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Why are there suddenly loads of protests?

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Newsenmum · 03/08/2024 20:36

All these awful EDL protests- why are they suddenly happening? Whats kicking them all off? One in Bristol today is scary.

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caringcarer · 04/08/2024 12:00

Persiancouscous · 03/08/2024 22:59

What makes you assume it's EDL? People have had enough of the bias discrimination. The PM has said he is giving police powers to protect the public from "extremists" which is equally funny as I don't remember him doing that 2 weeks ago when Leeds was burning or the other times protesters have unacceptably gone turbo.

Again Manchester airport police officer was accused of being racist and protests broke out. Floyd affect were statues were torn down and police were told not to get involved.

There certainly isn't equality going on. Have 3 BAME girls got stabbed by a white guy the streets would also be burning and rightly so. People are angry at the inequality taking place.

People are quick to jump on the bandwagon about racist police brutality but when the tables turn the other way they are called stupid and thick.

No wonder everyone is losing their heads.

I agree about 2 different types of policing. The police should be impartial and respond to all violence and vandalism in a similar manner but they don't. This causes a lot of contention.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 04/08/2024 12:01

caringcarer · 04/08/2024 11:54

He didn't call a Cobra meeting to manage events. Instead he flew off on to his holiday leaving the country in chaos.

And once again...he isn't on holiday. He has been working, responding and holding meetings with his colleagues to address the issues. But don't let the inconvenient facts get in the way of your indignation.

VerySadCase · 04/08/2024 12:03

caringcarer · 04/08/2024 12:00

I agree about 2 different types of policing. The police should be impartial and respond to all violence and vandalism in a similar manner but they don't. This causes a lot of contention.

As @CassieMaddox has pointed out, there will be different responses to random localised spontaneous riots and coordinated national campaigns orchestrated by terrorist organisations.

Rainbowsponge · 04/08/2024 12:05

VerySadCase · 04/08/2024 12:03

As @CassieMaddox has pointed out, there will be different responses to random localised spontaneous riots and coordinated national campaigns orchestrated by terrorist organisations.

The response should be proportionate but the same. The events from last night were localised, but multiple. The police utterly failed at Harehills in my opinion, although arrests have now been made.

VerySadCase · 04/08/2024 12:10

Rainbowsponge · 04/08/2024 12:05

The response should be proportionate but the same. The events from last night were localised, but multiple. The police utterly failed at Harehills in my opinion, although arrests have now been made.

The events last night were part of a national campaign of terror orchestrated by known far right extremists. You would expect a different response to criminality on this scale.

Dandeliontea123 · 04/08/2024 12:12

Downing Street have confirmed that Keir Starmer didn't have plans to go on holiday and is going to be working this week. So whatever rumours some of you have seen are wrong and should be reported on social media as misinformation.

Efacsen · 04/08/2024 12:12

Midnightalready · 04/08/2024 11:45

You think you're being clever, but you're not. People post videos of what they are witnessing on the streets. The videos are very clearly not faked. The narrative that the protests are entirely made up by far right thugs is as far from the truth as the narrative that all gender critical women are right-wing bigots, a narrative which credible, verifiable sources are constantly happy to promote.

Okay I've had a look at the hashtag you're recommending but won't post examples from

Yesterday lots about [a] 'stabbing/s in Stoke' and pics of a man with a bleeding head - this turned out to be mis-information which the local police had to counter

Also lots from Tommy Robinson and Turning point

None of the posts have been geo-located to where they claim and aren't even date stamped - would need to see that at minimum before ruling out fakery

So far, not impressed

VJBR · 04/08/2024 12:12

DuncinToffee · 04/08/2024 11:10

‘He will continue to work from wherever.’

He’s only been PM for 5 minutes. It doesn’t look good trying to control riots from a holiday destination.

ThisOldThang · 04/08/2024 12:15

I don't think two tier policing is a genuine reason for these riots, but I do think that two tier policing is a genuine problem in the UK.

It often looks, to me, that 'non-white' groups are treated with kid gloves because the authorities are terrified of full scale riots across the UK.

I, personally, think that a lot of people have the same perception of UK policing / government policy.

Let's hope this disorder and associated social media themes don't start to gain traction with the wider public. The problem could be that the harder the police response, the wider the perceived gap could become.

Efacsen · 04/08/2024 12:19

VJBR · 04/08/2024 12:12

He’s only been PM for 5 minutes. It doesn’t look good trying to control riots from a holiday destination.

It would indeed 'look bad' if was actually true - but it isn't true - so why do you keep repeating the un-truth?

Rainbowsponge · 04/08/2024 12:21

VerySadCase · 04/08/2024 12:10

The events last night were part of a national campaign of terror orchestrated by known far right extremists. You would expect a different response to criminality on this scale.

Were the Gaza protests terror as well? Wide scale, very organised, damage caused.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1rrzp1qwp1o.amp

Smashed window at the entrance of Barclays Bank with red paint sprayed around building

Barclays banks across UK targeted by pro-Palestine protesters - BBC News

Windows were smashed and rocks thrown in the co-ordinated protests by the group Palestine Action.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1rrzp1qwp1o.amp

midgetastic · 04/08/2024 12:22

Because what people have discovered is that people belief most the first thing they read

Especially if it boost thier ego in some way - Eg read lies about the person you didn't vote for is easy to believe the lies as proof you are right all along

Truth doesn't matter just who can make people feel valued and appreciated and great about themselves - because then you can use them and manipulate them

Whereas decent human beings don't want to manipulate people like that

Iamonsocialmediatoomuch · 04/08/2024 12:22

Dandeliontea123 · 04/08/2024 12:12

Downing Street have confirmed that Keir Starmer didn't have plans to go on holiday and is going to be working this week. So whatever rumours some of you have seen are wrong and should be reported on social media as misinformation.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1931867/Keir-Starmer-holiday-riots-COBRA

It seems like he will go on holiday sometime next week.

