Sex offender granted asylum?

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Given the other thread was deleted I'm assuming we aren't allowed to talk about the ongoing criminal incident/investigation.

However it's the top story on the bbc news that a convicted sex offender was granted asylum then has gone on to seemingly commit another violent offence.

Surely there should be a blanket ban on convicted sex offenders being granted asylum?

They seem mostly to be left behind ...

When I see boat loads of men arriving I always think of the women and kids left behind. What must their lives be like, has all the family money been used to get him here? If they get asylum do they send money back or just abandon them. I am sure some bring them over but I do wonder.

Exactly - but they don't make the journey because a) it's too arduous and b) it's too dangerous for women and girls, who will almost certainly be assaulted/raped en route. And that is why 77% of so-called asylum seekers in the UK are men. Are they the most vulnerable people in society? No, they're the least, but they are the most physically able to make the journey. And our asylum system rewards those who physically make it to the UK. It could be changed. We could do what Australia has done and say that anyone who 'jumps the queue' and turns up here illegally will never be eligible to claim asylum. We could insist that anyone who applies for asylum must do so in their country of origin or a safe third country, but we don't. If we did that, we'd get many more women and children applying and being given asylum. As it is, the vast majority of people who claim and get asylum in this country are young men. And that's a major reason why our asylum system is broken. There are many other reasons too.

I'm old enough (and lucky enough) to have spent quite a bit of time with an older generation who came to the UK from the Caribbean and what always struck me was their beautiful manners, the way they would dress impeccably (one used to put on a three piece suit and shoes you could see your face in to come and walk on a treadmill in a local healthy living centre) and they way they treated everyone with respect and kindness despite years of often not getting that much back.

I'm afraid that the attitudes and morals of the immigrants who make the headlines nowadays are often a world away from this.

You can do this but the law does not allow you to turn people away if they arrive a certain way, eg a boat

Aus can only use another location which has worked, in fact maybe the only country who has been so successful (that I know of anyway)

That’s it wrt international law though

Changes would come too late for some families. I am bloody terrified. I really do not see and end for these crimes soon. Some people are so brainwashed to defend the indefensible. It is sickening.

What concerns me is that every boat that rocks up illegally to the UK full of healthy, well dressed, strong young men who are far from vulnerable. Most of them have short hair and are clean shaven or have well tended facial hair.

You just think how the demographic of countries are quickly changing by huge surpluses of young men arriving in Western Europe, leaving behind the women where they have come from.

the government clearly support this trade by offering them so many incentives (free comfortable accommodation, the right to work) otherwise they’d try harder to stop it; all they do is offer meaningless platitudes. I guess it keeps wages low. Our safety is clearly of zero importance to them.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if he's already been found by the public & lying at the bottom of the Thames

The clash comes about because on one hand it’s easy to see how the system is used - this criminal shows that

Oth you won’t find everyone wants to remove process, appeals etc to allow some one to convert and stay, and other ways to do it

Traffickers sell this info on when making £100k profit per boat

He can't be deported now though, regardless of what he does, because of the very fact that he "converted". He is now apostate and therefore has an effective death sentence if he returns to Afghanistan. Clever eh? It's called Jesus for Visa's. Actually a recognized avenue for asylum. He will be with us forever.

I would like to know how Keir Starmer with a past as a Human Right lawyer propose to deal with this issue? London and other urban areas are mainly run by Labour already. Sadiq Khan is the London mayor. I look forward to see what they are asked in their electoral campaign about stopping crime and violence from individuals who should have been removed from this country.
For me it has become the most pressing issue on how I would vote in the next elections.

A man's first loyalty is usually to other men isn't it, they stick together to hold up the patriarchy and make sure they can work everything to the advantage of men.

What suckers the UK has become, so easily played.

Yep. And ha at Jesus for Visas

How gullible we are. Traffickers use it well

It’s not so much the priest, its the system we’ve got, you can’t disprove it or other stuff

Perhaps a silly question and maybe I’m missing something, but how exactly would the authorities in Afghanistan know whether someone “converted”?
Okay, in this particular case it has been mentioned in the media, but what about other cases?
Or is it the fact that he left the country (and moved to a Western one) that would cause him trouble?

Immigration status totally irrelevant imo, obviously he has MH issues.
Just seen a headline about Bibby Stockholm residents having appalling mh too.
We need to treat asylum seekers better not just refuse entry/ treat them badly.

Would you have him in your home? There’s a charity where you can set it up

I mean maybe not now as you’d be aiding a criminal but pre crime

How is it obvious that he had MH issues?

What are your qualifications, so you can state that so confidently?

Good priests try to see the best in people.

Those who decided to grant his third asylum application should have had a far higher index of suspicion about the sincerity of his conversion.

What were they thinking?

@Allwelcone why is immigration status irrelevant to you?

It's ironic that for many years we tried to change the regime in his country, to force our way of life to his people, to push our liberal way of thought. And what do we receive in return.
It's time to completely rethink our approach to the whole idea of illegal immigration. If you want to come here its fine, we welcome you but you need to work in a labour camp for the first 10 years, if after this time if you prove that you are a good citizen we will grant you full citizenship.

It is not uncommon for this to happen and should have been considered suspect. A few letters from a soppy edged religious figure should not override a proper assessment of credibility and risk.

Oh here we go.

If you're a sex offender, you don't get the privilege of moving to another country. Maybe the Taliban would actually sort him out properly is he tried that shit over here.

He's going to get a 10 year sentence, serve half and be back out.

Yes, quite.

The UK government is responsible for the safety of the UK people. We can’t take responsibility for the shitty behaviour of men from countries which allow shitty behaviour by men. Send them to Rwanda or home. Yes it’s removing the problem. I have no issue with that.