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Nigel Farage expels entire UKIP membership for bringing party into disrepute

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ttosca · 19/01/2014 19:25

The entire membership of UKIP across Britain – including councillors, MEPs and grassroots activists- has been expelled from the party following a hearing in front of a UKIP disciplinary panel in London.

Details of the reasons for the expulsions have not been disclosed, but party leader Nigel Farage confirmed to the media that it was in response to allegations that the entire membership was full of intolerant, narrow-minded, crackpot dingbats who pretend to be libertarian but in fact simply don’t like foreigners and homosexuals much.

In response to the mass expulsions, the former UKIP membership said they “feel sickened” at the way they had been treated and planned to appeal against the decision.

Immediately after the expulsions, the disciplinary panel members announced they had also expelled themselves from the party for bringing the party into disrepute, leaving Mr Farage as the sole UKIP member.

tompride.wordpress.com/2014/01/19/nigel-farage-expels-entire-ukip-membership-for-bringing-party-into-disrepute/

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claig · 21/01/2014 08:00

You're almost as bad as your great leader, Cameron, who called millions of voters "fruitcakes" or the alleged senior Tory who called some of teh hardworking Tory Party constituency workers "swivel-eyed loons".

It is these people who have looked down on and let millions of good Tory voters down. And they still don't get it. They think it is "small beer". Oh dear, oh dear.

The Daily Mail said in worried tones
"the revenge of the voters is serious"

The people are having the last laugh. It is like a Hollywood college-movie comedy

"Revenge of the fruitcakes"

The fruitcakes will cause an earthquake.

claig · 21/01/2014 08:46

If you really want to understand why the "small beer" and the little things are so important, then you should try and understand that it is about trust.

If we can't trust them on the little things, on the "small beer", on their little values, on their core values, then we can't trust them on the big things.

When we see them putting wind turbines on their roofs, then they have blown their cover and we know they don't share our values, so why should we trust them on the big issues. Some "metropolitan" Oxford PPE probably advised Cameron to place a wind turbine on his roof, but that just shows how little they understand the little people.

The great Daily Mail understands the people and here are some quotes they got from some of the little people who live near Cameron

"Joe Ambrosiano, 48, who lives within view of the turbine spoke for many residents.

"It's a gimmick and he's trying to make himself look green. I can see that thing from my bedroom, it's ugly, an eyesore that spoils the neighbourhood."

Another neighbour, Bridget Davies, 80, said that while she thought generating your own power was laudable, the turbine was something of a blot on the roofscape.

Mrs Davies, a part-time Citizen's Advice Bureau worker said: "There are so many unpleasant things in the modern world and this is just another."

An elderly lady living directly next door to Mr Cameron, who did not wish to be named said: "I certainly would not want one on my roof."

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-443686/Up-roof--Camerons-wind-turbine-arrives.html

Long live the people and the common sense of the little people.

Can't you see which way the wind is blowing, don't you understand the people, can't you change course before it is too late? Do you want to be stuck on a ridge with the human rights lawyers, the environmental lawyers and the polar bears?

claig · 21/01/2014 08:53

Do you think the great Nigel Farage of the Independence Party would put a wind turbine on his roof?

Would he heck! He'd put a beer barrel on his roof instead!

It's all about values!

Isitmebut · 21/01/2014 10:29

Claig…thank you, I now see it, how can Cameron lead a country with a wind turbine on his roof; we need a man’s man who can diss woman workers and homosexuals, like President Putin of Russia. Now that stud even shows his chest off while riding a horse and drinking vodka at the same time…can you just f-e-e-l the tesost….tutest….hormones rushing through such leaders of men’s veins.

Ukip don’t “hug hoodies” do they, they just politically get in bed with them, across Europe, now THIS LOT have r-e-a-l values, I can NOW see the Ukip light and values THEY try to hide.

“Ukip is part of the group Europe of Freedom and Democracy (EFD). The group includes representatives of the Danish People’s Party, the True Finns Party, the Dutch SGP and the infamous Italian Lega Nord – all of them far-right. Nigel Farage is co-President of the group along with Lega Nord’s Francesco Speroni, who described multiple murderer Anders Breivik as someone whose “ideas are in defence of western civilisation."
Mario Borghezio, another member of the group, declared in a radio interview that Breivik had some "excellent" ideas. Farage’s reaction was towrite a strongly-worded letter to Borghezio, asking him to withdraw his comments or Ukip would pull out of the EFD.