Chris Webb, MP for Blackpool South, insisted that the PM would be “continuing to work and monitor the situation" from holiday”, and promised: “we've got an excellent Deputy Prime Minister”.

Anonym00se · 04/08/2024 12:23

I have no idea what the answer is. I understand that a huge number of disenchanted people have the opinion that everyone from “boat people” to “illegal immigrants”, to legal immigrants, to all Muslims, to anyone who isn’t 100% white British is responsible for their woes. We’re being told that we need to listen to their concerns, which I don’t think is an unreasonable request.

But what then? Listen to them, and then offer proof that their ‘concerns’ are in the main, a load of fabricated bollocks? So we tell them “No, asylum seekers aren’t given £3000 a day to live on, it’s £49 a week”. Or that we taken a tiny proportion compared to most countries our size, or that most refugees DO actually only go as far as the next safe country, and they don’t all want to come to the UK. And the thousand and one other falsehoods that they parrot…

So we give them proof, and then what? Absolutely nothing, because they’re all radicalised and refuse to believe facts. There’s no reasoning with them.

Rainbowsponge · 04/08/2024 12:23

Barclays bank branches in England and Scotland have been covered in red paint and had windows smashed as part of protests by a pro-Palestine group.
Up to 20 buildings have been targeted, according to the group Palestine Action. It said the protests were carried out to "demand the bank divests from Israel's weapons trade and fossil fuels".
A spokesperson for Barclays said: "While we support the right to protest, we ask that campaigners do so in a way which respects our customers, colleagues and property.”
In Bristol, the windows of a city centre branch of Barclays Bank were smashed and red graffiti sprayed over the building.
^Meanwhile, in Edinburgh, rocks inscribed with the names of Palestinians killed in the conflict were thrown at a Barclays building, the protesters said.^
City of London police said three men, aged between 34 and 45, had been arrested in connection with criminal damage at the Barclays on Moorgate on Monday morning. It is one of several branches in the capital to have been targeted.
Among them were ones in St John’s Wood, north London, Croydon, Richmond, south-west London, and Peckham and Croydon in south London.
Meanwhile, branches in Stockport and Bury, both in Greater Manchester, and Preston, Lancashire, have been adorned in red paint and damaged.
The protesters also struck in Glasgow, Brighton, Exeter, Sheffield, Northampton, Birmingham and Solihull, Palestine Action said.
Shut the System, a recently launched underground climate movement, partnered with Palestine Action's underground division to launch the attacks, both activist groups confirmed.
According to the groups, targeted actions will continue until Barclays stops investing in certain companies.

midgetastic · 04/08/2024 12:24

The amount of damage caused / number of protestors was very different in the anti war protests than in the recent violence - at every football match there will be arrests but we don't treat them as violent events because they are a by product not the purpose of the event

It was pretty clear that the Gaza protests were aimed at peaceful protest and the recent violence is aimed at violence not genuine protest

midgetastic · 04/08/2024 12:25

How many police have been hospitalised by that red paint?

VerySadCase · 04/08/2024 12:27

The Gaza protests were overwhelmingly peaceful. There were small pockets of criminality and this was dealt with by the police as you would expect. I'm not sure of your point?

midgetastic · 04/08/2024 12:28

So not by red paint then?

Rainbowsponge · 04/08/2024 12:30

midgetastic · 04/08/2024 12:28

So not by red paint then?

You know you’re flailing when you reach for semantics. Smashed buildings, criminal damage, injured officers - are the pro Gaza movement terrorists, according to the definition here? If not; why not?

Rainbowsponge · 04/08/2024 12:31

(Note - of course they’re bloody not, but then I don’t think this weeks riots are terrorism either. Because I can think objectively)

midgetastic · 04/08/2024 12:31

"Minor " disturbances

Can you not see the differences

Not that I am happy with any violence but I do think this type of thing is being brought up to distract from the real horror of what is happening , to try and downplay the thuggery and to make out that the thugs are really hard done by

Anonym00se · 04/08/2024 12:32

Wind your neck in. There are a handful of wrong uns at every peaceful demo, and they’re arrested (and rightly so). You’re suggesting that’s equivalent with huge organised gangs of many hundreds of pissed up hooligans purposely setting out to cause mayhem, destroying property, pelting police officers with missiles and beating them up, and burning cars, vans and buildings?

It’s nowhere near the same thing.

Rainbowsponge · 04/08/2024 12:33

midgetastic · 04/08/2024 12:31

"Minor " disturbances

Can you not see the differences

Not that I am happy with any violence but I do think this type of thing is being brought up to distract from the real horror of what is happening , to try and downplay the thuggery and to make out that the thugs are really hard done by

And in reverse. 6 injured officers in 1 ‘small disturbance’ is quite some feat isn’t it? But again - doesn’t suit your narrative, so it’s ‘distraction’.