Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 3

[ofwarren]

I couldn't see another post so thought I'd create one.

There is a police press conference this afternoon. I can't see a time for this but it's sounding like a routine one.

How can you possibly know this?

@DingDonkey how can you possibly know it's the opposite?

I suspect it will be brought to a resolution soon. Either she will be sadly found by the searchers, possibly in some under growth where she washed up, or she will make a phone call say she didn’t realise evry(ne was searching and had disappeared for her mental health and come back.

the whole potential financial trouble, the Ill advised 100k go fund me by the best friend who has been front and centre, the inability to find her with so many experts looking, experts who know how the water behaves, it’s speed, how bodies behave when drowned, ie immediately sink, how they travel etc, the phone still logged in, the placement of her stuff, no one seeing her in the location or in the water straight after, the police certainty of what happened, the searches of the banks by other experts and no sighting, the high tech equipment, sonars,helicopters with thermal imaging, the enormous media attention, it’s just a very unusual set of circumstances.

i really hope the police are able to resolve it soon as there are two little girls involved here.

@Allgoodthings1 what do you get out of posting that? Shock horror, there are more couples named Paul and Nicola

i take it you dont have a dog that you walk?
if you did you would realise that

No of course expert, you're right. I stay indoors at all times 🤣 fucking hell.

I think this should be the last of these threads. Posters are getting stranger and stranger.

I’m not sure that the general public have as much faith in the police as they once did, which might be adding to speculation and criticism.

The man who killed Libby Squires had been exposing himself to young women, in that area, for months (possibly even to Libby herself, but we will never know if that was the same man). He was also looking in windows. The reports weren’t followed up in a serious way and links between them weren’t made.

We also know about the history of the man who killed Sarah Everard.

So, the “what if?” element is frightening for women in the area.

There are parts of the story that don’t fit logically with falling in the river. The phone being on the floor is one of them.

Why bend down and place a phone on the floor when there is a bench so close? It seems more likely that the phone was dropped there. Why?

If she fell in, why wasn’t the dog muddy or wet or trying to get into the river?

If she is in the river, how do we know that someone didn’t push her in? The assumption that she fell means it wasn’t treated as a criminal investigation in the beginning, the public are allowed to wonder if that was a mistake and if more women are at risk because of it.

People are trying to fill in the blanks to make sense of it.

I want to continue to talk about it. I'm just going to ignore the derailers who don't want us to discuss it and want to tell people who live near there how to feel about it

Exactly this
Well explained, thank you

I take the point about crap
police however it's quite normal for the police to not reveal all details & to take time.

Dog could have been near to edge of water, NB quickly ran over to pull back from edge, phone falling to floor in process and slipped in as she got to the edge. Dog didn't go in and explains why dry and phone / lead nearby.

This disappearance is very mysterious, has a way of playing on your mind. I just hoping it gets resolved for the family

Yes, your comments are so helpful and insightful. I'm not being 'shitty' but I am calling out tone deaf people who will write anything about a deeply tragic situation.

Completely agree, I live in the area that Libby squire was murdered and it shook the whole city. No one felt safe at the time, as no one knew what had happened to her and then when we found out, although strongly suspected the culprit wasn't found for what felt like months. The police don't have public trust anymore which I think makes it worse. So I can imagine local women are feeling very vulnerable at the moment. I truly hope Nicola is found safe and well but in the mean time it's only natural in the current state of women's safety for women to want to be updated and feel safe

@puppacup People need the vacuum filling because then locals can get back to normal and be reassured her disappearance was the result of a tragic freak accident and not an actual crime involving a third party. The area is well used by local residents and I doubt many lone females will be eager to walk there until there is resolution.
Discussion of the case is natural. It's a huge case with lots of press coverage but agree that some of the intrusion into her life is ridiculous.

Who said they were? (More noble). Just that we can manage not to make thoughtless comments about a press conference about a missing woman clashing with the timing of the school run

It’s just said on the news not to speculate online about this case.

Springer Spaniels notoriously love the water, this one's might not have done I guess, I'd be surprised if dog wouldn't have gone in after her, and the water looks shallow near the bench where she was sitting.

The whole case is odd. It has crossed my mind that she staged her own disappearance but that doesn't make sense either because why would you take the dog out & put her in danger? You'd surely leave dog at home & just leave.

A 2 minute check would have told you that that's a different company, based in Teesside, with a completely different couple running it, with different names and different birthdates.

@ofwarren

There's no 'crazed nutter'.

I recognise the police in the UK have made mistakes in the past. But they are in most instances highly trained experts. They cannot yet fully resolve what's happened to Nicola. But they can say there isn't a 'crazed nutter' and they have.

They are not going to find her in the river now. I don’t believe she is in there.
Something is seriously amiss with this story, which is why it niggles and worries so many.
To me the phone left there, and harness looks set up. Almost like it was left there to be found.

There is no evidence either way! They admit that!
They have a hypothesis, nothing more.

The police can’t ‘know’ that it isn’t an ‘nutter’ or elaborate operation etc. Nothing has been ruled out.
The police have now started asking if she had a stalker etc clearly they are unsure now.

This is just bizarre. Like there’s some effort to stop people talking about this woman’s disappearance. So that’s it? No one knows where she is and the police want everyone to stop talking about her?

It’s a free country we can talk about this.
If anyone is interested in finding her, the best thing we can do is keep talking about it and keep the case in the public eye.

The only thing I can think is that when diving its pitch black even with lights, and they are practically blind down there, and maybe missed her.

I think this too. Unfortunately, people drown all the time and aren't the subject of so much media speculation and attention so I don't think people realise how difficult it is to find a body in water. Just look at all the cases where bodies of drowning victims are found weeks or months later, or in areas that have previously been searched.

The specialist diver hasn't helped matters in my opinion saying things like if she's in there, we'll find her quickly. I think he's genuinely trying to help and intentions are good but arrogant/over-confident remarks like that then put doubt in people's minds when she's not been found immediately.