Borghezio not only did not apologise, but responded with an extraordinary speech in which he raged: "Long live the Whites of Europe, long live our identity, our ethnicity, our race… our blue sky, like the eyes of our women. Blue, in a people who want to stay white."
Nigel Farage did not withdraw from the EFD.”
www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/02/ukip-party-bigots-lets-look-evidence

And re the BNP…
“Farage boasted on The Andrew Marr Show(20 January 2013) that “Ukip is the only UK party to explicitly ban BNP members from joining”. What party, other than a party whose policies are attractive to such organisations, would need to do that?

Christopher Monckton, their Scotland Leader and Head of Policy Unit invited the now-defunct British Freedom Party – an amalgamation of mostly breakaway BNP members led by a former Ukip candidate until January 2013 – to join Ukip: “I would very much like them to come back and join us and we stand together.” Ukip’s excuse for this lapse? Monckton had been away on a tour of the US and was not up to speed with current policy. More recently, however, Farage refused to vote to oppose moves for the European Union to fund the BNP.

The founder of the party, Alan Sked, says it has become "extraordinarily right-wing" and is now devoted to "creating a fuss, via Islam and immigrants”.

claig · 21/01/2014 10:41

Gordon Brown!
Are you a real Tory or a Guardian journalist?

Is that the best you've got - to shout "racist" and "fruitcake" and "loon"?

Even your great leader, Cameron, dropped that line when he saw that the advice of his oxford PPE think-tank quango advisers didn't go down well with the public.

Next you'll be calling Mrs Duffy a bigot like the great Gordon Brown.

With people like you, no wonder the Tories are in deep stuck.

I'm not voting for you. I'm with the revolution, with the people, with UKIP!

claig · 21/01/2014 10:49

You're not part of the chumocracy are you?
Are you worried about losing your expenses and having to pay for your own bathplugs like we all have to do?

claig · 21/01/2014 11:04

Do you actually read the greatest British newspaper, the Daily Mail, or are you one of these chums in the chumocracy who hugs hoodies, pets polar bears and hug huskies and who looks down on ordinary Tory voters and reads the Guardian and Left Foot Backward?

How many wind turbines have you got installed on your roof?

This is from a Daily Mail comment piece. Start reading the Daily Mail before its too late if you want to keep your seat.

"But hurling insults at UKIP is not the way for the Tories to win over a sceptical electorate sick and tired of squabbling politicians and Westminster parlour games.

Rather, the public wants David Cameron’s party to show it understands their concerns on growth, immigration, Europe and the rampant abuse of human rights law."

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2316272/Local-elections-Voters-want-policies-insults-UKIP.html

DawnMumsnet · 21/01/2014 11:05

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claig · 21/01/2014 11:10

You're not David Cameron are you?

Dave, it's over if you don't get your act together soon.

You said you'd "cut the green crap", Dave, but then you spolit it by saying you thought the floods had something to do with this thing you call "global warming" and the Met Office stuck the boot in and said it had nothing to do with it.

Dave, you've lost all credibility. A fruitcake called Farage is running rings round you.

Dave, ditch your advisors, they haven't got a clue. The chums from Eton and Oxford wouldn't recognise an ordinary voter if they hit them in the face with a wet kipper.

Ubik1 · 21/01/2014 11:16

Why are people reporting this thread? Confused

nennypops · 21/01/2014 13:03

Claig, I'm amazed that you keep promoting your love for the Daily Mail whilst proclaiming your intention to vote UKIP. You do realise that Dacre is absolutely desperate for people to vote Conservative, don't you?

flatpackhamster · 21/01/2014 13:09

Claig, I really wish that you would post ONE post rather than eight. You make threads unreadable.

claig · 21/01/2014 13:14

nenny, I know that.

But what alternative is there? There is no other paper like the Daily Mail that stands up for the middle classes. It doesn't mean I believe everything that is in it and everything they say, but on the whole they stand up for my middle class Middle England values and that is why I like them.

The Daily Mail is failing in turning people away from UKIP just as the BBC is failing in making people believe in 'global warming'. The reason is that they are both using unsubtle propaganda.

The Daily Mail writes hit pieces on UKIP and its readers still say they are going to vote UKIP in the comments section. They can't stop it because the public is so fed up that there is a tide that will sweep the spinners out of office.

It is only Osborne that can save the Tories with the economy and it looks like he is being successful at the moment.

claig · 21/01/2014 13:15

'I really wish that you would post ONE post rather than eight. You make threads unreadable.'

