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Assaults in Cologne and other European cities part VI

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HelpTheAnimalsFirst · 15/01/2016 10:54

Thread 6.

OP posts:
Bienchen · 17/01/2016 20:34

Emily how can you prove that there is no overlap? Why would it be impossible to be a refugee and support IS? Does this not compute for you and therefore it cannot be?

polentapies · 17/01/2016 20:34

There is nothing in my post which is problematic. you told us you lived overseas. What's your problem with that

CalmYoBadSelf · 17/01/2016 20:37

I genuinely don't think you want to deepen your own understanding: you want to read things that support your world view, and either ignore or attempt to discredit anything that disagrees with this. Absolutely true. We have all raised the point throughout the thread that Emily does not want to take on board any information from anybody else but just keeps parroting her view even when it has been refuted and evidenced as wrong (as the Oktoberfest stuff was)

I will be sending a letter to my MP tomorrow using shameless copy and paste from the one lumela kindly shared and others on here

MamaMary · 17/01/2016 20:46

I am eagerly awaiting the link to the petition. Is there any reason it's not live yet?

I'm simply ignoring posts by Emily and their replies, and have done for several threads now. It's a waste of time and energy engaging with her.

emilybohemia · 17/01/2016 20:46

I didn't tell you that polenta. I don't want to tell you where I live and fail to see how where I live reduces any validity of what I am saying. People have stated that they live in the US and Germany on these threads and noone has questioned their interest, because they share the same opinions. I must note the experience of a German woman,that lived there for years and said much about the long standing problem of sexual violence,street harrassment and groping, was heartily dismissed because the attacks weren't 'big' enough.

Your interest in where I live is strange and a little worrying.

Bienchen, I remember you and your comment that groping was to be expected at Oktoberfest.

Moreshabbythanchic · 17/01/2016 20:47

I know its hard but please, please don't interact with obnoxious posters, it will only result in getting the thread pulled and all the good peoples work will be in vain.

Please don't give her the satisfaction.

Justanotherlurker · 17/01/2016 20:48

As Emily is selectively quoting or not responding to 'proplematic' questions.

I think we need to get a decent Twitter tag as well as the gif, as that alone is going to be difficult to get trending.

polentapies · 17/01/2016 20:49

emilybohemia Mon 11-Jan-16 19:21:01

I am overseas living in a little village

polentapies · 17/01/2016 20:49

You missed that one, didn't you?

IamTheWhoreofBabylon · 17/01/2016 20:50

I can't make the gif my profile pic on FB
Any idea why?

polentapies · 17/01/2016 20:51

I think it has to be a complete file, if that makes sense

kesstrel · 17/01/2016 20:51

Lots of back-peddling from Emily on her claims about about what Help said, now that she has realised there is a search facility.

However, she seems unable to grasp that the mass of migrants who have entered Europe can contain BOTH refugees and economic migrants, and that among the 800,000 or so young men, many with no documents, it is highly unlikely that none are members of ISIS. No, she would rather make wild accusations that anyone who doesn't hold her own extremely simplistic viewpoint is "dishonest".

kesstrel · 17/01/2016 20:52

Right, sorry Shabby. Will stop now.

Justanotherlurker · 17/01/2016 20:52

Sorry missed Vertigo post about this.

emilybohemia · 17/01/2016 20:52

Your interest is strange regardless polenta and smacks of a certain desperation.

Moreshabbythanchic · 17/01/2016 20:54

Sorry, I don't mean to be bossy, I just don't want her to win!

Bienchen · 17/01/2016 20:56

Emily stop quoting out of context. Here is what I wrote: "Emily if you work as a server at Oktoberfest you know to expect groping. Yes it is wrong but you know that you need to be prepared for that and you can also accidentally drop a stein on the idiot's hand."

A server works for the season of Oktoberfest, and isn't a visitor for a night or an afternoon.

You also accused me of double standards before and now you have the nerve to quote me as in support. Leave well alone!

polentapies · 17/01/2016 20:58

Interest in what Emily, your motives for calling an entire thread racist? Unhinged, I think, is the word for such behaviour

But yes resorting to attack again is your peculiar gift Emily. That would be of the same where you attack a poster, who cannot defend herself.

You are tenacious though, I'll give you that.

emilybohemia · 17/01/2016 20:58

Report away january. Individuals from many countries are helping refugees. However, the rise of the far right, Pegida, Le Front Nationale, Britain First and other groups indicates that a significant proportion of the populations of many European countries are racist.

I didn't call your MIL racist because I don't know her and stuff.

kesstrel · 17/01/2016 20:59

Lumela Thanks for posting that article in the Atlantic. I am reading it now.

Justanotherlurker · 17/01/2016 21:00

Your interest is strange regardless polenta and smacks of a certain desperation

It's a valid concern into your reasoning and evasiveness.

glenthebattleostrich · 17/01/2016 21:03

Emily give up now love. You are behaving like a petulant child running and telling mummy when anyone says something you dislike or shows you to be wrong. Quite frankly your Hitler references and running through the thread shouting racist when counter arguments and facts are given is getting rediculous. And reporting polentapines is farcical.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you are misinterpreting posters rather than maliciously lying and being goady. But for goodness sake your behaviour is abhorrent.

I fully expect you to run to mnhq and tell them mean old Glen is picking on you. Oh and I don't care where you are from, you're the one who referenced that you are outside of the uk twice that I recall.

emilybohemia · 17/01/2016 21:04

CalmYo

I don't have to have a deep understanding of Islam to know when people express hostility and hate toward them and want to popularise nasty stereotypes about them.

No, I don't want to take on board the myth that men of a certain appearance or faith are more sexually violent and dangerous based on recent events that have still to be understood. It is reactionary and alarmist.

I would say ignored because it doesn't fit your narrative that foreign men are more dangerous, rather than 'wrong.'

Inkanta · 17/01/2016 21:04

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polentapies · 17/01/2016 21:05

No no, she's a woman

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