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HPFA · 10/08/2016 06:39

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/09/trump-gun-owners-clinton-judges-second-amendment

Words fail me....

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Ailicece · 10/08/2016 20:16

Sorry if this breaches thread etiquette, but things were moving on so fast when I posted this that I think it may have been missed. Please do read this article about Trump's threat to Clinton as it's a real eye opener:

This NY Times article is worth a read as it clearly shows the possible consequences of Trump's "throwaway remarks". This isn't a game folks!

"And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin got assassinated."

www.nytimes.com/2016/08/10/opinion/trumps-ambiguous-wink-wink-to-second-amendment-people.html?smid=fb-share&_r=0

Inkanta · 10/08/2016 20:27

'Yes, Inkanta, it is truly fascinating. This is the biggest revolution we have ever witnessed. Trump intends to take down the elites. If he succeeds, everything will change and common sense will return.'

Yes it does seem like a revolution. He does not play the game and whether or not one agrees with what he says - it's his opinion you know that much. That must be what appeals to his supporters.

Does anyone really know what Hilary Clinton believes - does she speak honestly? I don't know. She appears to play the game.

SwedishEdith · 10/08/2016 20:28

Giddy - thanks for spotting that. Isn't Spanish the first language in Florida? Odd comment.

SomeDayMyPrinceMightCome · 10/08/2016 20:31

A very minor thing, really, but that video of the Stump Sisters or whatever they're called.

Oh, dear.

I write comedy for a (pretty successful) living and my oh my, that is NOT comedy, Cleig. I mean, it's just not. It's two women yelling facile things loudly while people hoot with laughter behind them. On that basis, many school bullies would be 'comedians'. Plenty of people roar with laughter while they rip the shit out of someone in the playground.

Also, I hate to say it but I think a lot of their (ahem) 'comedy' as some people see it is stemming purely from the fact that they're women and that they're black. And middle-aged. Two young white frat boys doing and saying exactly the same (utterly unfunny) stuff wouldn't be hailed as comedy greats. So I think it's horribly patronising to find them 'hilarious' on the basis that they're female and black.

Oh, and Trump is a twerp. That's all, really.

Showmethewaytogohome · 10/08/2016 20:31

I for one prefer 'playing the game' rather than inciting speeches, demonising immigrants, the disabled, misogyny, requesting help from your country's foes....I can't even list them all

There is a interesting video showing his flip flops re policy including NOT being racist, being prop choice etc. So he is either a con or a fascist. Either one he is not fit to have control of nukes.

Showmethewaytogohome · 10/08/2016 20:33

Miriam I guess that means I'm not a Stalinist ho hum

SwedishEdith · 10/08/2016 20:53

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Breaking: US Secret Svce has spoken to #Trump campaign re: 2nd Amendment comments, "more than one conversation” -USSS official tells me

SwedishEdith · 10/08/2016 20:57

Jim Sciutto is CNN's Chief National Security Correspondent (had to check that myself).

claig · 10/08/2016 21:00

'I write comedy for a (pretty successful) living '

SomeDayMyPrinceMightCome, watch their videos on The Viewers' View on youtube. I think you will find some of them very funny, but if you don't then it is down to the fact that we all have different senses of humour.

'Also, I hate to say it but I think a lot of their (ahem) 'comedy' as some people see it is stemming purely from the fact that they're women and that they're black.'

Not with Trump voters because they are not politically correct. They like comedy for comedy's sake not because of who is doing it. However, the comedy does stem from a base of Trump support and what Trump stands for in opposition to the Establishment, so if you don't have that feeling base it may not be so funny as the point may not come across properly.

SomeDayMyPrinceMightCome · 10/08/2016 21:05

Claig, you completely misunderstand me.

I'm not suggesting that people are laughing to be politically correct, to pretend to find two middle-aged black women funny because they feel it's the politically correct thing to do so. I'm suggesting precisely the opposite. That they GENUINELY find some utterly unfunny remarks/posturing funny purely because it's done by people who are middle aged and black and female.

ie they're being utterly patronising and faintly racist, not remotely PC (which, yes, I realise they are not, by the way.)

claig · 10/08/2016 21:07

SomeDayMyPrinceMightCome, I think the reason they are funny to Trump supporters is because they express what Trump supporters feel in forthright direct language that socks it to the Establishment and that is funny because it is what people feel and can't do themselves.

claig · 10/08/2016 21:09

'That they GENUINELY find some utterly unfunny remarks/posturing funny purely because it's done by people who are middle aged and black and female. '

Oh, I see what you mean. I don't think it is that because that is not funny. Diamond and Silk are the spokespeople for Trump fans, they express their sentiments better than they could. They are an organic product of the Trump revolution against the Establishment and the cronies and they are funny because it is such a rare thing.

claig · 10/08/2016 21:13

'find some utterly unfunny remarks/posturing funny purely because it's done by people who are middle aged and black and female. ''

That would be a bit like laughing at them and not with them. Trump fans laugh with them, they tune in for the latest broadcast so they can have a laugh as the truth about the Establishment is revealed Trump style.

The Establishment have got no one as funny as the Stump for Trump Sisters because they are real and have sprung up from the movement organically. The Establishment ones are manufactured to spin the people and are therefore not that funny because they are not real.

