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Why are there suddenly loads of protests?

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Newsenmum · 03/08/2024 20:36

All these awful EDL protests- why are they suddenly happening? Whats kicking them all off? One in Bristol today is scary.

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DuncinToffee · 04/08/2024 11:26

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Right, twitter

VerySadCase · 04/08/2024 11:29

Midnightalready · 04/08/2024 11:24

Should the Swedes be protesting this?

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8330751/

This thread is about protests in the UK.

Arafina · 04/08/2024 11:30

mm81736 · 04/08/2024 11:10

Ypu do not have to agree with them, bit if you really do not understand why these people are rioting, then you are part of the problem!

I think most of us completely understand why they're rioting, it's because they're thugs with a psychotic hatred of anyone that they see as foreign, they've quite happily swallowed all the bullshit from Farage and co and decided that immigrants are the cause of everything that's wrong in this country, they all need to look in the mirror in my opinion and put their own house in order first

CassieMaddox · 04/08/2024 11:30

Oh JFC
I'm not relying on anything on Twatter. Yesterday someone on there used a picture of Brighton pavilion on a load of racist nonsense about mosques.

Twitter is part of the cause of this. Go get your content from actual journalists who properly check for misinformation before they publish stuff.

Midnightalready · 04/08/2024 11:31

DuncinToffee · 04/08/2024 11:26

Right, twitter

Seriously? You won't even look at the videos?

Midnightalready · 04/08/2024 11:32

VerySadCase · 04/08/2024 11:29

This thread is about protests in the UK.

Whenever I post this research, there is always this kind of evasion. You can only stick your head in the sand for so long.

VerySadCase · 04/08/2024 11:32

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Twitter is an absolute cesspit of disinformation at the moment. So many lies and fake videos.

Provide a verifiable source and I'll engage, but if you don't have one, I'm not willing to engage.

DuncinToffee · 04/08/2024 11:33

Twitter is where spread of the false information re the Southport suspect started with a fake Russian website, so no I won't watch unverified videos.

Midnightalready · 04/08/2024 11:33

VerySadCase · 04/08/2024 11:32

Twitter is an absolute cesspit of disinformation at the moment. So many lies and fake videos.

Provide a verifiable source and I'll engage, but if you don't have one, I'm not willing to engage.

No one could fake those videos.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 04/08/2024 11:38

Midnightalready · 04/08/2024 11:33

No one could fake those videos.

You can fake pretty much anything these days.

If the videos are genuine, then provide a credible, verifiable source. Otherwise it's just fake news like so much of the other shit that the far right is putting out at the moment.

VerySadCase · 04/08/2024 11:40

Midnightalready · 04/08/2024 11:32

Whenever I post this research, there is always this kind of evasion. You can only stick your head in the sand for so long.

No, people just want to stay on topic and focus on the issue under discussion. Not a load of irrelevant whataboutery that you seem to believe will support your agenda.

AndThatsItReally · 04/08/2024 11:41

Swithatlake · 04/08/2024 09:23

The vast majority are thick thugs though, and usually racist. These riots are nothing new, there have been riots in the UK for as long as I can remember. They're almost always in summer, and always stop when it rains.

Right now we have established that:

  • You're not a thick racist thug, (and for the avoidance of doubt, nor am I),
  • And that the summer heat is a trigger
  • And we can safely assume that all the aforementioned Thugs are not going to die off in the next decade or so
  • And, that being thick they're unlikely to see the light

How are we as a society going to stop this happening next time it's hot?
As I said I really really hope there are people who can figure this out.

DuncinToffee · 04/08/2024 11:42

CassieMaddox · 04/08/2024 11:30

Oh JFC
I'm not relying on anything on Twatter. Yesterday someone on there used a picture of Brighton pavilion on a load of racist nonsense about mosques.

Twitter is part of the cause of this. Go get your content from actual journalists who properly check for misinformation before they publish stuff.

And Lee Anderson sharing photos/video of people at a hotel claiming they were asylum seekers before finding out they were NHS workers on holiday

Midnightalready · 04/08/2024 11:45

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 04/08/2024 11:38

You can fake pretty much anything these days.

If the videos are genuine, then provide a credible, verifiable source. Otherwise it's just fake news like so much of the other shit that the far right is putting out at the moment.

