Page 12 | Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 3

ofwarren · 2023-02-07T14:06:46+00:00

I couldn't see another post so thought I'd create one. There is a police press conference this afternoon. I can't see a time for this but it's sounding like a routine one.

Bluebellwood129 · 07/02/2023 17:16

justgettingthroughtheday · 07/02/2023 17:14

Let's be honest if the police can't even get the name of the road the path leads to correct how can we have much confidence in them?

I think SI Riley has appeared woefully out of her depth at times throughout this.

oakleaffy · 07/02/2023 17:17

justgettingthroughtheday · 07/02/2023 17:14

Let's be honest if the police can't even get the name of the road the path leads to correct how can we have much confidence in them?

Absolutely.
And Nicola’s clothing.
Wasn’t an ankle length gilet, but a knee length padded coat.

I think they have blundered , by being obsessed with the “ Falling in” to river scenario.

AIBUYesofCourse · 07/02/2023 17:17

@Cocobutt Didn't you read the explanation? The phone was on mute. People can be muted on group calls.

Return2thebasic · 07/02/2023 17:18

AIBUYesofCourse · 07/02/2023 17:09

So how is it that other police officers, mainly retired (there is one from Dorset at the moment speaking) saying that the investigation ought to be given to someone else as they have been shown to be incompetent.

As just a member of the public, I am just astounded the police ruled out foul play and focused on the river.

They say they are considering all options but it has never come across as that.

They appear to have latched onto her falling in the river and that's that.

Of course, there could still be foul play and she ended up in the river 'afterwards'.

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They never said they stopped exploring other possibilities. I don't know if it really needs to be escalated to house search sort of level. But to do that, I think it's rightful that they need to rule out the most obvious cause.

I agree that they probably need to have someone else in the force to join in the team to provide fresh pairs of eyes, but I do think they've done a whole lots to be so sure the most likely happened is that she fell in water.

It's really easy for people to criticise after no result yielded after the efforts. For people who are doing the work, especially with the pressure on this case, I do believe they've done their best based on the usual path (at that stage).

Togoodtobeforgotten · 07/02/2023 17:18

justgettingthroughtheday · 07/02/2023 17:14

Let's be honest if the police can't even get the name of the road the path leads to correct how can we have much confidence in them?

I think you should giver her a break it can't be an easy job then she has all the speculation as well as tossers breaking Into houses on top of that accusations from the public, I can imagine she's not had an easy ride over the last few weeks did you not see the bags under her eyes?

DesertRose64 · 07/02/2023 17:19

madeyemoody · 07/02/2023 17:11

I get bad narc vibes from this Peter Faulding, he did nothing but slate the Lancs Police when his offer was turned down, then when the family asked for him he is singing their praises. Before he was asked to help he stupidly posted vile comments about the police wasting their time with their gear, that their equipment couldn't find a body even if it was there. He went on to say that if he was there he would find her in a day...well Pete it's day two and here we are...

He's horrid. Every few hours he's in front of the cameras instead of searching.

He is the kind of attention seeker that when no body is found he will point blank say it couldn't be him failing and purposely fuel more conspiracy theories.

I agree.

Idratherbepaddleboarding · 07/02/2023 17:19

Cocobutt · 07/02/2023 17:16

What I don’t understand is I’ve read that her phone was connected to a work call.

So if she was on the phone to someone surely they would have heard something like a scream or a splash or her saying can you hold on a second I need to…

The theory is that she went to retrieve a ball from the water or something and then fell in/dog pushed her - but why would you leave the phone on the bench if that was the case. And if you were going to put it down for a minute you would have told the person on the other end.

You haven’t read very much then because it’s very well documented that she was on a Teams call with her camera and microphone off and wouldn’t have been expected to contribute.

KitesFlyHigh · 07/02/2023 17:19

I wonder how many people knew that the one CCTV camera didn’t work, who they were. Or did no one know and they just found it not working?

