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Nigel Farage expels entire UKIP membership for bringing party into disrepute

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ttosca · 19/01/2014 19:25

The entire membership of UKIP across Britain – including councillors, MEPs and grassroots activists- has been expelled from the party following a hearing in front of a UKIP disciplinary panel in London.

Details of the reasons for the expulsions have not been disclosed, but party leader Nigel Farage confirmed to the media that it was in response to allegations that the entire membership was full of intolerant, narrow-minded, crackpot dingbats who pretend to be libertarian but in fact simply don’t like foreigners and homosexuals much.

In response to the mass expulsions, the former UKIP membership said they “feel sickened” at the way they had been treated and planned to appeal against the decision.

Immediately after the expulsions, the disciplinary panel members announced they had also expelled themselves from the party for bringing the party into disrepute, leaving Mr Farage as the sole UKIP member.

tompride.wordpress.com/2014/01/19/nigel-farage-expels-entire-ukip-membership-for-bringing-party-into-disrepute/

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nennypops · 21/01/2014 18:11

I really question whether Farage is the brilliant speaker people claim. When he is up against someone who does his homework on TV debates Farage's weaknesses are regularly exposed. And, as he demonstrated in Scotland, he can be easily rattled. I despise Clegg but I think in a Leaders' debate he would walk all over Farage.

claig · 21/01/2014 18:15

I'm not sure, nenny. I haven't seen farage in one-to-one debates, you may be right.

Clegg is a smoothie, a spinner, but no, he's a good actor but I don't think his heart is in it unless it is more EU integration and more windfarms.

Isitmebut · 21/01/2014 18:17

Dear, dear me…re the previous page, is this what Ukippers, the real ‘nasty’ party belonging to a racist far right wing group in Europe, with no different UK policies of their own, DOES all day, salivating at their own made up stories about other political parties? Lol
www.efdgroup.eu/members/by-member-states/category/united-kingdom.html

FYI real Tories would apparently rather eat their own arm, than be in any coalition with Ukip, as why reward a noisy cult with no policies – and apparently their supporters (confirmed by Claig) don’t care?

As the Farage Youth Movement is that undiscerning, other political parties have just written them off as irrelevant, and concentrate on the far greater sized population that used do follow politics and vote, and have clear differences in the main political parties to chose from. Better the two ideologies on offer, rather than the Ukip policy ‘flip flop’ party, with a leader with ‘more style over substance’

But don’t take my word for it, as Claig so likes Daily Mail articles for feeling the Tory pulse, this was a month ago
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2525968/Have-voters-fallen-love-Nigel-Farage-Collapse-ratings-UKIP-leader-seen-style-substance.html
"Have voters fallen out of love with Nigel Farage? Collapse in ratings for UKIP leader who is seen as 'more style than substance'
• Net satisfaction falls from peak of 11% in May to -13% in November
• Pollsters say the more voters see politicians, the less they like them
• UKIP cemented poll lead over Lib Dems and eyes victory in Euro elections
• 46% say Farage is 'more style than substance', 16% say 'good in a crisis'

nennypops · 21/01/2014 18:22

Some of my favourite bits from the manifesto:

UKIP would celebrate the "Last Night of the Proms" as an example of good humoured British pride
Anyone who has ever watched it could tell you that that is exactly what happens now.

The BBC and the British Film Council will have their remits altered to back films that promote British values and British talent and locations. They will not be allowed to back films that denigrate, attack or oppose British values. .... UK Film Council backed films such as ‘Merchant of Venice’, ‘Ladies in Lavender’, ‘The Constant Gardener’ do promote British values, and thus would qualify for Government funding.
Yes, Merchant of Venice - that would be the play set in Italy comprising Italian characters. Mind you, I guess UKIP would approve of the treatment of Shylock.

We would welcome a return to traditional British headdress and uniforms for the police and armed forces. UKIP would also welcome the replacement of US-style baseball caps from all public services, particularly the police and armed forces, with traditional British headdress. UKIP will encourage a return to proper dress for major hotels, restaurants and theatres - smarter dress is part of Britishness, although it is also a British virtue to encourage innovation in fashion.
What on earth is "traditional British headdress" for the police and armed forces? Please tell me they're not going to make bobbies wear helmets and soldiers wear tin hats and busbies all the time.

