Trump assassination threat

[HPFA]

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/09/trump-gun-owners-clinton-judges-second-amendment

Words fail me....

[frogmore]

HPFA

[HPFA]

This comment from YouTube

That cat entered the country illegally and sponges off the country to pay it's vet bills.

Superb

[frogmore]

That cat knows something that we don't.
Just like before an earthquake- all animals do a runner- so who knows?

[Lweji]

I listened to most of the speech late last night and started wondering if Giuliani is loosing it. But his weird points of view do explain why he's supporting Trump. Lost all respect for him.

As for Trump, he looked positively tamed and contrived. Uncomfortable, even. That speech was clearly written for him.
It still avoided any specifics.

I imagine that his extreme screening will be applied to Britain, France and Belgium? Does he imagine they can properly screen visa candidates? The cold war was still rife with spies and infiltrated agents, as even recently exposed.

He won't be able to deal with internal nutcases.
And he's conveniently forgotten the internal danger of (lack of) gun control.

Did he claim that NATO developed a terrorism related division because of him?

He seems to be confused over whether it's best to intervene or not. On one hand, shame on Hillary for intervening. Apparently, Libya was just fine (albeit supporting terrorists, using banned weapons in a civil war and the uprising already having a strong hold - see why Libya and not Syria).
On the other hand, shame on Obama for wanting to retrieve the troops from the death pits the previous Republican administration sent them to.
Not only he keeps lying about his position on the Iraq invasion, he is also contradicting himself on intervention in Libya (he was in favour) and troop withdrawal (also in favour).
www.duluthnewstribune.com/opinion/readers-views/4095140-readers-view-trump-attempts-deceive-voters-libya-comments

And his "spoils to the victor" approach is just odious and likely to increase the sense of being exploited and robbed by local populations, thus increasing terrorism.
Under him it would be a (even more) clear case of how much oil we can get if we invade.

I skipped a bit towards the end, but he seems to have wisely avoided speaking of Putin.
Although he did mention Reagan to criticise Obama for his lack of moral judgement of lack of democracy somewhere.

He can seem to make sense (if he sticks to his given script), but only if you know nothing about the subject and don't read or listen to any different view points.

[HPFA]

theintercept.com/2016/08/15/fact-check-911-happened/

I used to think fears about post-truth politics were exaggerated but now....

[HPFA]

It's terrifying that a cat can see what millions of Americans apparently can't.

[OrsonWellsHat]

piglet that's hilarious clever cat

[frogmore]

"There were no successful Islamic terrorist attacks in America before Obama"- Rudy Giluanni (Mayor of New York September 2011) while introducing Donald Trump.

[TwoLeftSocks]

Today? Trust.

[TwoLeftSocks]

Today the cat, they know the score.

[PigletJohn]

beware

[OhYouBadBadKitten]

he is apparently going to be laying out his foreign policy any moment now live stream

[Lweji]

Also enlightening:

Missing from Trump’s list of charitable giving: His own personal cash

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-portrait-of-trump-the-donor-free-rounds-of-golf-but-no-personal-cash/2016/04/10/373b9b92-fb40-11e5-9140-e61d062438bb_story.html

[Lweji]

Trump
Charities
Possible Likely false claims

Donald Trump say ‘thank you’ as a crowd cheers him for a $20 million gift to charity. Does that gift even exist?
www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/08/08/watch-donald-trump-say-thank-you-as-a-crowd-cheers-him-for-a-20-million-gift-to-charity-does-that-gift-even-exist/

It may have been a "different Trump".

[Lweji]

It's like a story I read earlier in the year about how he helped some woman.
He got other people to donate money, and he just got the limelight, having given her nothing.

He barely puts anything into his own charitable foundation, only a few tens of thousands of dollars if that. I bet he uses it to claim tax relief, though.
Where are those tax forms, BTW?

[PigletJohn]

supporter unsupported

[Lweji]

"I'll never forgive them... But I love them anyway" [brain quickly backtracking]

And he's repeating the ISIS claims. Ignoring that ISIS has been shrinking lately and under Obama too.

ISIS used a blitzkrieg-like approach, taking over unstable but also largely peaceful regions very quickly. Yes, it has been hard to push them back, but it has been done, in multiple and international fronts.
www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-27838034
"Since then, IS has lost approximately 40% of the populated territory it once held in Iraq, and 10-20% of the populated territory it had seized in Syria, according to the US." - Syria has been the most difficult to address due to the local civil war anyway.


Did you see the following news on that site? uk.reuters.com/video/2016/08/14/imam-associate-shot-to-death-in-new-york?videoId=369565863&videoChannel=75&channelName=Top+News

Imam, associate shot to death in New York.

I hope it has nothing to do with Trump's hate campaign.

[Lweji]

Also he would despise most of his rabid supporters in real life.

Yes, he'd call them "stoopid" and losers.

[CheerfulYank]

I CAN'T EVEN STAND TO HEAR HIM SPEAK

[CheerfulYank]

I don't want him to win...GOD, do I not want him to win! The very idea makes me seethe with rage.

But am I scared of what his supporters will do if he loses? Hell yes I am.

[HPFA]

Trump now seems to think that people are obliged to vote for him.

uk.reuters.com/video/2016/08/14/trump-says-hell-never-ever-forgive-voter?videoId=369565862

This is starting to become genuinely frightening, although I suppose that would imply he wasn't frightening before. There's very serious threat of violence if he (hopefully) loses.

[OhYouBadBadKitten]

I guess that is the fundamental question - I get that there are irrational angry people who suddenly find they have a voice - but how is he getting away with this both legally and amongst the republican part as a whole?

[CheerfulYank]

Oh yes. And that's what I said about his horrible 2nd amendment remarks. He may have skirted the law, but he HAS to know what his rabid fans are like. He HAS to know that they are willing to commit actual real life violence on his say so. He just doesn't care.

I'm baffled by his popularity. If any other presidential candidate had had five children by three partners, their campaign wouldn't have got off the ground, for starters. And saying what he said about McCain?! NO ONE else would have gotten away with that.

Also he would despise most of his rabid supporters in real life. He doesn't know anything about their lives, struggles, and culture and he wouldn't care to. It's just a means to an end.

[OhYouBadBadKitten]

CheerfulYank, sadly although they would be able to tie his hands, they wouldn't be able to tape his mouth up. What he says is hugely inciting for those who believe his rhetoric and how he is interpreted by other world leaders is greatly worrying.

[Lweji]

He could still cause all sorts of problems outside the US.

And it's not good that he does seem to have a, shall we say, fondness for Putin (regardless of allegations or not).

But, yes, most of his bullshit relates to how little he can actually do, particularly if he alienates his own party, regardless of his promises.