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ofwarren · 2023-02-07T14:06:46+00:00

I couldn't see another post so thought I'd create one. There is a police press conference this afternoon. I can't see a time for this but it's sounding like a routine one.

AmillionReasons · 07/02/2023 18:02

If they finish the search of the river and still don't find her, will their main working theory change? I think it is appalling they didn't tape off the area, even if they did think it was thoroughly examined.

Unsure33 · 07/02/2023 18:02

winterpastasalad · 07/02/2023 16:18

The expert diver man was interviewed this morning and said this is the most baffling case he's ever seen. He said in a drowning the body falls to the riverbed and is pushed along by the current, and only surfaces once the decomposition sets in. He said that he examined the current (which was practically non existant) so in his opinion if she fell in she should be more or less in the same spot.

I am glad they are searching upstream today , because she could have been spitting in the bench , the dog was running around and for some reason she thought it was in trouble so she rushed upstream and then tripped ? And fell in . Or had a medical episode. My FIL a was walking his dog once and ended up in the canal after a medical incident . He could not even remember how he got in there , the sides were steep and he could not pull himself out . He was lucky there were people passing who got him out because his clothes were pulling him down .his dog ran off further up , but luckily came back when called .

Hawkins002 · 07/02/2023 18:02

ofwarren · 07/02/2023 17:57

Peter Faulding on GB News
'Normally when a person drowns they go straight to the bottom. That's in my 20-odd years of experience dealing with drowning victims.'

Forensic expert, Peter Faulding, says it is 'impossible' that missing Nicola Bulley has been washed out to sea.

twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1623016479984693253?t=Wj5zgqr_S-Z3zaC_xScpDQ&s=19

And unless I'm mistaken, don't bodies begin go float once the body starts to decompose ?

Nicknacky · 07/02/2023 18:02

Return2thebasic · 07/02/2023 18:00

To satisfy my own curiosity, TO THOSE WHO THINK THE POLICE AREN'T DOING ENOUGH AND HAVE BEEN INCOMPETENT, What do you suggest they should do that they haven't done? Actions wise?

And also, for the posters who think the police aren’t being open minded then why do you think that when the Super has detailed all other enquiries that are ongoing and the use of 40 detectives who clearly aren’t involved in the physical search?

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ofwarren · 07/02/2023 18:03

Hawkins002 · 07/02/2023 18:02

And unless I'm mistaken, don't bodies begin go float once the body starts to decompose ?

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Yes, unless trapped under debris

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Hawkins002 · 07/02/2023 18:03

ofwarren · 07/02/2023 17:57

Peter Faulding on GB News
'Normally when a person drowns they go straight to the bottom. That's in my 20-odd years of experience dealing with drowning victims.'

Forensic expert, Peter Faulding, says it is 'impossible' that missing Nicola Bulley has been washed out to sea.

twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1623016479984693253?t=Wj5zgqr_S-Z3zaC_xScpDQ&s=19

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A. Dead bodies in the water usually tend to sink at first, but later they tend to float, as the post-mortem changes brought on by putrefaction produce enough gases to make them buoyant

Nicknacky · 07/02/2023 18:03

AmillionReasons · 07/02/2023 18:02

If they finish the search of the river and still don't find her, will their main working theory change? I think it is appalling they didn't tape off the area, even if they did think it was thoroughly examined.

Tape it off for what reason if it’s already been examined with nothing found?

Auntyofnieces · 07/02/2023 18:03

This is such a horrible thing to happen, I hope for everyone who cares about Nicola that some progress is made soon. I'm sure that everyone involved officially is giving 100% and using their own indivividual expertise to find her.

Goldpaw · 07/02/2023 18:03

It's frustrating they think she went into the river but they've no evidence.

The incorrect road names and descriptions of what she was wearing doesn't show much attention to detail, does it?

No wonder people think the police have missed things.

Unsure33 · 07/02/2023 18:04

AmillionReasons · 07/02/2023 18:02

If they finish the search of the river and still don't find her, will their main working theory change? I think it is appalling they didn't tape off the area, even if they did think it was thoroughly examined.