AIBUYesofCourse · 07/02/2023 17:19

oakleaffy · 07/02/2023 17:17

Absolutely.
And Nicola’s clothing.
Wasn’t an ankle length gilet, but a knee length padded coat.

I think they have blundered , by being obsessed with the “ Falling in” to river scenario.

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Yes and especially as they used her clothing as a reason why she may have been pulled down in the water owing to the heavy coats. Her coat looks unfastened on the photos and, even in a moment of panic, if you are a good swimmer, you may have been able to get your arms out of the sleeves.

AIBUYesofCourse · 07/02/2023 17:20

Togoodtobeforgotten · 07/02/2023 17:18

I think you should giver her a break it can't be an easy job then she has all the speculation as well as tossers breaking Into houses on top of that accusations from the public, I can imagine she's not had an easy ride over the last few weeks did you not see the bags under her eyes?

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This is her JOB FGS!

If she can't stand the heat...you know the rest.

pigsinoodies · 07/02/2023 17:21

justgettingthroughtheday · 07/02/2023 17:15

@pigsinoodies there are other properties backing onto those fields not just the caravan parks. It would not surprise me at all if one or more had an unofficial entrance into their back garden!

I can't see any with direct access to the two fields. They're 2 fields away and behind (apparently) locked gates. I'm sure the police have noticed their existence anyway.

Untitledsquatboulder · 07/02/2023 17:21

her dog I presume would have barked or howled at its owner being hurt

Very much depends on the dog. When I was attacked my dog stood around looking bemused and feebly wagging her tail, even when I screamed (luckily he ran off at that point). Lovely dog, zero protective instinct.

fairydust11 · 07/02/2023 17:22

I don’t know why the character assassination of Peter Faulding by some posts, at the end of the day he’s there - for free - to help the family prove or disprove the police current working hypothesis…
Yes, he’s on the news with lots of his theories, but at least he’s offered his services & is actually helping.
Personally I think the help from the likes of him and the NCA can only be a good thing.

confounded234 · 07/02/2023 17:24

fairydust11 · 07/02/2023 17:22

I don’t know why the character assassination of Peter Faulding by some posts, at the end of the day he’s there - for free - to help the family prove or disprove the police current working hypothesis…
Yes, he’s on the news with lots of his theories, but at least he’s offered his services & is actually helping.
Personally I think the help from the likes of him and the NCA can only be a good thing.

I very much agree.

Bluebellwood129 · 07/02/2023 17:24

confounded234 · 07/02/2023 17:24

I very much agree.

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I also agree. Self-promotion etc aside, the work he's doing with his team can only be helpful.

pigsinoodies · 07/02/2023 17:26

fairydust11 · 07/02/2023 17:22

I don’t know why the character assassination of Peter Faulding by some posts, at the end of the day he’s there - for free - to help the family prove or disprove the police current working hypothesis…
Yes, he’s on the news with lots of his theories, but at least he’s offered his services & is actually helping.
Personally I think the help from the likes of him and the NCA can only be a good thing.

No one's saying that his company's help isn't a good thing.

It's his comments, theories and 'gut instincts' which aren't helpful.

Togoodtobeforgotten · 07/02/2023 17:26

fairydust11 · 07/02/2023 17:22

I don’t know why the character assassination of Peter Faulding by some posts, at the end of the day he’s there - for free - to help the family prove or disprove the police current working hypothesis…
Yes, he’s on the news with lots of his theories, but at least he’s offered his services & is actually helping.
Personally I think the help from the likes of him and the NCA can only be a good thing.

It is and it's a fresh pair of eyes it's just the way he contradicts Lancashire police and especially on TV it's just not very professional. If he disagrees with what they are saying then he should keep quiet untill he knows the full facts and he's searched all the river and found nothing.

oakleaffy · 07/02/2023 17:28

fairydust11 · 07/02/2023 17:22

I don’t know why the character assassination of Peter Faulding by some posts, at the end of the day he’s there - for free - to help the family prove or disprove the police current working hypothesis…
Yes, he’s on the news with lots of his theories, but at least he’s offered his services & is actually helping.
Personally I think the help from the likes of him and the NCA can only be a good thing.

