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Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 3

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ofwarren · 07/02/2023 14:06

I couldn't see another post so thought I'd create one.

There is a police press conference this afternoon. I can't see a time for this but it's sounding like a routine one.

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Favouritefruits · 07/02/2023 19:23

@rumporolypolyofthebailey apart from the odd canoe there’s no ‘boats’ as such.

GrasstrackGirl · 07/02/2023 19:23

MeinKraft · 07/02/2023 19:20

A GFM was set up for £100,000 people went woah that's a high target and it was swiftly reduced to £50,000, then further reduced to £5,000 then suspended. The organiser, who calls herself a family friend but we don't know how close they actually are, then apologised and said the family didn't know it was going ahead.

I think it was a storm in a teacup. Someone trying to do a good thing who got a bit overexcited at the stage of putting a target in. To be fair these high profile cases generally do reach tens if not hundreds of thousands so I imagine she just has no experience of GFM other than hearing about Captain Tom etc and thought that was a totally usual target figure.

People online have been checking out the partner, apparently their business is in the process of folding and he quit his job yesterday, but I don't know how accurate that is and even if it is, I'm sure all those wheels had been set in motion long before any of this happened.

Thank you, yes it's well known about her partner's company, it's not the first time I believe.

MucozadeOnLucozade · 07/02/2023 19:23

I'm kind of hoping that she wasn't thinking straight and just put her phone down and walked off. When you're not in the right frame of mind you can do unpredictable things.

Unfortunately due to the huge police investigation and media presence, it's become too difficult for her to own up and return now.

I daresay her bank account has been checked, did she withdraw a large sum of money beforehand?

I do believe she'll just turn up some place.

dawngreen · 07/02/2023 19:24

Its a chat forum asking for peoples ideas/opinions on this case. I did not say that is what happened just that it might be a reason. In a perfect world she would turn up ok. But people are not perfect and people do bad stuff.

Blueflag22 · 07/02/2023 19:24

Nicknacky · 07/02/2023 19:02

Did you actually watch the press conference?

I'm not the poster quoted but I watched it and to be honest still doesn't make sense. So this question is valid. It's like they need to hold on to the river theory but also not ruling out stuff but will not say exactly what it is yet.

Bluebellwood129 · 07/02/2023 19:24

I think the police will have evidence we don't know about, they keep their cards close to their chest.

Unfortunately, I don't believe there's any concrete evidence to directly support their current hypothesis.

OnSecondThoughts · 07/02/2023 19:25

I think that if poor NB has been abducted or killed by a stranger, if abducted (with no intention to kill) then you have to keep the person hidden and imprisoned but fed, etc, (doable I suppose but not easy to keep up indefinitely?) or if (and I pray its not the case) murdered then you've got a body to dispose of so that it's not easily found, which again I'd imagine needs planning, tools, possibly an accomplice? Not easy for a lone suspect to do without being seen? So that makes me think these possibilities are hopefully not what has happened.

Mirabai · 07/02/2023 19:25

ColadhSamh · 07/02/2023 19:09

A person near where I am at the moment was seen entering a local river. Searches went on the body for almost 2 weeks
The body was found just under 2 weeks later on a beach 40 miles away. It had traveled down the river into the estuary and found near where the estuary becomes the Atlantic. So bodies do travel along rivers etc

Of course they do that’s why they’re searching a large expanse of river.

But how far and how fast is dependent on width, depth, current speed, tides etc.

The river is very slow moving at that part.

Nicknacky · 07/02/2023 19:25

JaneJeffer · 07/02/2023 19:23

Yes I did @Nicknacky hence my question.

So you heard her say they are investigating all other alternatives? That’s why they are asking for footage.

FarmGirl78 · 07/02/2023 19:28

Quveas · 07/02/2023 14:52

If she was on a Teams meeting then the app keeps the device "open" from logging in to the meeting until you log out. Or all versions of the software that I use do. What I found more odd was that there was a report that she was on mute and with her camera off the whole time of the meeting. Nowhere I know would allow that, and it seems rather odd that they did. You may as well not be in a meeting if you don't have any participation at all.

Her teams meeting could have been a training session or information being given to a group, rather than a discussion back and forth. Our teams meetings are mainly management telling us stuff and we just unmute when necessary if need to chip in. Some of us are at home, some in parked cars, I've even sat in Wetherspoons with a big glass of pepsi max before now, hence having my camera switched off. Just because your workplace doesn't allow this doesn't mean it's the same everywhere. Nothing necessarily suspicious about it.

Dymaxion · 07/02/2023 19:28

Have they checked the area directly under the weir ? I presume they have ?

BethFromThisIsUs · 07/02/2023 19:28

The theory about the police drawing out the water search to buy themselves time is interesting. It’s just baffling.