But to be fair there was no sign of a crime . No blood etc , and even if she had been attacked it might not have been at that point . If someone had heard screams or the dog barking , or seen someone running etc it would be different.

Eatentoomanyroses · 07/02/2023 18:04

@madeyemoody you’re right. It does seem very confusing. I keep following these threads because I can’t make sense of the reporting on it. We’re fairly local and it’s not a ghoulish interest. I just feel for those two little girls. Keep thinking of them waking up every morning to no mother and no answers.

AmillionReasons · 07/02/2023 18:04

@Nicknacky incase they missed anything.

RubyPip · 07/02/2023 18:04

It's got to be accepted sadly that the police know a lot more than they're saying, and they seem certain she has drowned, and the search is for her body.

The poor family. 😢

Goldpaw · 07/02/2023 18:05

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Colder water would mean the process taking longer. So, different timings in August than in January, for instance.

Togoodtobeforgotten · 07/02/2023 18:05

SafferUpNorth · 07/02/2023 17:59

What a frustrating press conference. It seems the investigation is no further forward - how desperately sad for the family. That Super Riley was going my head in, repeating over and over that they're "keeping an open mind" and "open to all possibilities" when in fact it's clear they've been totally fixated on one possible theory.

How can they be so sure there was no third party involvement? Why had they previously ruled it out so categorically? They have no evidence for that, they say. Nor is there any evidence she drowned accidentally. None.

The fact that they got the description of her clothing so wrong and only released CCTV shots of her from that morning DAYS later meant that vital small details might have been missed - maybe a sighting of her with someone. I mean, if the police continually repeat the river theory and keep saying no-one else is involved, the whole thing descends into groupthink. Someone might have glimpsed something fleetingly and not realise it's important.

She said they are open to anything just because they are not all over telly saying they are looking for someone does not mean that they are not looking at scenarios like that, if they were looking at something like that then if they did splash it all over the telly or papers it could scare the perpetrator off.

LadyHarmby · 07/02/2023 18:06

I think the police have some information that they haven’t made public that leads to them to believe she went in the water. She said as much in the press conference and also said Peter Faulding wasn’t privy to all information either.

Bluebellwood129 · 07/02/2023 18:07

RubyPip · 07/02/2023 18:04

It's got to be accepted sadly that the police know a lot more than they're saying, and they seem certain she has drowned, and the search is for her body.

The poor family. 😢

Why does it have to be accepted when numerous experts are challenging the main hypothesis they are pursuing? The police have made critical errors too many times previously.

winterpastasalad · 07/02/2023 18:07

If the sister has asked her to come home if she needed space then that puts a very different spin on things.

AmillionReasons · 07/02/2023 18:07

'I think the sister asking Nicola to return if she just needed space is very telling.'

Why? It is common when people go missing for the family to say along the lines of: if you're watching this come back, if anyone has got you..' The sister would I imagine be hoping she has run away as that means she is alive.

Number4224 · 07/02/2023 18:07

If she was in the water you’d think they would have found a shoe or keys or something.

Laiste · 07/02/2023 18:07

Re: her clothes,

In the doorbell footage her 'wellies' look more like suede ankle boots. They have tassels on them at the back by the looks of it.

confounded234 · 07/02/2023 18:07

LadyHarmby · 07/02/2023 18:06

I think the police have some information that they haven’t made public that leads to them to believe she went in the water. She said as much in the press conference and also said Peter Faulding wasn’t privy to all information either.

If that's the case, and it's not a crime, then why not just release that info? They have literally said they are not expecting any criminality in this case at the presser. Why hold anything back? Anything could help find her or the body?

BlueSphere · 07/02/2023 18:08

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I am rather wondering if they have evidence that she went in, the diving expert blurted out that she went in and is confused that he can't find her if she has presumably drowned. Also this not related to national security. I think it's very off that the daily Mail made the effort to cut edit the video and cut this bit out.

Laiste · 07/02/2023 18:08

Maybe she changed into wellies at her car?
Just thinking out loud.