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Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 3

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ofwarren · 07/02/2023 14:06

I couldn't see another post so thought I'd create one.

There is a police press conference this afternoon. I can't see a time for this but it's sounding like a routine one.

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Goldpaw · 07/02/2023 18:34

Return2thebasic · 07/02/2023 18:11

They said in the beginning (excuse me if I'm wrong), they don't have other evidence of foul play , so the most likely cause is falling in water!!!

Which they don't have evidence of either.

TimeForMeToF1y · 07/02/2023 18:34

madeyemoody · 07/02/2023 18:30

@TimeForMeToF1y Peter Faulding has said a fit and strong swimmer as she was should have been able to move with them on as they were light synthetic material. wool is one material that's heavy when wet.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/expert-dive-squad-say-missing-29142671.amp

You'll forgive me if I don't take everything he says as gospel, comon sense tells us that entering a muddy silt bottomed river unexpectedly on a cold day fully clothed is an unpredictable situation

He can't possibly know a person would start swimming

Bluekerfuffle · 07/02/2023 18:34

TokyoSushi · 07/02/2023 18:11

Interesting, I think the opposite, the Police don't have a clue what's happened and are clutching at straws.

I don’t think they have much of a clue either. They have more or less said that by saying the “most likely” scenario is her being in the river, (which it does seem to be to me), but they are still open to other scenarios and looking into them. No one has a clue as there doesn’t seem to be any evidence or anything.

pigsinoodies · 07/02/2023 18:36

Sparkleshine21 · 07/02/2023 18:25

I’m local to this. I’ve been down to this group of fields and river many times on picnics with my daughter (don’t see that happening again). The fields are surrounded by rural houses, some you would need to cross the river or climb over a small fence to get to them but then it’s land after that towards preston. There are a range of directions she could have gone that don’t involve coming back out of the gate onto the main road.

There's no way out of the immediate area without either crossing the river or emerging onto the main road.

So are you suggesting that she crossed the river and is now wandering towards Preston across the fields? Or are you suggesting that she was abducted and carried over fences by someone who lives in the area bounded by the river and the main road?

TimeForMeToF1y · 07/02/2023 18:36

Distractoskort · 07/02/2023 18:34

If they have the phone and she’s in the river can’t they keep synching the Fitbit while searching the river; if the Fitbit is waterproof…

I dont have a fitbit but from what I've read by people who know about them that isn't possible, thats just not how they work

Togoodtobeforgotten · 07/02/2023 18:37

Nicknacky · 07/02/2023 18:32

I had a dog attend a crime scene I was at a few nights ago, dog came about 60 mins after the suspect ran from the scene however couldn’t pick up a scent. It’s not an exact science unfortunately.

Ah right ok thanks for that in one way it is good to know because it does open up to the possibility that she did walk away.

AnotherSpare · 07/02/2023 18:37

Plitvice · 07/02/2023 14:47

I think the communication between the police and media hasn't been good enough. For example, they could have said upfront that the couple mostly worked from home and have cctv so her partner is completely eliminated as a suspect. It would have prevented that speculation. It took for her friend to state even facts in a tabloid to get the information across to the public.

Or - and this is clearly a radical idea to a lot of you - people could just have the basic common decency to not speculate on social media about things that are really none of their business.
It's not the police's job to ensure every tiny detail is available to the general public. The police will have known very early on that they both work from home and have cctv. They do not need to state to the media or you or anyone else that someone is not a suspect. People should just have the plain common sense and integrity to not publicly accuse others of a crime with no evidence whatsoever.

Goldpaw · 07/02/2023 18:37

Bluebellwood129 · 07/02/2023 18:22

They said that the National Crime Agency have reviewed it didn't they?

What does that actually mean and where is the evidence for this? Without more substance, it's little more than a throw away line in a press conference clearly designed to try and claw back public confidence. Was Sally Riley doubting her own ability to lead the investigation?

I think the NCA has reviewed the procedures and found that Lancashire Constabulary have followed procedures.

However, if the team are convinced she went into the river, then that has a big effect on how rigourously aspects outside that theory are pursued

BlueSphere · 07/02/2023 18:39

If they had evidence she went in the water, what possible reasons could there be for withholding this from the public?

Nicknacky · 07/02/2023 18:39

BlueSphere · 07/02/2023 18:39

If they had evidence she went in the water, what possible reasons could there be for withholding this from the public?

