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Archie Battersebee case-thread 2

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whynotwhatknot · 24/07/2022 14:28

ongoing from previous thread

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4573803-archie-battersbee-case?page=40

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Runnerbeansflower · 29/07/2022 18:02

Also, from what I read, the UN body will only consider cases where all the available national and international courses of redress have been exhausted. And the parents have chosen not to go to the ECHR

Cantthinkofabettername · 29/07/2022 18:04

The UN have stopped it all (I think) … I’m rubbish at links but it’s on the sky news website

Cantthinkofabettername · 29/07/2022 18:06

Screenshot is the best I can do (sorry)

Archie Battersebee case-thread 2
Cantthinkofabettername · 29/07/2022 18:11

Screenshot is the best I can do (sorry)

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Laiste · 29/07/2022 18:19

Surely not!

Cantanka · 29/07/2022 18:20

Cantthinkofabettername · 29/07/2022 18:11

Screenshot is the best I can do (sorry)

FFS.

How long is this ridiculous charade going to take for the UN to decide?

Are the UN going to fund the cost
of the care in the meantime? The main issue is keeping this poor boy “alive” in that condition.

Cakeandbiscuits23 · 29/07/2022 18:20

What the hell...

Cantanka · 29/07/2022 18:22

Sorry what I mean is I don’t think the cost is the main issue, the main issue is Archie’s lack of dignity - but it is going to cost money as well.

I suppose this is legally interesting, I just think it is so wrong. The English courts have taken such care in their approach to this and the UN just injuncts us just for the sake of a pointless investigation? Lamentable.

Badger1970 · 29/07/2022 18:24

I nearly wept when I saw this.

That poor poor boy. He deserves better Sad

whynotwhatknot · 29/07/2022 18:24

the un have blocked the order to turn off his life support?
-i thought they didnt get involved in individual cases like this
on what grounds

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Laiste · 29/07/2022 18:25

'' ....the UN just injuncts us just for the sake of a pointless investigation?''

as if we're naughty kids who can't sort our own issues out!

whynotwhatknot · 29/07/2022 18:26

she will now think shes right and the doctors are wrong again i dont know how this will help anyone

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Tequilamockinbird · 29/07/2022 18:28

WTF. This is unbelievable. I'm astounded.

BreadInCaptivity · 29/07/2022 18:29

As far as I understand the injunction is whilst they consider the case.

It's not a decision that it can never be done.

Rememberallball · 29/07/2022 18:29

DatingIsDifficult · 29/07/2022 17:41

Can I (respectfully) ask what would happen in a parallel universe where everyone just said ‘ok’? Would he stay as he is potentially forever? Would he definitely have a cardiac arrest or is that wishful thinking from everyone involved? Could he or someone in a similar position theoretically still be there in fifty years?

This is simply a theoretical question, I’m not suggesting it should happen, I’m just interested that’s all.

At the High Court hearing the week before last, the Drs said that Archie’s life expectancy now was being measured in weeks as opposed to months. The treatments he is on have their own effects on the body and the time will come when they become toxic and can no longer support the continued functioning and he will have a cardiac arrest. As Judge Hayden included an immediate DNAR, effective from the 11th July, in his judgement and that still stands, then the hospital staff would do nothing in the event this happened but would quietly turn of the monitors and drugs and let the inevitable happen.

PomRuns · 29/07/2022 18:30

Having worked in a trust with a sadly similar situation, half the itu staff left. The hospital won’t ever say talk about the behaviour of the parents but I’m sure you can imagine. Staff were physically abused and there was constant verbal
abuse. We had police at the ward entrance. It was utterly awful.

Soubriquet · 29/07/2022 18:30

That poor child. Now his mother is going I be convinced she’s right and that the hospital just want to kill her son.

How can the UN do this? How is this humane

SunflowerGardens · 29/07/2022 18:30

For Christ's sake. What is the point of dragging this pointless charade on?

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 29/07/2022 18:35

Whoah there's nothing about the UN when I look up Sky News , Breaking News it's about the 9yo girl in Lincolnshire and the Vardy/Rooney verdict

This has got to be a hoax , surely Shock

BreadInCaptivity · 29/07/2022 18:35

Soubriquet · 29/07/2022 18:30

That poor child. Now his mother is going I be convinced she’s right and that the hospital just want to kill her son.

How can the UN do this? How is this humane

They had an application from the family and are duty bound to consider it.

It's not the fault of the UN.

To repeat the injunction isn't to stop treatment being withdrawn forever, but just until they have reviewed the case.

It's not a surety that they will agree with the family.

Fundamentally the issue remains that this boy is not disabled, he is dead and the medical evidence for that is overwhelming.

Roominmyhouse · 29/07/2022 18:36

It’s just while they consider the case. Hopefully they’ll come to the right conclusion 🤞🏻

whynotwhatknot · 29/07/2022 18:36

i know its just a pause on the dicsion but it once again gives hope and thats just not needed

i thougth they only got involved in national problems not individual cases

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70isaLimitNotaTarget · 29/07/2022 18:37

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 29/07/2022 18:35

Whoah there's nothing about the UN when I look up Sky News , Breaking News it's about the 9yo girl in Lincolnshire and the Vardy/Rooney verdict

This has got to be a hoax , surely Shock

I'm not saying you've done it Can'tThink but somewhere this update has come up on SM. ! And makes no bloody sense at all !

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 29/07/2022 18:44

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 29/07/2022 18:37

I'm not saying you've done it Can'tThink but somewhere this update has come up on SM. ! And makes no bloody sense at all !

Knock me bandy - it is real

I'm am gobsmacked
Apologies to Cantthinkofabettername

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