Beansmum, you're probably right that we can't claim to be civilised with all the atrocities going on in the world
I still think any move which eliminates suffering, however small or insignificant it may seem is a good thing.
I have to go now as dd has just woken with the most horrible cough an is feeling very sorry for herself, poor mite.
I will check back on this though - will be interested to hear your argumentts which will prove your point Beansmum. Probably will not be able to get back here before Sunday night though becaus eof work...