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335 replies

Uhu · 16/09/2004 11:54

Tally Ho!

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aloha · 20/09/2004 20:40

On the saving animals lives by not eating them, the animals wouldn't exist if people didn't eat them. They wouldn't have been bred in the first place, and wouldn't be reared. Our countryside would look very different.

NomDePlume · 20/09/2004 20:43

But stupidgirl, the hides come off something. Where does the meat/body go ?

hmb · 20/09/2004 20:45

Thalidomide was never fully tested on animal because it pre existed the 1968 act which was brought in to prevent the same thing happeneing. Trot out the same sad old lies.

Lie , lie and lie again, Always the anti vivs line. I know that and you do, and now so does the rest of Mumsnet.

Get lost, get stuffed, go sit in your smug little world. I'm off never to return.

NomDePlume · 20/09/2004 20:46

I'm going to leave this thread alone now as it seems to be going a bit off piste

stupidgirl · 20/09/2004 20:49

NdP, well, the meat is the by-ptoduct I guess. It still gets eaten. My point was that the leather industry is an industry in itself, not just something which comes about because of meat eating.

stupidgirl · 20/09/2004 20:50

The number of animals used for one pair of shoes is not comparable to the number that a meat eater consumes in their life time.

NomDePlume · 20/09/2004 20:50

Please tel me you aren't off MN, though hmb ?

NomDePlume · 20/09/2004 20:52

OK, stupidgirl, point made.

Still don't get it though..... Night, night

stupidgirl · 20/09/2004 20:53

HMB, I don't understand why you need to make a personal attack on me because you don't agree with me??? The whole of mumsnet knows it;s lies because you say so??? And on what basis do you call me smug? Just because I care about soemthing outside of my immediate bubble?

You know nothing about me. If you can't handle someone disagreeing with you then a debate is not the place for you. Good riddance.

jasper · 21/09/2004 00:32

stupidgirl the spiders question was not meant to be patronising.

Foxes are very beautiful creatures and as such invoke a lot of sympathy.

If there was a plague of three foot tall hairy spiders killing chickens in the countryside and rummaging through bins in towns and a groups of people got together and said "hey, we could chase these ugly pests on horseback and kill them and have a great day out at the same time" would you be so vocal in your objections? Would you mind at all?

It is a perfectly serious question.

Foxes get sympathy because they are nice to look at.

Big hairy spiders don't.

stupidgirl · 21/09/2004 00:38

I am against the unnecessary killing of anything, human or animal. So, yes, I would object.

stupidgirl · 21/09/2004 00:38

And foxes are hardly a plague.

jasper · 21/09/2004 21:32

Frankly I am amazed that you would mind as much if foxes looked like spiders but good on you for being consistent in your principles

Foxes are indeed a plague where I live!

stupidgirl · 21/09/2004 21:48

If I have nothing else, I still have my principles

beansmum · 21/09/2004 21:50

there is a plague of huge hairy spiders roaming my house at the moment, i just took the carpet up and they're crawling through the cracks in the floorboards. i wish someone would come and hunt them down for me.

miggy · 21/09/2004 21:52

Just to add to the mix
1)My friends father makes fox traps and his trade has picked up since last week and he is looking forward to the ban. (fox is trapped then shot)
2)The kennel maid at the beagle kennels today told me that the RSPCA have written to them to offer to enter their premises and shoot the hounds-"to avoid distress to the kennel staff"
they have told them that they will be entering the premises over their dead bodies

aloha · 21/09/2004 22:24

Stupidgirl, would you ban fleaspray and rentokil then?

jasper · 21/09/2004 22:24

beansmum don't kill the spiders! You will need them if you get a plague of flies

Heathcliffscathy · 21/09/2004 22:38

jasper damn you and your 3 foot spiders....i'll have nightmares now (and i'm not even properly arachnaphobic)...3 foot

stupidgirl · 21/09/2004 22:44

Since this has turned in to 'lets all pick on stupidgirl and make fun of her beliefs' I think I'll bow out.

Heathcliffscathy · 21/09/2004 22:51

no stupidgirl...bit of gentle ribbing...

stupidgirl · 21/09/2004 23:23

Well, maybe I'm being over sensitive, but it sure as hell doesn't feel like that from the recieving end.

anteater · 21/09/2004 23:27

Anbody want to talk ants??

Avalon · 21/09/2004 23:31

Ants in chocolate?

JoolsToo · 21/09/2004 23:44

Following my post - "Without going into too much detail directors at the company where I work (in the north) have recently had paint stripper poured over their cars (and their families cars) had graffiti daubed on their houses, phone calls in the middle of the night and been threatened that forged letters would be sent to their neighbours saying they were child abusers - all this because ANOTHER company in the Group - in the south of country was involved in some lab work at Oxford. If that's defending animal rights what does it make the protestors? "

Quote stupidgirl "Joolstoo, having been very much involved with the animal rights movement, I can well understand the frustration which leads to such acts. I've been involved in similar non-violent direct action. There are certain actions which I don't condone, but again, I can understand the frustration which leads to it. "

so you're telling me you've gone round trashing peoples cars and the like and you think your acts are non-violent? have you any idea the trauma it causes to families who incidentally are in no way linked to the project - except they work for the same group of companies - and you expect what? sympathy for your cause? forget it you really ARE a STUPIDGIRL

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