Man killed by own XL Bully dog in home

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Will anything be done ? Will it bogroll,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdrlkn8m35no

@Idratherbepaddleboarding from your post you seem well placed to be insightful about whats going on with the owners of these dogs.
How can they be so blind to the risk?!?!

There's one near me who fixates on any child walking past, including my 3 year old daughter. I'm petrified of it!

I hope it's muzzled if not please report it!

They either don’t understand it, they don’t care or they like the risk and the “status” and “protection” that comes with having one of them. It’s the same as carrying a knife really or shooting up heroin in their groin, shoplifting, drug dealing, burglary etc… obviously not everyone with an XL Bully is doing that but a good number are! “We” (in general) don’t understand why people do those things but “we” are not part of that lifestyle.

They’re not paying £100 for one either before the ban, they were going for up to 4 grand! Oh and then it seems like breeding them is a quick way to make money…

Thanks for your reply @Idratherbepaddleboarding
I guess the 4k price tag is part of what keeps the dogs in circulation- having spent that much money the next step will be to breed from the dog & get a return on the investment.

We have no idea about the owner. Was he an experienced dog owner? Did he train and exercise the dog properly?

The other thing this proves is how pointless the new law is. This dog was in the home, with the owner, not muzzled, not on a lead. Most of these incidents happen in the home.

The vast majority on MN do seem to be of the same mindset that you’d have to be daft to get a dog like this, but this does have parallels for me with some Americans with their obsession with the right to have guns, the bigger threat guns the better

I just don’t understand those people 🤷‍♀️

Sadly dog fighting is not consigned to history.

Fucking hell!

Those dogs are a liability. The kind of person who wants to keep a dog specifically genetically engineered to be aggressive, and kill whatever it attacks, as a pet, DESERVES whatever that dog does to them. The victims who DONT deserve to be maimed or killed are those attacked (human or other animal) by that vile breed of dog.

When its the owner I feel nothing but an oh well 🤷

Same here. And when the dog is rightly destroyed I also think 'Good. That's one less XL able to hurt anyone/anything else'. Harsh, but true.

@BlackShuck3 yes and when your mate has a litter and tells you you can have one and pay them back for it weekly, you go for it.

But I’ve been (over) thinking this on a long drive and I’ve come up with the following thoughts.

The majority of these people are living in pure survival mode. They don’t, or can’t, think of the consequences further down the line, they want to feel safe and protected and survive another day. It’s the same reason that a lot of the women have a boyfriend with steroid muscles and a string of domestic abuse convictions (often against them!), yet they still invite him into their home to live with their kids because he makes them feel safe right now. They don’t think that the dog (or man) could turn on them and kill them at any moment. They, men and women, don’t think that if they carry a knife, they’re more likely to get stabbed or if they commit an offence they might go to prison or if they take the drugs they might overdose, they live in the here and now and they do what they think they need to right now.

Also, I think we choose what we have, including our pets, subconsciously to reflect our personalities and our sub culture. Our lab really is ‘soft as shit’ and so are we 😂. If I saw myself as hard and could stand up for myself, I’d probably choose a more aggressive breed. If I see another owner with a well trained, working dog I subconsciously think, “aha that’s my kind of person, they probably have similar values to me” and also subconsciously, that’s the image I want to project.

Anyway that’s a bit of a ramble but with a bit of research, I could probably submit it as a PHD thesis 😂.

It's just so much more justice than poor old Albert walking down the road and paying the ultimate price for some idiots terrible decisions. I was haunted reading about the poor man in Walsall in he's own back garden being ambushed by 2!!

XL Bully puppies are openly advertised for sale on FB. Which means people are still breeding them; isn't that illegal ?

The new law is not pointless.The only pointless thing it doesn’t go far enough and a cull would be better.

Also, you only hear about the fatalities in the news. The countless bites and disfigurements are unreported in the media. A friend of ours was bitten protecting their labradoodle (and 2 young DC) from an XL bully. Police have done FA. We know at least 1 other person has been bitten by the same dog in recent weeks. Why has it not been seized and owner arrested???

I admire her for trying to defend her dog I'd of been off like a rocket 🚀

@Xmasxrackers
the ripping off of arms is quite common with these dogs. I guess you use your arms to protect you and the dog grabs your arm, you struggle which excites the dog, it pulls & twists until ligaments tear. There was an attack (last year I think) in the UK where a womans breasts were torn off. I cant find the report but I found this:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/27876010/xl-bully-tore-woman-breast-implants-norfolk/
No need to click the link this tells you all you need to know:
'Despite her harrowing ordeal, Charlie remains a supporter of XL Bullies insisting any breed could attack.'

I agree with you on the survival mode thing @Idratherbepaddleboarding and the dog being a reflection of it's owner.

My cousins dh’s relative was attacked a few weeks ago by an American bully. He had had to have the skin around he neck stitched back together, his face and a lot of his one arm. It attacked 2 other children too. All of them 9. His mum broke her knee trying to get it off him. He was in surgery 4 hours. The owner was a friend of the mum. The dog was caged while they had visitors and managed to break free

Still being bred and openly advertised for sale.

www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61563431400927

Another man has been killed and police are searching for the missing dogs, which are on the loose.

WHY, oh WHY do people want these demon dogs?! I don't want to hate on such a nice animal as a dog, but I don't even think of them at dogs. They're a cross between a bear and a shark.. Just so aggressive and strong and dangerous.

Illegal to breed them. Illegal to sell them. And the police are doing ?