You think you're being clever, but you're not. People post videos of what they are witnessing on the streets. The videos are very clearly not faked. The narrative that the protests are entirely made up by far right thugs is as far from the truth as the narrative that all gender critical women are right-wing bigots, a narrative which credible, verifiable sources are constantly happy to promote.

DuncinToffee · 04/08/2024 11:47

AndThatsItReally · 04/08/2024 11:41

Right now we have established that:

  • You're not a thick racist thug, (and for the avoidance of doubt, nor am I),
  • And that the summer heat is a trigger
  • And we can safely assume that all the aforementioned Thugs are not going to die off in the next decade or so
  • And, that being thick they're unlikely to see the light

How are we as a society going to stop this happening next time it's hot?
As I said I really really hope there are people who can figure this out.

Tackling misinformation on SM would be a good starting point.

The likes of tommy two names are free to spout hate from a beach lounger in Spain

CassieMaddox · 04/08/2024 11:47

VerySadCase · 04/08/2024 11:32

Twitter is an absolute cesspit of disinformation at the moment. So many lies and fake videos.

Provide a verifiable source and I'll engage, but if you don't have one, I'm not willing to engage.

Right? This reminds me of my teenage son being adamant there was a gang of violent feminists out there killing men, after seeing some targeted misinformation on Instagram.

A bit of research and verification can be very helpful 😂

CassieMaddox · 04/08/2024 11:48

Midnightalready · 04/08/2024 11:45

You think you're being clever, but you're not. People post videos of what they are witnessing on the streets. The videos are very clearly not faked. The narrative that the protests are entirely made up by far right thugs is as far from the truth as the narrative that all gender critical women are right-wing bigots, a narrative which credible, verifiable sources are constantly happy to promote.

Stop forced teaming GC women with far right racist thugs. It's infuriating.

wtfissummer · 04/08/2024 11:48

GingerPirate · 04/08/2024 09:49

Husband canceled the TV licence, but I think they using the recent murders of the children as an excuse...

Eh?

Midnightalready · 04/08/2024 11:49

CassieMaddox · 04/08/2024 11:48

Stop forced teaming GC women with far right racist thugs. It's infuriating.

You're going to cancel Graham Linehan then?

Rainbowsponge · 04/08/2024 11:49

CassieMaddox · 04/08/2024 11:48

Stop forced teaming GC women with far right racist thugs. It's infuriating.

The poster was doing the opposite, but you’ve revealed how irritated you get by being slandered as far right without substance so perhaps you should extend that courtesy to others?

Rainbowsponge · 04/08/2024 11:50

I don’t have twitter. What videos are these?

Thebaguette · 04/08/2024 11:51

CassieMaddox · 03/08/2024 23:34

This is a far right dog whistle and is bollocks.
Harehills was an in the moment response triggered by something that happened in the local community. It was not planned disorder carried out by a load of racists who organised and travelled in response to misinformation on twitter.

The fact its been stored up and whipped out now as some kind of justification is ridiculous.

Get of twitter and stop being an apologist for far right racist thugs

Both riots are bad for the people around and the country. People like you minimising one is part of the problem.

VerySadCase · 04/08/2024 11:52

Midnightalready · 04/08/2024 11:45

You think you're being clever, but you're not. People post videos of what they are witnessing on the streets. The videos are very clearly not faked. The narrative that the protests are entirely made up by far right thugs is as far from the truth as the narrative that all gender critical women are right-wing bigots, a narrative which credible, verifiable sources are constantly happy to promote.

OK, thanks for confirming that there are no credible sources willing to broadcast this shit. It is abundantly clear that this is just disinformation, but I'm sure you will carry on spreading it. I'm sure that MNHQ will delete your link as soon as they get a chance.

caringcarer · 04/08/2024 11:54

Bluebellsinthewind · 03/08/2024 22:01

I've just been reading about this on Sky app. It's scary, how is Keir going to get it all under control?

He didn't call a Cobra meeting to manage events. Instead he flew off on to his holiday leaving the country in chaos.

CassieMaddox · 04/08/2024 12:00

Thebaguette · 04/08/2024 11:51

Both riots are bad for the people around and the country. People like you minimising one is part of the problem.

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I'm minimising the absolute bullshit that is "two tier policing", not rioting.

Go and do some research on harehills away from Twatter, and then explain how that scenario is equivalent to a nationally orchestrated serious of riots, being facilitated online with people travelling in, possibly with input from hostile foreign states.

In my opinion one is bog standard disorder. One is more akin to terrorism. Different types of event require different responses.