - not nearly enough.

I appreciate what she said could potentially have incited violence, but the people that would have acted on her tweet would probably still have done whatever it is they would have done anyway and used something else as an excuse

I was in rural wales with no tv and no signal while all this was happening and even o know that there was no potentially about it.
You are coming up with every excuse in the book to minimize what this woman did. It’s terrible behaviour.

Exactly this.

It doesn’t surprise me at all, a lot of people are extremely racist, and a lot of them are very proud of their racism.

Scary really. Be interesting what sentence Ricky Jones gets in January for actually inciting violence, from a position of relative power, at an already hostile rally.

No, but then again I don't try to twist people's words on MN either.....

Dreadful woman, thank goodness she has received a sentence. She won't serve very long, maybe six months, if she behaves herself inside but it will send a message to other people who try to incite hatred and riots amongst the ignorant. My only misgiving is that she will have a captive audience inside an inspire followers, I hope she is watched but I doubt there will be sufficient resources for that.

The law is often an ass but in this case, is spot on.

It was an appalling vile offensive thing to say of course and obviously the woman is racist.

however I think we have to give due thought to whether the woman in reality was provoking a realistic act of harming asylum seekers. If the woman has conspired with or communicated with a group of thugs who had known intent to set fire to a hostel this in my opinion is a different story to a vicious rant. One is demonstrably looking for actual harm and aiding it the other is an ill worded rant on the internet.

the problem with this sentence and it's lengthy is that does it leave free speech open to questi on? Asking for the deportation of asylum seekers may be grossly offensive to some but does it or should it meet the bar for criminality?

I think a community service sentence would be a lot more appropriate and this only serves to make the woman a martyr.

Good.

She incited people to burn other humans to their death.

Humans who have likely already suffered more than she will even experience being in jail.

Based on incorrect information and nothing other than a racist attitude.

I'd have been pissed off if she's got away with it because of her spouse.