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Oscar Pistorius trial part 4

987 replies

Pennies · 15/04/2014 09:53

Here you go.

OP posts:
ZuluinJozi · 17/04/2014 09:11

@member, Dixon left the state last year

Roussette · 17/04/2014 09:11

I am appalled. Mr. Dixon is explaining the trajectory of the bullets on Reeva. Unusually the camera has panned over to OP. He is sat with his fingers rammed into his ears. He should be made to listen to what he has done. How dare he try and block it all out.

OneStepCloser · 17/04/2014 09:11

Bloody hell Shock, that Facebook thing is so unprofessional, I can't believe his evidence has not been thrown out.

HowAboutNo · 17/04/2014 09:15

Roussette lets just say, I think OP is all to aware that there are journos behind him and a camera watching. Got to look the part! It's all exaggerated. Guilty or not of murder, he needs to stop.

LookingThroughTheFog · 17/04/2014 09:18

Rousette, he's been doing that at every point any time the forensics people are discussing the shots and the wounds. It tends to make him vomit.

I'm finding that strangely fascinating in itself. At first I thought it was because the dissonance between the reality of shooting someone and what he thought would happen in his head. Early on, I wondered if there was an argument that he thought of guns of toys, and simply was unable to cope with the reality of it.

That's somehow changed as the trial has gone on. He's still being sick (or at least retching) every time the dry, calm facts about the bullets and wounds are being read out. I would have thought, if my dissonance theory was correct, he'd have built up a tolerance by now.

Now I wonder if he's having a reaction because the physical evidence of the bullets and the wounds are indisputable (although the finer detail about the order and trajectory is still being disputed.)

I don't know.

HowAboutNo · 17/04/2014 09:19

As usual, my girl sat behind the witness box can barely keep her eyes open.

SauceForTheGander · 17/04/2014 09:19

I saw something on twitter that had a picture of Nel saying "you said WHAT in Facebook"

I thought it was a joke. Surely he didn't. Any stomach churning I had for Dixon immediately evaporates. He's arrogant and sloppy.

I'm pleased for Reeva she's got Nel in her corner.

member · 17/04/2014 09:22

I wonder if OP is generally squeamish i.e if he saw bloody animal parts for e.g whether he'd retch; maybe not just because it's Reeva's injuries?

Roussette · 17/04/2014 09:23

I thought he blocked it all out once in court, I didn't realise he did this whenever anything unsavoury came up, it's like a child. He should be made to sit up and listen and take it like a man. I find it abhorrent.

Mr. Dixon is trying desperately to prove she would not have been able to scream. He is saying the pathologist is wrong. That would suit the defence wouldn't it...

LookingThroughTheFog · 17/04/2014 09:25

I wondered that too, Member. He is able to discuss blood and look at the bloodied pictures talk about the blood (he was able to quite clearly describe how Reeva was positioned when he found her in reference to a picture of pooled blood).

It's when the very dry facts about bone fragments happens that he has such a visceral reaction.

It's entirely possible he has a thing about bone.

Roussette · 17/04/2014 09:25

and that's a pathologist who has performed 10-15,000 autopsies and Mr. Dixon has just attended 3. I think this is sounding pathetic and desperate. Let's hope Nel makes mincemeat of him.

Chipstick10 · 17/04/2014 09:27

I have said that all along sauceforthegander, nel is fighting hard for Reeva

LookingThroughTheFog · 17/04/2014 09:27

I think Dixon is doing better today.

I typed that right before he said 'it would be very nice if I were a ballistics expert...'

Yes. I think it we'd all think it would be better if the defence had a ballistics expert for this bit.

LookingThroughTheFog · 17/04/2014 09:29

I think a very interesting question at this point would be whether this was the first time Pistorius ever shot this particular weapon.

HowAboutNo · 17/04/2014 09:31

Nel has him in a corner here. Dixon has just basically said Pistorius is wrong about the magazine rack. Awkward, awkward, awkward

Gobbolinothewitchscat · 17/04/2014 09:38

All of OP's flopping and wailing is not very helpful for his team. He needs to be listening carefully so he can give them instructions - he was the only one there (as Gerrie has reminded us eleventy million times!)

Roussette · 17/04/2014 09:39

So even Mr. Dixon is contradicting OP's version of events

Aventurine · 17/04/2014 09:42

Sorry, what did Dixon write on FB?

SauceForTheGander · 17/04/2014 09:43

Isn't he chipstick

DH is on annual leave now so I can't watch live stream. Thank you for your posts everyone.

LookingThroughTheFog · 17/04/2014 09:52

Right - I'm now away from a computer for five days, so that's it for me until 5th May.

Roussette · 17/04/2014 09:53

Nel is like a rottweiler. I have to say it's bad. Mr. Dixon has recreated a scene with someone on their knees designed to be OP on his stumps. Yet it's 8inches wrong and Nel won 't let go. It's all to do with visibility in the window and the photos are wrong and Nel keeps asking "why did you not ensure this person was the correct height?" (he said earlier, the person kneeling could have knelt on something to make it correct). Mr. Dixon keeps going on about 'scale' but it's absolutely no excuse.

If this is wrong what else is? He is casting doubt on every single thing Mr Dixon is saying

member · 17/04/2014 10:01

if you are doing a reconstruction, you try and recreate exact conditions.

We've had everything from the sounds of bats/bullets hitting a door in an open range rather than an enclosed tile space

to using a person if different height to confirm/refute what the Stipps saw

(that's not even mentioning splicing a repeated gunshot together because of gun jamming/not using the same ammunition)

Nerf · 17/04/2014 10:04

Okay, I'm going to agree that Mr Dixon is evasive. I was listening really closely and I'm only a layperson but I would expect measurements and accurate height as the basics to the reports

AnyaKnowIt · 17/04/2014 10:04

There are pictures of op using the same gun on a range, so he would know what those bullets would do

Roussette · 17/04/2014 10:05

And now another light test. But yet they've done it at a different time of year, different moon conditions, 8.30pm at night, instead of middle of the night. This is truly terrible.