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Hi everyone,
We have been receiving reports about this thread and have made several deletions. Our guidelines for behaviour on this thread haven't changed in the wake of Alfie Evans' death, so we would still prefer if you didn't attack the parents, family or medical staff or speculate about their behaviour/motives etc.

Exactly Fennel. It’s sickening.

I support a tiny charity based in a rural region of the country I grew up in. This is a least developed country with a high infant mortality rate, purely related to poverty.
This charity cares for newborn babies with malnutrition and re-integrates them into their communities at a few months old once they are passed the danger age.
There are many more babies that cannot be helped, and are not reached. Healthy babies (and some who are HIV+), born to desperately poor mothers who either have no access to contraception or don't otherwise have the agency to prevent pregnancies. Of every thousand babies born, 72 don't reach their first birthday.

The contrast between that, and the hysterical grief tourism of AA, has really hit me. Just the money spent on those balloons could have saved several actual, human lives if donated to this charity or a similar one.
Why does this army not care about all the babies that could actually be saved, lives that they could make a difference to?

This should have been a private matter for the child's parents and wider family.

I would say contributing to a charity without any fanfair doesn't feed their need to display their completely OTT reactions. They need social media to feed off of each other's frenzied messages to make them feel strong in a group, united in grief for a child none of them have ever met.

I wonder how long before the next Alfie?

I think silver has it spot on, I've never understood the outpouring for a single child that the medical profession have said can't be saved, and could potentially suffer trying to do so, in comparison to the thousands of completely preventable deaths every day from things as simple as a lack of food and water or simple medications. The human race is a funny thing at times.

I was listening to Radio 2 before and they had a brain surgeon on who was echoing more or less what has been said on this forum, that they simply can't be saved sometimes and we need to learn to accept that.

Yes, I think I'll be bowing out too, I just hope we aren't facing another case imminently and that the law as it stands continues to be upheld.

I'm off too, before I go just want to say a massive thank you to all the staff who work at AH and throughout our health system and prayers to all the poorly people and their families, you are all very brave.

silver is spot on. If they quietly donated to mito or SWAN charities in Alfie's memory more good would come of it.

It's so cringeworthy seeing people posting "We love you Alfie we do, We love you Alfie we do, We love you Alfie we doooooooo oh Alfie we love you" all over social media, people who statistically speaking can't all be relatives of or friends of the Evans family. Grief vampires.

And still it goes on. Why are the italians so invested? Do they seriously think the UK is euthanising babies?

www.lifesitenews.com/news/alfie-evans-was-given-4-drugs-just-before-he-died-report

Te is back up for a pride of britain award. The family that objected previously have deleted or made private everything referring to it. It must be very sad for them.

My sister in Poland is still going strong. Now posting about potential vaccinnes that could have made Alfie poorly.

What I don't understand is: these are countries which, so far as I know, do actually allow for the removal of life support when it becomes hopeless and/or increases suffering, they are not known for a practice of keeping people alive essentially as living corpses for decades on end. Why, then, does it apparently appear to some of their citizens as such a novelty? I've tried making the odd inquiry on Twitter etc as to whether it really is the case that they've never come across withdrawal of life support before, and whether they are saying that there are literally no circumstances where it is acceptable, but I've never yet had a reply. I can only assume they choose to block reality out.

Really, I agree with you, I don't know who their source is or how they would even know what treatment he had, poor baby had no privacy at all.

It defies logic. I assume not all of these people are unintelligent so they have either somehow got caught up by the hysteria on social media or their religious beliefs have robbed them of critical thought. Either way it's absurd.

Sorry DrinkFeckArseGirls I've just read your post about your sister. It must be difficult for you to know how to respond.

Silvery thank you. My sister is clearly an idiot - very recently parents of disabled children protested inside the Polish parliament against how little financial support they recieve. Can’t see my sister supporting them as vocally. It’s only foetuses and cute toddler people like that care about
I did respond a couple of times the first time round now I’m itching but thinking it’s best to say nowt.

Life site news, ah yes, the well known source of impartial and accurate information. The family really don't need that type of crap being printed. Mystery nurses with syringes, or whatever, my arse.

Going back to the whole balloon thing it has been posted from a family member asking people not to do anymore balloon releases. So the family have called that to a stop.. Though some have said about lanterns...

www.bmj.com/content/361/bmj.k1896

Really agree that if Alfie had been a 15 year old teenager he wouldn't have garnered a shred of interest from 99% of the army.

I have just looked at the FB page and it is like a different place. Very respectful in response to the request to stop releasing balloons - more talk of roses and candles which is nice. Much more measured and reasonable.

I can’t see a request to stop releasing balloons? Is that the “official” page?

My local page is still up in arms about people trying to spoil their plans and “i’m releasing mine anyway hun”

One person has found a burst purple balloon by the side of her car - she thinks it's a sign - I can't imagine of what

I notice at the top of the AA FB page the request for financial donations has not been changed - it still refers to needing money for diagnosis and treatment for Alfie. I don't understand why people are still donating to it when their money would be far better used helping other sick children.

It is the official page Newname. The one with 800,000 supporters