Same here.
His book is professionally published, not self-published, people saying he's involved to 'promote his book' is nonsense.. the book would have been written last year at least.
He has reams of experience, and is working for free.
Seems pretty knowledgeable.

Nicknacky · 07/02/2023 17:29

I have an issue with him having asked her partner if Nicola has any enemies or stalkers, that’s not his place to ask that. He needs to stay in his lane.

AIBUYesofCourse · 07/02/2023 17:29

fairydust11 · 07/02/2023 17:22

I don’t know why the character assassination of Peter Faulding by some posts, at the end of the day he’s there - for free - to help the family prove or disprove the police current working hypothesis…
Yes, he’s on the news with lots of his theories, but at least he’s offered his services & is actually helping.
Personally I think the help from the likes of him and the NCA can only be a good thing.

I can see his point,
If he offered to help and the police turned him down- more fools them.

Now he is on the case and yes, he can comment. He's doing this free.

They did 3-4 miles of river yesterday and he says the rest will take another 2-3 days ( the river is 12 miles to the sea.)

The reason he is puzzled is simply because in all his years as a diver he'd have expected to find a body now.

The reason he hasn't is (IMO) that there isn't one.

There are no signs of slipping.

Her dog didn't stay with her (which is what dogs usually do)

she had no reason presumably to go so close to the river bank, as an experienced walker who's done that walk thousands of times.

Her dog was dry. There was no ball to retrieve.

No one heard any shouting or screaming.

Why would she put her phone neatly on a bench if she was walking away from it?

If she fell in by the bench- let's just say she did leave her phone on the bench- then she'd have been found in the water near the bench.

confounded234 · 07/02/2023 17:30

Nicknacky · 07/02/2023 17:29

I have an issue with him having asked her partner if Nicola has any enemies or stalkers, that’s not his place to ask that. He needs to stay in his lane.

I do agree that isn't his business.

oakleaffy · 07/02/2023 17:30

Nicknacky · 07/02/2023 17:29

I have an issue with him having asked her partner if Nicola has any enemies or stalkers, that’s not his place to ask that. He needs to stay in his lane.

Why should he ''stay in his lane'' if the local Plod are too dozy too be on the ball?
These are exactly the sort of questions that need to be asked!

notimagain · 07/02/2023 17:31

@AIBUYesofCourse

So how is it that other police officers, mainly retired (there is one from Dorset at the moment speaking) saying that the investigation ought to be given to someone else as they have been shown to be incompetent.

Can't speak for the police but I do know when investigations into any incident or accident in many industries become major news items then IMO it pays to be slightly sceptical of the motives of any former, but now retired, ex-senior persons who suddenly pop up and starts saying something slightly or very controversial for the benefit of the MSM.

There's no doubt some of them can be well meaning, and yes there's a chance they are making a valid point but OTOH they might just be tempted by the idea of 15 minutes of fame and the possibility of a small top up to the pension.

Nicknacky · 07/02/2023 17:31

oakleaffy · 07/02/2023 17:30

Why should he ''stay in his lane'' if the local Plod are too dozy too be on the ball?
These are exactly the sort of questions that need to be asked!

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I dunno, I could be wrong but I think the police might, just might, have asked Paul that already.

AIBUYesofCourse · 07/02/2023 17:32

Nicknacky · 07/02/2023 17:29

I have an issue with him having asked her partner if Nicola has any enemies or stalkers, that’s not his place to ask that. He needs to stay in his lane.

Maybe his is as frustrated as most of the country that the police appear to have a one-track mind on it all.

And- unless you have heard him ask those questions, he may not have. The media may be inventing it.