That’s it’s none of the public’s business.

Return2thebasic · 07/02/2023 18:40

Goldpaw · 07/02/2023 18:34

Which they don't have evidence of either.

Yes, but it needed to start somewhere to rule out, right? It did appear to be the low hanging outcome. Just not sure where they'd head next after underwater search in vain.

Cocobutt · 07/02/2023 18:41

It's frustrating they think she went into the river but they've no evidence.

I think the police usually know more than what they let on.

They would have not found any evidence of a struggle or any witnesses.
And she left her phone on a bench on a work call and the dog was still there.

I can’t see any other explanation than her falling into the water.

The only other explanation would have been an abduction but there would have been lots of evidence pointing to that, which so far there isn’t and I’m sure they looked into it to try and rule it out.

I highly doubt she is alive but I just hope the family know what happened and find her body so they can get closure.

TokyoSushi · 07/02/2023 18:41

Today the police officer seemed to be stressing that there's a possibility/likelihood that she 'has been' in the river. If that's the case, where is she now and how did she get out? (Gazillion dollar question I know!)

JaneJeffer · 07/02/2023 18:42

But @Nicknacky it would stop all the speculation which is upsetting her family

rumporolypolyofthebailey · 07/02/2023 18:42

Question for someone local, is there any river traffic there? Or does the weir prohibit boats?

Nicknacky · 07/02/2023 18:43

JaneJeffer · 07/02/2023 18:42

But @Nicknacky it would stop all the speculation which is upsetting her family

Would it really stop the speculation? I very much doubt that, but the general public don’t need to know the details and are capable of stoping the speculation by not speculating.

Idratherbepaddleboarding · 07/02/2023 18:43

LadyHarmby · 07/02/2023 18:06

I think the police have some information that they haven’t made public that leads to them to believe she went in the water. She said as much in the press conference and also said Peter Faulding wasn’t privy to all information either.

They do, but the public don’t have a right to that information or any information that won’t directly help with the investigation eg the timings of events and the clothes she was wearing. They have a duty to protect the investigation, family and Nicola herself.

countrygirl99 · 07/02/2023 18:44

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Took 4 weeks with the person I knew. They fell in a river this time of year. The cold slows decomposition down.

Sparkleshine21 · 07/02/2023 18:44

@pigsinoodies im not suggesting anything. Literally just giving facts as someone who has been to and walked around the area many times. Which you have then repeated back to me.

WhoNeedsSleepNotISaidMyBody · 07/02/2023 18:44

Togoodtobeforgotten · 07/02/2023 16:43

He also said he would find her within an hour.

IF she was in the river & IF he could do it the way he intended, unrestricted.

ofwarren · 07/02/2023 18:45

rumporolypolyofthebailey · 07/02/2023 18:42

Question for someone local, is there any river traffic there? Or does the weir prohibit boats?

I've never ever seen a boat up there. I don't think they can cross the weir

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Bluebellwood129 · 07/02/2023 18:45

@Goldpaw Yes - essentially following correct procedure for a single hypothesis approach, which is what many people are finding frustrating.

confounded234 · 07/02/2023 18:46

If the police have evidence that she is in the water, yet are withholding it from the public, then fair enough. But why then withold it from the family if no criminality is expected in this case? Isnt that just cruel?

Or given what we know so far, isn't it most likely that the police have no evidence still that she was in the water.

BlueSphere · 07/02/2023 18:47

Idratherbepaddleboarding · 07/02/2023 18:43

They do, but the public don’t have a right to that information or any information that won’t directly help with the investigation eg the timings of events and the clothes she was wearing. They have a duty to protect the investigation, family and Nicola herself.

Then Peter Faulding's slip up about NB "in the water" will have possibly compromised the investigations. I don't think the Daily Mail are in the habit of deleting or editing video footage after they have published it on their website. way too much hassle. They were told to delete the footage where Peter Faulding blurted this little detail out.

Nicknacky · 07/02/2023 18:47

confounded234 · 07/02/2023 18:46

If the police have evidence that she is in the water, yet are withholding it from the public, then fair enough. But why then withold it from the family if no criminality is expected in this case? Isnt that just cruel?

Or given what we know so far, isn't it most likely that the police have no evidence still that she was in the water.

Where have you heard that they haven’t told the family what they know?

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