Trump assassination threat

[HPFA]

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/09/trump-gun-owners-clinton-judges-second-amendment

Words fail me....

[putthecatout]

Putting manmade climate change into perspective? My God, how far some people will go to delude themselves for personal advantage.

[claig]

'Tell people to go out and assassinate the elected President of the US'

He didn't say that.

[JudyCoolibar]

No, I have said I don't care about his gaffes, and I suspect that the majority of Trump voters won't either because no one takes a lot of what he says seriously.

Can you guarantee that not one of his supporters will take this seriously? How do you or anyone know which bits are supposed to be taken seriously and which aren't?

[claig]

'Can you guarantee that not one of his supporters will take this seriously? How do you or anyone know which bits are supposed to be taken seriously and which aren't?'

No, that is why it was irresponsible to say it and he shouldn't have said it.

[Roussette]

claig have you any idea how many times from the 70's onwards he has been fined or charged with racism? It is ingrained in him. He has in the past treated black workers appallingly in all his business ventures. He has avoided renting flats in his property empire to anyone not a white American by hiking the prices. He has been sued many a time, but settled privately. No black or hispanic person has ever played a major role in his vast business empire, ever. That surely says something?

Hang on, his friend Geraldo says he isn't, so he isn't. Have you any idea how ridiculous that statement is.

[JudyCoolibar]

You accept that a candidate for the presidency said something stupid and irresponsible (yet again) but you don't care, claig? How far are you going to take not caring?

You know perfectly well that he very deliberately said that using a gun was the answer to anything Clinton might do that the gun lobby dislikes. Don't split hairs. How can that possibly be acceptable to you?

[claig]

'claig have you any idea how many times from the 70's onwards he has been fined or charged with racism?'

As far as I know, never. Have you got links to him being fined?

'No black or hispanic person has ever played a major role in his vast business empire, ever.'

I doubt that is true. Trump's formidable spokesperson is black, Katrina Pierson.

'You accept that a candidate for the presidency said something stupid and irresponsible'

Yes, he has done that lots of times, and it has had no effect with the public.

'You know perfectly well that he very deliberately said that using a gun was the answer to anything Clinton might do that the gun lobby dislikes.'

I don't believe that, but you do believe it.

[Lweji]

Yes, I support him, but not his gaffes.

There is an old MN mantra that is highly applicable to Trump:
"when a man (person) tells you who he is, listen to him"

He has been showing who he is in full colours. And gaffes are definitely windows to the soul of people. It's what people say and do when they're not thinking how it makes them look.
Listen to him, claig.

[nauticant]

Yes, he has done that lots of times, and it has had no effect with the public.

The inflammatory comments Trump says don't gain him support? The public are indifferent to what he says? Fascinating.

[claig]

Lweji, everybody knows Trump makes gaffes. They mainly ignore his gaffes because they see him as not being a polished "career politician", but a brash outsider who makes mistakes and says stupid and irresponsible things. He is not like a politician.

[DontBuyANewMumCashmere]

I found this NewYorker article either from MN or FB (ah, great reading sources!!) where Trump's ghostwriter essentially calls him a sociopath.
So yeah. Mental Health issues coming out the wazoo. You know, probably, I don't know, you tell me now I can't be sued or flamed on here

[Just5minswithDacre]

Gosh.

I suppose the best defence he could make of that was that it was the sickest 'joke' in the history of presidential competition.

Terrible thing to suggest, especially in the US.

And he knew it, hence the 'terrible day' follow-up.

[ImperialBlether]

Anyone read this?

The book, by former Texas Monthly and Newsweek reporter Harry Hurt III, described a harrowing scene. After a painful scalp reduction surgery to remove a bald spot, Donald Trump confronted his then-wife, who had previously used the same plastic surgeon.

“Your fucking doctor has ruined me!” Trump cried.

What followed was a “violent assault,” according to Lost Tycoon. Donald held back Ivana’s arms and began to pull out fistfuls of hair from her scalp, as if to mirror the pain he felt from his own operation. He tore off her clothes and unzipped his pants.

“Then he jams his penis inside her for the first time in more than sixteen months. Ivana is terrified… It is a violent assault,” Hurt writes. “According to versions she repeats to some of her closest confidantes, ‘he raped me.’”