Apart from anything else, it's the nanny state to the nth degree. But it gets more chilling when they describe various people in public life with whose views they disagree as "a cancer in the body politic" and therefore to be excised from it. That's McCarthyism at best.

claig · 21/01/2014 18:30

Have you not read the comments underneath that article?

"What a joke"
"You wish"
"UKIP will do for me"

The Daily Mail reader, barometer of the nation, is rarely wrong.

What are the figures for the other leaders? Where are they?

I used to be a Tory, I was a Thatcherite, but reading your posts has confirmed it for me, I am not a "real Tory", you are.

Rooftop wind turbines?
As Duncan Ballantyne would say
"On that basis, I'm out"

I'm now UKIP, thanks for helping me come to that decision.

claig · 21/01/2014 18:35

'Apart from anything else, it's the nanny state to the nth degree.'

Good point.
I still do retain some of my former real Toryness.

I don't like "nanny state". Are you sure this was not a misprint or on some socialist spoof site?

wetaugust · 21/01/2014 18:50

I despise Clegg but I think in a Leaders' debate he would walk all over Farage.

That made me laugh. Wimpy little Cleggy would shit himself if he had to debate with Farage Grin

I guess I wasn't really a Tory either then (like Claig) when I voted for Mrs T in 1979.

FYI real Tories would apparently rather eat their own arm, than be in any coalition with Ukip

I guess all those fully paid up members of the Tory Party and party benefactors that left to join the Referendum Party weren't actually Tories either.

You seem to have a very blinkered view of Conservatism. There is a very large number of members who would prefer the UK to be out of the EU and some who put that goal at the top of their political priority list. If the way to achieve that goal was coalition with UKIP they would accept that. I doubt the UKIP members would though.

flatpackhamster · 21/01/2014 18:56

nennypops
I've seen the original (of the 2010 manifesto), thanks, and I really wasn't exaggerating.

Doubtless you can quote verbatim where the UKIP manifesto says that Jews will be stripped of their property rights because they're untermensch.

claig · 21/01/2014 19:00

'A survey of over 800 party members by ConservativeHome found 34% backed a pact with Ukip for the 2015 general election. Thirty-three per cent oppose such a move and 33% want to put off the decision for now.'

and these are members, mugs who actually pay fees to be insulted by modernisers, the 'Notting Hill Set', the 'Ant Hill Mob' from the Wacky Faces and Dastardly and Muttley and who are more progressive than Tony Blair and have rooftop wind turbines installed on their houses?

No wonder Tory voters have abandoned them.

www.politics.co.uk/news/2013/05/06/yearning-for-ukip-tories-tempted-by-pact-offer

claig · 21/01/2014 19:03

Some of these poor mugs who join up probably get thank you letters saying

'Dear Swivel-eyed Loon,

Thank you for your contribution to party coffers. We will make good use of it as we intend to buy the latest rooftop wind turbine for Central Office.

ttosca · 21/01/2014 19:04

Listen to the UKIP Shipping Forecast:

soundcloud.com/nicholas-pegg/ukip-shipping-forecast

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wetaugust · 21/01/2014 19:07

As much as 34% professing support for a coalition? I am surprised. There will always be the Ken Clarke element within the Tories that want more EU integration. And there will always be thise who would vote for a whippet if you stuck a blue rossette on it.

So maybe not so surprising after all.

I find it quite amazing that the Tory party has not totally imploded over Europe. It's managed to keep itself together for decades now with this huge rift dividing the membership.

I suspect there's an element of dual UKIP/Tory membership going on.

flatpackhamster · 21/01/2014 19:08

nennypops

Some of my favourite bits from the manifesto:

Not one word of that is in the manifesto. Not. One. Word.

I'm looking at the 2010 GE Manifesto now. It's not in there. Any of it.

ttosca · 21/01/2014 19:10

No, but really - listen to the UKIP Shipping Forecast! ;)

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claig · 21/01/2014 19:11

wetaugust, wait until the Euro elections. The Tories will be wiped out. Who in their right mind is actually going to walk to the polling station and put a cross against one of their candidates.

There is a "revolt of the people" going on and Central Office hasn't got a clue how big a tide this really is.

They have got their head in the sand a wind turbine on their roof.

flatpackhamster · 21/01/2014 19:11

Yawwwwwwwnnnn

You are a tiresome little troll, aren't you?

claig · 21/01/2014 19:12

'No, but really - listen to the UKIP Shipping Forecast! ;)'

It was linked to above. yes it is funny.

wetaugust · 21/01/2014 19:13

I listene to the Shipping Forecast.