On what the sister said - I can’t believe a mum of two young kids would do a runner for any reason, and stay away when she hears of their distress etc. my girls are the same age. They are challenging and life is busy and intense and sometimes yeah it’s difficult and crap. There is simply not a chance I’d leave them behind. Not for all the peace and quiet or the most handsome man in the world. I also can imagine the absolute agony her girls must be in (I can barely nip to the shops without mine pestering me to come back).

From her Facebook she appears a normal, loving mum and I can’t believe she would take them to Centre Parks one month and then deliberately walk away from them the next. The cruelty would be unimaginable.

No. There has to be another explanation.

pigsinoodies · 07/02/2023 19:32

Dymaxion · 07/02/2023 19:28

Have they checked the area directly under the weir ? I presume they have ?

Yes, they were pictured there checking. A body would be more likely to be above the weir though, particularly if it's not floating and is being moved along the river bed.

dawngreen · 07/02/2023 19:34

I agree she would not leave her kids and dog. The river has a different under current near the weir. Maybe she had a medical issue that caused her to fall in the river. The police are trying to stay with the facts that they actually have.

madeyemoody · 07/02/2023 19:35

@BlueSphere in your post about PF slipping up and blurting out info of Nicola being in the water you said that he may have compromised the investigation, can you expand on that? I understand where you are coming from that it's the wrong way to word it but I can't see how it would compromise it (respectfully)

madeyemoody · 07/02/2023 19:36

@Bluebellwood129 can you please try to find your source re: the dog focusing on the gate, it's info like this that if not supported by fact causes wild speculation that then confuses people even more as to what's fact vs opinion

BlackFriday · 07/02/2023 19:38

Sorry if this has been mentioned already and if I'm being a bit dim here but why are they searching UPstream? Surely a body would float DOWNstream towards the sea?

MistletoeandBaileys · 07/02/2023 19:38

I’ve seen the videos too and to me there just seems to be more unanswered questions than anything else. I mean it isn’t a great height to fall from if that’s what happened. I always thought it was much more likely she slipped in given the day that was in it and the time of year it is.

But wouldn’t there be signs of someone slipping in on the riverbank if that’s what happened?

The area may have gates as main entrances but this was a local area to her. Usually locals to an area will know the other entrances in and out of places that others wouldn’t. I’ve lived rural my whole life and in parks and woods surrounding me I know the other gaps and areas to get in and out of.

The police are either sitting on vital information or they haven't any other ideas and are sticking with this theory. I hope she is found soon. It is so horrible for her family and friends.

OnSecondThoughts · 07/02/2023 19:38

(Just pondering) - person (assailant? accomplice?) approaches NB on bike/moped/scooter? Person gets off bike and stays with dog, NB cycles away to nearby waiting car? Any witness, as long as reasonably distant and not paying much attention, would only notice a cyclist approach and pass by. Possible?

JaneJeffer · 07/02/2023 19:40

@Nicknacky they said she's definitely in the river so why investigate anything else then? Why not say they have evidence of the point of entry?

madeyemoody · 07/02/2023 19:40

@TimeForMeToF1y 100% agree about your opinion on PF. He has said some whoppers in the past week that are tactless and only serve to discredit the people who have been searching for her.

He changed his tune when asked for help though..

itsnote · 07/02/2023 19:43

"Sorry if this has been mentioned already and if I'm being a bit dim here but why are they searching UPstream? Surely a body would float DOWNstream towards the sea?"

Tides ebb and flow and nobody knows exactly where she might've fallen in.

Coffeepot72 · 07/02/2023 19:43

Just my thoughts:

I think the police were too quick/hasty to announce no third party involvement.

And the diver expert on breakfast tv this morning seemed to speak a lot of sense, there is definitely something not right about all this.

Plitvice · 07/02/2023 19:43

It is in the interests of the police to carry on with that one theory because if they achieve absolutely nothing then they can still say they were seen to have done their best which erases some of the blame. I bet they don't have the budget or expertise to pursue the abduction theory for years and years and will cite lack of evidence either way.

Nicknacky · 07/02/2023 19:44

JaneJeffer · 07/02/2023 19:40

@Nicknacky they said she's definitely in the river so why investigate anything else then? Why not say they have evidence of the point of entry?

They haven’t said she definitely in the river. They say that’s what they believe however are keeping an open mind.

To give you an example, I was on a missing person enquiry which turned out to be a murder. We knew what date she died on yet we had a “witness” that reported seeing her after that date. We still investigated, did door to door, CCTV enquiries even though we KNEW he must have been mistaken. Because you assume nothing in an enquiry and if you can find evidence that proves or disproves a line on enquiry then you do that.

So it’s normal and expected that all enquiries are followed up.

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