Italiangreyhound · 10/08/2016 21:16

TheDowagerCuntess re "I've been of the opinion for some time that he's actually trying to throw this fight. ....So he's getting more desperate. He's only after the massive ego trip. He doesn't actually want the hard work of running the country!"

I think you are right. I think he might be ready to do a Boris!

I am sure those in power in the US are terrified if he did get in. What a shocker for the world!

Lweji · 10/08/2016 21:20

The Establishment have got no one as funny as the Stump for Trump

You think so because you only watch Trump, his advisors and the sisters.
Although, Trump himself is good comedy. And yes, in a laugh at him way, not with him.

claig · 10/08/2016 21:21

SomeDayMyPrinceMightCome, don't say what exactly you do comedy-wise, but do you do TV stuff?

I love comedy and funny writing, it is a real art. Of course that is one of Trump's attractions as he is a natural comedian if you actually listen to him. Trump is like Morecambe to straight man Wise. He called Jeb Bush a "stiff" which summed up what people thought about him and made them laugh in recognition.

Here is Camille Paglia explaining Trump's comic genius which is a showman, entertainer skill

Over on the GOP side, Donald Trump continues to gain strength, despite the nonstop artillery barrage of Democratic operatives and their clone army in the mainstream media. Trump just rolls on and on, despite every foot-in-mouth gaffe that would stop a normal campaign cold. He’s terrific on the radio, I must say. Even though I do like Elizabeth Warren (I even believe she has Native American ancestry, although certainly not enough to qualify her for affirmative action), I burst out laughing in my car last week when I heard Trump confidingly say (like a yenta at Zabar’s deli), “She’s a woman that has been very ineffective—except that she has a big mouth.” His New York comic timing was spot on. I laughed out loud again this week when I heard Trump interrupt his press conference to tag an ABC reporter as “a sleaze”—at which I am sure thousands of other radio listeners heartily cheered. It’s been a long time since any major politician had the chutzpah to tell the arrogant, double-dealing East Coast media what most of the country thinks about them.

There’s an absurdist, almost Dadaist quality to Trump’s candidacy, like Groucho Marx satirizing high society swells in A Night at the Opera or the radical Yippies trying to levitate the Pentagon at their 1967 antiwar protest. Trump routinely deploys all the subversive transgressiveness that campus Leftists claim to value. He goes straight as an arrow to the forbidden and repressed—as when he recently fearlessly raised the long hushed up case of the 1993 suicide of Vince Foster, the deputy White House counsel whom the Clintons had brought to Washington from Little Rock. Unfortunately, Trump mixed it up with baseless murder-conspiracy rumors, because there are already enough unanswered questions about the incident (such as possible illegal interference by Hillary’s staff in the official investigation and even the ambiguous issue of exactly where Foster died).

www.salon.com/2016/06/02/zombie_time_at_campaign_hillary_camille_paglia_on_trumps_real_strength_and_clintons_fatal_sleepwalking/

If Trump wins, one reason will be because he is funny, because funny is human rather than a "stiff".

TheDowagerCuntess · 10/08/2016 21:23

He does not play the game and whether or not one agrees with what he says - it's his opinion you know that much. That must be what appeals to his supporters.

Do you really believe this?

He does play the game, and it's not always his opinion. He's a liberal elite New Yorker. He's historically ripped the piss out of the very people who support him, saying if he ever went for president, he'd run on the Republicsn ticket, because those people believe anything you say.

So he says 'anything' and his supporters blindly lap it up.

augustwashout · 10/08/2016 21:35

Showmetheway You talk like an old-style Stalinist. Are you a supporter of Stalinism?

I have to admit only diving in and skimming the thread some comments have reminded me of socialism.

Hitler was of course a socialist.

TheDowagerCuntess · 10/08/2016 21:46

How was Hitler a socialist?

Showmethewaytogohome · 10/08/2016 22:24

I have entered a parallel universe

Hitler was a socilaist
Trump is 'for the people'
I am a Stalinist
And Camille Paglia's opinion is worth reading (gave up on that one in the 90's)

What next? BTW Claig Pence has just suggested that anyone from any religion could be banned from entering the US - that's OK then! Would be very interesting how this will work. Will we get badges?

Pangurban1 · 10/08/2016 22:26

The man who disgracefully goes on about guns being a great thing everywhere, even schools, won't allow people to bring them into his rally venues.

His remark was that of a thug.

claig · 10/08/2016 22:31

' Pence has just suggested that anyone from any religion could be banned from entering the US'

Pence is a bit of an idiot.

Showmethewaytogohome · 10/08/2016 22:35

So why would Trump appoint him? Is he an idiot too? Also he's only expanding on a theme isn't he. So is it only the Muslims that get badges then?

claig · 10/08/2016 22:42

'So why would Trump appoint him? Is he an idiot too? '

Trump, an idiot? Absolutely not!

Trump had to pick someone. He is surrounded by Establishment and probably had to appease the by selecting an insider. I would have preferred if he had chosen retired Lt. COl. Mike Flynn, former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, who knows exactly what has been going on in Syria, but unfortunately he chose Establishment insider Pence who is in favour of the neoliberal globalist free trade deals like TPP.