Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 4

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www.lep.co.uk/news/crime/nicola-bulley-day-13-latest-updates-as-search-for-missing-mum-continues-4017066

Lancashire Evening Post has just posted this update.

TBH I think it’s obvious that mn hq haven’t been watching these threads for days now, if they had there’s no way the last two would have been left to stand.

But I suspect they’re leaving these threads here so as to keep all the speculation and gossip on one thread.

You could be right.

Or the Police may be trying to solve this using everything at their disposal (so their MO may be a carefully considered policy).

It won't be clear for some time - possibly never.

The police are quite good at not finding bodies in people's homes (the first time they look). There have been quite a few cases where bodies have been found in places which were previously searched by the police.

It's not tidal above the weir at St Michaels.

There’s current

Have you listened to Peter Faulding about how it's not tidal till you get beyond the weir and that even if she did make it to the weir, the water is that shallow that she would get stuck there?

I can only think of one example of this (and it was pretty egregious) - do you have a list?

But this was 45 years ago and they hadn't searched with the technology available for Nicola or they may have found him quite soon.

I often wonder what happened to Claudia Lawrence, she just disappeared, never to be found again. Sadly so many cases remain unsolved, even with months of investigative work.

This is what I don't get. He's speaking obvious common sense here as an expert, but the police just don't want to listen. The ONLY way the body is downstream of the weir is if somehow it got across it. The river flow is very low at the moment, hardly in full flood. If he thinks it wouldn't get across the weir I'd be inclined to agree with his years of experience literally looking for dead bodies in rivers. That's literally his job.

He works a much smaller area than the team from the police who were already there and he passed comment about the skill of their sonar operators. When asked after the first day whether his equipment was superior to the police equipment he didn't know and dodged the question.

And he most certainly did try to turn it into a 'willy waving' contest by continually harping on about his vast experience and criticising what the police team were doing.

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Peter Faulding from SGI on chatting with Nicola Bulley's partner, Paul, at the river today: "All the family are clearly distraught"

I know it's different as it is a loch not a river, but back in 2009 on a Scottish island, a boy went missing after a night out and then after failed attempts to find him by police divers and helicopters with infra red cameras who spent days searching it, his body was found under 3 months later in the loch. There was some talk, maybe just rumours, of possible foul play, however not according to police, yet no answers have ever been given as to why the divers never found him.

My point being, it has happened that a body has been missed. That said, the divers in the Nicola Bulley case have sonar equipment so seems unlikely they'd miss anything.

The disappearance is mysterious and, as a body hasn't been found, it's only natural for people to wonder what else might have happened.

However, hints about her friend, her partner, saving up and hiding out really do suggest that some people have just read too many of these trashy chick lit thrillers that appear everywhere nowadays.

They usually have a picture of a woman or a house on the front cover and end with someone having a double life, someone murdering someone because they want their life or someone hiding a dastardly secret.

This is real life though, not a trashy thriller.

@pigsinoodies But ultimately, only the police dive team was present during the initial search on the first day Nicola went missing. The question is, if Nicola entered the water in the area of the bench, why was she not found in that small area during that search?

SGI have only become involved much later when all kinds of variables could have come into play that means her current location can't be determined.

There is speculation that the father or a convicted murderer currently serving a prison sentence loved just streets away from Claudia Lawrence. Claudia's mother wanted him investigated.

Did NB usually have earplugs in for meetings, or was it on speaker?

My first thought when I heard a woman's phone and dog have been found by a bench, still connected to a call, was that she'd been snatched from behind mid-call. But then maybe the dog would've been more distressed, or even hurt.

The phone being on the floor is far from deliberate, is it.

Wish we could just ask the dog.

IMO Peter Falding has pulled out because he hasn’t emerged the hero.

On Sunday night he was full of it. Smugly suggesting how it would take hours to find her, if she wasn’t found yesterday then she wasn’t in there. And the less he has found, the more he has speculated to the press that he thinks x or y. He’s had to backtrack over so many things that it’s impossible to take him seriously.

It’s a known fact that a body can be submerged for a long time and take weeks or even months to emerge. Just because Peter Falding hasn’t found the body doesn’t mean that it’s not in there.

And if it emerges he’s going to look a bit of a Pratt.

Nicola’s friend was asked repeatedly by members of the community etc where they could donate money

Very possibly, but after received £100k and then shutting the appeal down, is anyone else wondering what she plans to do with the money?
Obviously it's hardly the most important issue here, but all the same it would be interesting to know

The gofundme only got around £400 before it was closed and Emma said she was refunding everyone

Like people are saying there are often unsolved cases where people go missing. What is odd with this case is the tiny window in between her being seen and then reported missing. The fact that they have found nothing is mind boggling. So I can see why the initial thought was that she was in the river as that is the obvious answer.

Love the high and mighty holier than thou posters here condeming anyone for even discussing this as if we're addicted to someone elses misery when in fact it is genuine concern and mystery over what happened to Nicola and if these people who are so much better than us hate this thread so much (which tbh is far more respectful than most other places) why are you here? Nosy?

They answer me in emails whenever I report a post.

It seems nuts that a human body can be missed on first searching of a dwelling.
Even a deceased mouse has a distinctive smell- and a human is way bigger.
Unless of course a body had been placed there afterwards.

The majority of the public never believed Nicola to be found in the river. Despite the Police repeatedly saying it is their belief which seems to be based upon lack of CCTV at 1 exit route. Unless of cause they are withholding a vital piece of evidence to prove otherwise, it just doesn’t fit with expert Peter’s 20 years of experience and findings. The notion she could have gone to sea seems to be impossible in Peter’s eyes as he clearly explains how at the weir the tide goes in/out and is very shallow over rocks - it would’ve revealed a body which couldn’t have gone out to sea.
If there’s just 1 exit out of the enclosed area, CCTV footage should be thoroughly examined in the weeks leading up to Nicola’s disappearance as IF it were an abduction then there must’ve been planning involved especially as such a small timeframe for it to happen.