It is because I always have another idea after I have finished my previous post.

flatpackhamster · 21/01/2014 13:16

Perhaps you should post more slowly, then.

claig · 21/01/2014 13:18

OK, I'll try.

wetaugust · 21/01/2014 13:19

Watching Question Time from London brought it home to me just how far out of touch the London-based politicians and public are with the rest of the country.

claig · 21/01/2014 13:23

Absolutely right, wetaugust.
I had begun to lose hope. I thought the elite were all powerful and could do anything they wanted to the people. But the rise of UKIP and the rise of similar parties all across Europe has convinced me that there is always hope and that an out-of-touch elite cannot hold sway over millions of ordinary people forever.

wetaugust · 21/01/2014 13:25

ttosca

UKIP voters don''t know the intricacies of EU legislation and Treaty clauses. They don't make decisoins on that basis.

That made me very angry indeed. I've read the Maastricht Treaty - you know, the one that Ken Clarke, the Chancellor of the Exchequer admitted he hadn't bothered to read before voting for it.

I've also read the Lisbon Treaty.

I don't base my opinons on the second-hand flawed and skewed views of politicians or the Daily Mail / Guardian/ Telegraph.

I make up my own mind.

claig · 21/01/2014 13:28

It wasn't ttosca who said that, it was me.
And I acknowledged that posters like flatpackhamster know about these things. I don't know about them and nor does anyone I know. None of my friends has read the Maastricht Treaty and I bet that is true of the majority of people who voted UKIP in the local elections.

wetaugust · 21/01/2014 13:31

ttosca
Please accept my apology for misquoting you.

nennypops · 21/01/2014 14:37

The Daily Mail writes hit pieces on UKIP and its readers still say they are going to vote UKIP in the comments section

Never make the mistake of thinking that people who quote in the comments section online are representative of the Mail's readers. It's interesting to note that, for example, at the weekends when most of the working population is at home, their comments become noticeably more liberal leaning. The reality is that only a small minority of their readers will vote UKIP when it comes to an election, although there may well be enough to split the Conservative vote and let Labour back in.

wetaugust · 21/01/2014 14:48

I wouldn't be too sure that it would only split the Conservative vote Nennypops.

A lot of Labour voters are becoming aware that their wages are being depressed by the availability of cheap labour via immigration. Those voters may also switch their allegiance to UKIP which could affect some Labour or 3-way marginals.

I expect UKIP to win the EU elections and make a good showing in the Local elections.

At that point some Tory panic will set in and we'll hear more about the offer for a referendum in 2017 as a (pathetic) bribe to vote Tory at the next election. We'll probably see Labour move to a more anti-EU stance as they see which way the wind is blowing.

But UKIP will not gain a single seat at the the General Election.

Isitmebut · 21/01/2014 14:54

Claig….so many words, so little said, and of course the more people do hear of Ukip’s ‘values’, the clearer the boards opinion can be – unless of course with all that posting ‘noise’, you are just trying to put board space between others posts that make Ukip look too dodgy.

On that very point, after sitting here listening to your rather weak comments on weak Conservative values, regarding my post today at 10.29am and UKIP’s VALUES.

Is or is Ukip not a leading member of the far-right wing Europe of Freedom & Democracy (EFD) group as mentioned in that link??

A simple question, as if you (or Ukip) are going to ramble on and lecture re any other party’s ‘values’, I suggest that you investigate if you are on solid ground yourself.

Stones and greenhouses, come to mind.

claig · 21/01/2014 15:13

nennypops, good points. I think you are possibly right.

I will definitely vote UKIP for the Euro elections, but have still not made my mind up for the general election.

But there is a strong possibility that the Tory MPs will panic if UKIP do very well in the Euros and it may possibly lead to some kind of deal between UKIP and the Tories. We will have to wait and see.

' the more people do hear of Ukip’s ‘values’, the clearer the boards opinion can be'
Isitmebut, the board is nearly all Labour/progressives, they aren't changed by arguments about UKIP values. I am explaining why I vote for them and why I think many others have turned to them recently.

Haldf teh Tory party members didn't sudden;y tear their membership cards up because they suddenly became aware of the Maastricht Treaty. They have had enough of being let down by the 'modernisers' some of whom may have described hardworking members as 'swivel-eyed loons'.

'Is or is Ukip not a leading member of the far-right wing Europe of Freedom & Democracy (EFD) group as mentioned in that link??'

I don't know. I don't keep up to date with what they are up to in the European Parliament. All I know is that the leadership of UKIP does not espouse far right views and I have read recently that UKIP has refused to join with the group that Marine le Pen and Wilders are setting up.

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