Shamima Begum lost her appeal....

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Just heard on BBC news a reporter said one reason is that she has shown zero remorse and spoke exactly like other extremists - still. Whilst it us unfortunate fir her...
I think it's the right decision given the circumstances....what are your thoughts?

The remorse things seems weird to me. I've no idea is she feels it or not, but you'd think she'd at least know (or be advised) to show it, to say the right things. The fact that she can't/won't despite what it could achieve for her makes me think there are still other forces at work.

She was a groomed child, but her behaviour since is very odd .

I think we have quite enough to worry about in this country without spending loads of time and money on Begum, who has shown by her actions that she is utterly opposed to freedom and democracy.

She is exactly where she wanted to be. Let her stay there.

A lot of the young men came back to the UK and are still here.

I completely agree.
She should never, ever be allowed back.

I think it’s wrong. She grew up here. She was radicalised here. She was allowed to get on a plane here.

She’s ours and we shouldn’t be palming her off on other countries.

It’s quite shameful and I can just imagine the outrage if Bangladesh tried to foist off someone on the UK if roles were reversed.

Exactly this. Other 15 year olds have murdered and are spending many years in prison. We’re they groomed too? Probably not but what is grooming? The school knew what was happening and so did the police. She was let down by society but must take responsibility for her actions.

Right decision

Absolutely disgusting. She was still officially a child when she was trafficked at 15 and lied to about a new dream world in Isis.
I think this is all about race and rascist, if she had been a 15 year old white middle class girl I think the outcome would be very different.
Of course she doesn't come across well, she's lost 3 babies I can't even begin to wonder how awful that must be, is shell shocked and probably has PTSD after an incredibly sheltered upbringing in a closed community followed by domestic violence in Isis and exposure to all kinds of horrors. I'm surprised she can talk at all.

Correct decision.

Absolute right call. She's a danger to this country and we need to take this stand with far more who are allowed to remain here.

I think it is the wrong decision, she is British and was a child at school at the time she went to Syria.

She is our problem.

I think it is the right decision, because she poses a risk and there is no benefit to allowing her to return.

Would her citizenship be removed if she was white and had for example an American parent? If she was born here i don't think her citizenship should be removed. That's a slippery slope.

Her being "weird and detached", maybe she's neurodivergent or something. Plus whether it was her own choice to go or not (as a child who has been groomed) she maybe suffering from ptsd or something especially as shes had children die.

I don't understand what makes her different from any other person suspected of terrorism? We must have loads of male terrorists in prison - why aren't we stripping all of them of their citizenship?

Right decision.

Our problem in your eyes, thankfully not in reality now.

I suspect the right decision although the thought of her now being adopted by extremists is concerning. Part of me would rather have her here under close monitoring,

Imagine another country stripping their citizen of their passport and telling the UK 'she's your problem now'.

The rage in the UK would induce conniptions and coronaries.

Really really uncomfortable with citizenship depending on being a good person - it's as though we only gave people defence lawyers if they were nice people.

As for her being weird - she has given birth to three children who have died as babies. How the fuck does anyone go through that without being deeply damaged and traumatised?

She's British, morally if not legally. She's our problem. We should not be able to just dump British people in foreign refugee camps whatever they do. She should be able to travel back to Britain and if required face prison here.

She was a 15 year old child groomed into being handed over to a man as a child bride. She saw and supported some abhorrent things over there but was conditioned into thinking they were acceptable in the name of religion. It was the right thing not to bring her back straight away, but why should the aid agencies be responsible for her; she is our problem, not theirs.

100% right decision. She should not be able to get any legal aid for any more appeals.
Majority don't want her here

it's also a message to first gen Brits: 'you're not fully British'.

Yes, this is what gets me. As a girl, her purpose was pretty much to give birth to the next generation of fighters. The men who we've allowed back will have committed far, far worse atrocities over there.
And the fact that, as PPs have said, why should she be another country's problem?

Right decision

• She may have left as a minor, but she committed many crimes while an adult in ISIS. She is accountable at the very least for her crimes done as an adult.
• She voluntarily left ISIS in its final collapse, because in her words it was “no longer a good time”
• She has no remorse for her crimes, or for ISIS genocide and enslavement of the Yazidi which she actively participated in.
• She has defended the Manchester bombing as fair game.
• She has defended slave rape and beheadings.
• She isn’t left stateless- she can go to Bangladesh but won’t because they’d probably give her the death penalty.
• She might get the death penalty or life in prison once tried in Syria.
• Internationally the agreed on principle is that criminals face justice in the country in which they committed their crimes- so it would actually be ‘disgusting’ and unjust for the U.K. to arrogantly whisk her back to the U.K. instead of her facing trial in Syria just like all the other female jihadists of British and other nationalities.
• I think it’s hilarious that some posters think everyone else in the refugee camp is a terrorist except Begum!
• Crying racism is pathetic, lots of white male & female ISIS jihadists have been treated exactly the same way- or worse.
• She is still a threat to the U.K. - e.g she said the Manchester bombing was justified, so what other terror attacks would she think would be too?

@Zipps, I don't want David Carrick here either. Can we strip him of his citizenship and deport him to France please?