Following the incident, Ivana ran upstairs, hid behind a locked door, and remained there “crying for the rest of night.” When she returned to the master bedroom in the morning, he was there.#

“As she looks in horror at the ripped-out hair scattered all over the bed, he glares at her and asks with menacing casualness: ‘Does it hurt?’” Hurt writes.

Here

[JudyCoolibar]

'You accept that a candidate for the presidency said something stupid and irresponsible'

Yes, he has done that lots of times, and it has had no effect with the public

It has no effect with his adoring followers who, like you, inexplicably do not care how many lies he tells. The polls demonstrate that it does have an effect on the public as a whole.

[JudyCoolibar]

You know perfectly well that he very deliberately said that using a gun was the answer to anything Clinton might do that the gun lobby dislikes.

I don't believe that, but you do believe it.

So what do you believe he said? And I don't mean whatever attempt at a cover up he is trying to put forward.

[Lweji]

Trump's formidable spokesperson is black, Katrina Pierson

She's black? At best she's "mixed race" and rather pale. (this is probably the blackest photo of her I could spot)

Also nuts.
www.alternet.org/election-2016/12-craziest-things-about-trumps-spokeswoman-katrina-pierson

"“So what, they’re Muslim,” she said, when asked about Trump’s proposal to ban Muslims from the country."

"wearing a necklace (in the photo) of bullets for a CNN interview, to show her love and support for the NRA. When she was criticized, she said she’d wear a necklace of fetuses next time,"

"she did kind of like Sarah Palin, who seemed “more normal” to her." - this one really settles it.

"“What good does it do to have a good nuclear triad if you’re afraid to use it?”"

And she's been drifting from Obama to Cruz to Trump. Sounds a bit lot unstable.

[nauticant]

Don't be silly ImperialBlether. Once you view Trump as Mussolini played by Alexi Sayle crossed with Mr Bean you can see that it's all either accidental or a funny jape which no one would take seriously.

[claig]

'So what do you believe he said?'

I think it was intended to be a joke and it went wrong. He doesn't read off scripts usually and he says the first thing that comes to his head sometimes. He opens his mouth without engaging his brain sometimes and that is why he does so many gaffes.

[JudyCoolibar]

No, I'm not concerned with what he might have intended to say, but what he actually said. It appears that you don't disagree on what he actually said. And that is what matters.

[Lweji]

Claig, the public are not ignoring his gaffes (read: twatiness) or forgiving him everything.

He's been consistently behind Hillary and he's going down in the polls since the Republican convention.

All that Hillary needs to do now is sit back and watch him sink further.

[Roussette]

Katrina is actually of mixed parentage and this is now. He has no choice but to cover up his racism because he is a Presidential candidate. Previously no, no black or hispaic in any position of authority in all his companies. As for his other racism, google it, it's all out there.

[Lweji]

he says the first thing that comes to his head sometimes. He opens his mouth without engaging his brain sometimes and that is why he does so many gaffes.

Yes, claig. Listen to what he's saying. He is telling us who he really is. What is really going in that brain.

[DontBuyANewMumCashmere]

Blimey Imperial I'm pretty hardy but that wasn't pleasant.
I imagine that will upset a lot of people.

The link was very interesting,
Michael Cohen, special counsel at The Trump Organization, defended his boss, saying, “You’re talking about the frontrunner for the GOP, presidential candidate, as well as a private individual who never raped anybody. And, of course, understand that by the very definition, you can’t rape your spouse.”
“It is true,” Cohen added. “You cannot rape your spouse. And there’s very clear case law.”^

No denial of the act, then.

[BeingATwatItsABingThing]

Claig are you so stubborn that you refuse to see that Trump is nothing more than a racist, misogynisctic arsehole who wants to be President so he can ensure guns are securely in the hands of absolutely ANYONE. So he can make sure none of the non white males have a say in anything or are even allowed to stay in America (keep the white women of course, he'll need his piece of ass). I just can't even believe that someone could make an informed and rational decision to vote for him.

You said it yourself, not even his supporters take him seriously. Why would you vote for a man that you can't take seriously?