Why are there suddenly loads of protests?

[Newsenmum]

All these awful EDL protests- why are they suddenly happening? Whats kicking them all off? One in Bristol today is scary.

😂😂😂😂😂😂

There was co-ordinated, pre planned criminal damage at multiple locations up and down the country. They prepared for it, they brought the paint. At one event 6 officers were injured.

And you’re trying to shrug it off as ‘spur of the moment’ as you’re flustered?

Well done for pointing out the spin. The same with what happened to George Floyd (deplorable, obviously) and other videos of police brutality, no mention of social media being a problem then, and how it promoted a huge swathe of BLM protests. It's only a problem when it runs counter the left's narrative. It's astonishing how people will ignore their own bias.

Do you have any idea how much damage was done by the BLM riots in the US following the death of George Floyd? The rioting in Portland went on for months.

Agree,

I can fully acknowledge there is a scale of ‘bad’ and the riots this week have been ‘worse’ than all events between 2011 and now. Due to the fact they were in multiple locations and the scale of damage caused. I’m very happy to say the men ARE fight right thugs, nothing they did can be justified by ‘concerns about immigration’ and I would happily see them all locked away.

But the blatant hypocrisy, self congratulation and faux ‘concerns’ of the left wing are utterly laughable. They care about poverty and racism, apparently. Yet they don’t really like brexit voting working class people, they won’t acknowledge (as is stated time and time again by social scientists) that the far right grows in times of poverty. They wax lyrical about refugees but would be horrified if an asylum hotel popped up on their lovely, quiet road. They’d happily call you racist for thinking that way, though.

And now, here we have several incidents of the same nature - criminal damage, injured police, pre planned chaos, public disturbance - but anything with a left wing motive is swept under the rug because it’s a bit embarrassing to admit violent disorder is not the preserve of the far right, far from it. It doesn’t enable them to play the victim and make out they’re on the side of the peaceful and righteous.

I’m not shrugging anything off, nor am I flustered. Those people should be dealt with in the same way as the latest hooligans and vandals. I’m not in any disagreement with that. I’m not condoning vandalism, and I never would.

But these were isolated incidents. We weren’t hearing constant sirens screaming past our homes, in fear of leaving the house, as we have been this week. If you live in an affected area, it’s very scary right now. And I’m white, so god only knows how much worse it is for people who are Asian or black.

These riots are x1000 in terms of scale as a handful of targeted attacks on banks. Or did thousands of people turn up to daub these banks with paint? Did they take over whole city centres? Were they attacking every white person who passed by and making threats to kill? Did those ‘protestors’ organise online for a rent-a-mob, encouraged by politicians? Did they go on to loot businesses?

I do wonder how many of those protestors really are suffering from poverty though

I wonder if they are suffering from jealousy rather than true poverty - if the reports are to be believed, many are getting trains into an area which isn't cheap , and not is shopping in Waitrose

I wouldn’t call the targeting of 20 buildings an ‘isolated occurrence’ would you?

The tactics are the same - public disorder, criminal damage, injured police. I’m asking how you define the tactics of terrorism and therefore whether other protest groups would meet that definition?

Wait until the EU visa scheme kicks in and they are all banned from going to Spain on holiday...

I obviously meant that the bank was the ONLY target of their destruction, not entire town centres. You’re being deliberately obtuse.

How likely is this?

Not sure I’ve missed this or joking

The BLM protests were not attacking random white people. The protests this weekend have seen random black and brown people being attacked.
BLM pulled down a statue and daubed paint. Totally different to physically attaching random members of the public, and burning down a library and citizens advice bureau.

Graham Linehan is not a GC woman or a racist thug as far as I know, so I'm unsure of your point.
And I'm not suggesting "cancelling" anyone. I'm asking that you specifically stop aligning GC womens reasonable concerns about men in womens prisons (for example) with racists who are rioting and smashing up shit

A lot of white peoples took part in BLM, friends of mine did. A lot of police were attacked.

Sunspots>>hot weather>> idiots drink too much and pick a fight

It's happening.

There is a visa waiver scheme coming in from October which is similar to the US one. Non EU citizens (yes that includes us) will have to pay for a visa waiver that lasts a couple of years. You will need to provide fingerprints on your first entry to the EU.

But if you have a criminal conviction you won't be eligible for a waiver so they can prevent your entry.

A conviction for being a racist rioter will mean holidays in Skeg for the rest of your life.

I said further up thread, I’m very happy to acknowledge it was on a lower scale. But the tactics are the same aren’t they?

I would expect the EU visa will restrict entry of people who have a criminal record. I believe that's what Canada and the USA do. Probably Aus as well.

I'll laugh my fucking head off. Hoisted by their own petard good and proper.

He’s not on holiday atm

ETIAS scheme it's called.

Officially starts mid 2025 but fingerprint thing starts mid October (lots of countries saying they aren't ready for this and it's going to be a cluster fuck with huge queues for Brits. I am not planning on going to the EU in October half term for a reason...)

Do you think anyone with a criminal record should be blocked/deported from a country that isn’t their place of birth? Just wondering how far this would extend.

I agree it would be hilarious though 🙃 and support the Spanish in this.

Not sure we’ll be laughing. Vetting on the way out and none on the way in

People stuck here. I wonder what could go wrong..

That's not what I said 🙄
I think its entirely reasonable for countries to control their borders by denying visas to known criminals. Seems like good border control to me and something these dickhead rioters won't have considered.

Ok thanks

I’m so glad I have other passports rn

So we should deport anybody with a criminal record who is not British by birth? Or are you saying it’s fine as long as they quickly gain residency rights first? I’m trying to iron out the basic premise.