Do you get a kick out of hearing the word 'gay' abused in this way?

wetaugust · 21/01/2014 19:34

wait until the Euro elections. The Tories will be wiped out.

They won't be wiped out - honestly Claig, they won't.

Who in their right mind is actually going to walk to the polling station and put a cross against one of their candidates.

Lots of people Claig. Not everyone has been swept along by your enthusiasm.

There is a "revolt of the people" going on and Central Office hasn't got a clue how big a tide this really is.

The European elections are pretty meaningless as the MEPs have virtually no power anyway so I doubt anyone in CO is getting their knickers in a twist about them.

UKIP will probably pick up a few local election seats - but hardly a power base.

claig · 21/01/2014 19:47

You may be right. Newspapers are saying that it might be the LibDems who are wiped out in the European elections.

I think the European elections this time are epoch-changing because of what is going to happen all over Europe.

It will be the French who will end the European Union. I never thought I would see the day that the elite's project would collapse, but I am starting to think that it could really happen. And when it collapses, all of the "green crap" will crumble overnight. We are now living in historic times. Such a change has not been seen for decades and no one knows what the elite will do.

This is what Marine Le Pen has been quoted as saying

“Europe is an anomaly” in the world, this empire will soon break down like the former USSR.”

and

She said the Berlin Wall had fallen and she wanted to “bring the Brussels wall down” as well.

“I expect one thing only from the European system and that's for it to explode,” she said. “We have to wait for everything to fall flat on its face, contribute to that if possible, to bring about the project of a Europe of free nations.”

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/frances-marine-le-pen-wants-her-farright-party-to-join-forces-with-ukip-and-destroy-european-soviet-union-9050291.html

The European elections are more worrying for the elites of Europe than national elections because if the EU collapses then all of their other plans such as the "green crap" and even certain aspects of globalisation will collapse too.

ttosca · 21/01/2014 19:58

Just like a parrot.

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wetaugust · 21/01/2014 20:00

There are too many entities with too much at stake to let the EU pull itself apart. Obama 'instructed' us to sort out our differences with our fellow our EU, the big car makers in the UK say they'll go elsewhere if we withdraw from the EU, the politicians all want second careeres in Brussels after they've been rejected by their national voters, .......

Germany and France have both had elections in the last few years but have not returned anti-EU Govts.

I had hoped that one day we would get rid of this parasite but nowadays I think we are stuck with it. It'll be the Euro that brings it down - not a political reawakening.

Meanwhile the French and the Germans will aim for ever deeper EU integration and we'll persue our aim of even broader integration (because broader integration weakens and prohibits deeper integration).

claig · 21/01/2014 20:03

You are right that Obama wants the EU to survive and that is very important. But I think that France is the country to watch.

I don't know enough about what is going on in France, but their socialist President is very unpopular.

Do any of our French-based MNers know what is likely to happen in France?

wetaugust · 21/01/2014 20:17

French PMs are always unpopular. They hated Szarkozy too.

It's Germany that holds the key i.e. funding for this stupid experiment. As long as the Germans continue to fund it it will limp on.

And the Germans can't stop funding it because if they did so there would no market within Europe for their German-produced goods.

And so the vicious cycle is perpetuated.

claig · 21/01/2014 20:27

Yes, good point. It has favoured Germany and harmed some other countries.

It looks like the Germans must keep it going because according to Vince Cable, if the EU unravels, "the consequences will be absolutely incalculable"

"Mr Cable told an audience at the Cheltenham Literary Festival: 'I think we need to take stock that if the eurozone were to unravel in a way that destroyed the European project - and there is a risk that could happen - the consequences would be absolutely incalculable.

'We tend to forget, until we were reminded last week of that Nobel Prize, the European project was constructed in order to rescue Europe from extreme nationalism and conflict. There is no automatic guarantee that won't return.' The Business Secretary described the euro as 'very valuable' and said the UK would 'be heard very loudly if it does unravel'.
He added: 'My sense is that the Germans in particular realise how much is at stake. A series of sensible measures have been taken in recent months.

'I think deep down there is enough common sense and a sense of survival to prevent this getting out of control. If it does, I'm afraid the consequences for us will be awful.'

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2217672/Europe-plunged-war-euro-collapses-says-Cable-warns-awful-consequences.html

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