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Nigel Farage expels entire UKIP membership for bringing party into disrepute

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ttosca · 19/01/2014 19:25

The entire membership of UKIP across Britain – including councillors, MEPs and grassroots activists- has been expelled from the party following a hearing in front of a UKIP disciplinary panel in London.

Details of the reasons for the expulsions have not been disclosed, but party leader Nigel Farage confirmed to the media that it was in response to allegations that the entire membership was full of intolerant, narrow-minded, crackpot dingbats who pretend to be libertarian but in fact simply don’t like foreigners and homosexuals much.

In response to the mass expulsions, the former UKIP membership said they “feel sickened” at the way they had been treated and planned to appeal against the decision.

Immediately after the expulsions, the disciplinary panel members announced they had also expelled themselves from the party for bringing the party into disrepute, leaving Mr Farage as the sole UKIP member.

tompride.wordpress.com/2014/01/19/nigel-farage-expels-entire-ukip-membership-for-bringing-party-into-disrepute/

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claig · 20/01/2014 15:24

Of course the establishment's tactics are backfiring.
The more puppets and revolutionary socialists that are gathered together to shout "bawbag", the more jokes about muppets, the more ridicule, the more ordinary people are revolting and turning to UKIP in droves.

Propaganda only works of it is subtle and the attacks on UKIP are unsubtle and that is why the public are sticking their fingers up to the establishment.

This is not just happening here, it is occurring all over Europe.

claig · 20/01/2014 15:30

The media scream "racist" about UKIP, just as the BBC scream "climate catastrophe" and "polar bear" about the "planet". But both forms of propaganda are failing in the same way because they are taking the people for mugs and the people are rewarding them with two fingers.

claig · 20/01/2014 15:32

After UKIP sweep the European elections, the media's propaganda against UKIP will hit hysterical fever pitch, all of the PPEs and the great and the good will be employed full time to try and stop the people's revolt.

But they will fail because contempt for democracy and for ordinary people always fail.

slug · 20/01/2014 15:35

'Can anyone explain why the media is so flipping obsessed with UKIP?'

Because they fulfill the Katie Hopkins space in news reporting i.e. the slightly bonkers commentators who allow the other commentators to appear sane in comparison.

Isitmebut · 20/01/2014 15:36

Claig….I’d suggest that the Daily Mail headline is about right, as if Ukip want to be seen as a mainstream party, both their policies and candidates will come under increasing scrutiny the closer we get to elections – and that is right, unless a party is trying to hide behind banal rhetoric e.g. “the peoples revolt”, rather than project the main reasons voters should support them.

On that subject, Ukip has deleted their 2010 General Election manifesto from their website, why?

I found a bullet summary on the Beeb and I particularly like their plans back then to electrify THREE new train lines to the North. Could it be they want to oppose HS2, for electoral reasons, rather than ‘cost’ as the country was so much richer back in 2010?

The cutting of the Public Sector to 1997 numbers and sending them into manufacturing was a doozy, no doubt transported by train, under armed guard.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8617187.stm

claig · 20/01/2014 15:36

They won't allow Farage in the TV leaders' debates, just as Cameron will not directly debate Salmond.

It's the same game, but the public are not mugs and they wonder why they are afraid to debate democraticaly.

slug · 20/01/2014 15:44

"After UKIP sweep the European elections"

You lost me after that point. I was laughing so hard.

claig · 20/01/2014 15:48

Isitmebut, you misunderstand the appeal of UKIP to millions of citizens.

They are not "mainstream2, they are not 2establishment", they are not "puppets". They are the party of the people, the party of the people's revolt.

The public understand that and that is why they vote for them against the parties of the puppets and that is why whatever "close scrutiny" the BBC and the PPEs and the bigwigs and the great and the good do over UKIP policies will fail, because the public is past caring, the public has had enough.

That is why the Daily Mail said

"the revolt of the voters is serious"

It is very serious, it is in fact a crisis, because the public has lost faith in the elites, it no longer believes them on what they call "global warming" and attacks on Syria or much else.

Why do you think that the hug-a-husky moderniser Cameron was reported to have said "cut the green crap". It is desperate, the estblishment understands that teh people have lost faith and it is trying to get them back in their pen.

Isitmebut · 20/01/2014 15:55

Slug…unfortunately Claig is correct about UKip sweeping the 2014 EU Elections, as due to apathy we are going to sent a bunch of muppets on £180k a year to Brussels to ‘protest’ – unless people take the time to vote for the BEST candidate, whichever party, as I’ve explain on the ‘Politics’ board here.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/politics/1968780-EU-Elections-2014-time-to-finally-vote-for-the-BEST-MEP-candidates

PacificDogwood · 20/01/2014 15:59

ttosca, I am so disappointed that 'too good to be true' once again was the case [disappointed].

And I see the Hamster and claig have arrived - I am off to listen to the Shipping Forecast; sounds good.

claig · 20/01/2014 16:02

I thought ttosca's article was very funny and very clever. It is excellent, brilliant. But, Tom Pride, the blogger who wrote, it probably doesn't understand that jokes like that only attract more people to vote UKIP.

Isitmebut · 20/01/2014 16:03

Claig…the Leaders debate is meant to be about policies, from political parties with at least one seat in the UK parliament, not lessons in slippery.

So while Ukip is a party that needs to delete its manifestos and ‘flip flop’ policies as the political winds change, why should Cameron give him air-time?

Why should Cameron give Salmon air time on Scottish nationalism, this is about Scotland deciding its future, not the Uk Parliament.

PacificDogwood · 20/01/2014 16:05

UKIP councillor blames recent flooding on gay marriage - you could not make this stuff up

claig · 20/01/2014 16:06

'unless people take the time to vote for the BEST candidate'

But Isitmebut, democracy is about people deciding for themselves who the BEST candidate is. The more that the BBC and the talking heads and the PPEs try to tell them whom to vote for, the more people will revolt.

To defeat UKIP, the system must have the courage to take them on and debate with them in public and to beat them if they can. Insults and jokes will backfire, and the more they attack Farage, the more he must be loving it, because the higher his popularity will grow.

claig · 20/01/2014 16:11

'Why should Cameron give Salmon air time on Scottish nationalism'

It's not Scottish nationalism, it's about Scottish independence, and Cameron has said that he disagrees with Salmond.

Scottish independence is a very serious issue that will have major consequences for millions of people and for England as well as Scotland. So if Cameron believes that he is right, then over such an important issue with such important consequences he should have the courage to debate Salmond.

Salmond will make mincemeat of Darling. So for an important issue, I think Cameron should debate Salmond.

claig · 20/01/2014 16:13

Both Salmond and Farage are very clever and great speakers and performers. Democracy is about ideas and debate and allowing the people to decide which arguments make more sense.

slug · 20/01/2014 16:17
Isitmebut · 20/01/2014 16:34

Claig....I am all for democracy and people making their minds up, but if only an average of 37% have bothered to vote in either of the two last EU MEP elections, it is NOT happening if Ukip is getting elected by just over 1/3rd of the people on a platform THAT THEY CANNOT DELIVER!!!!!

I'm all for Ukip telling us how they CAN deliver the UK leaving the EU, but judging by your response, THEY CAN'T, so what is the point of listening to their bluster???

claig · 20/01/2014 16:40

Because that is the democratic system that we have. People are free to vote and free not to vote, despite New Labour's Peter Hain who was in favour of making voting compulsory.

We have the system we have and we have the people we have and if they decide to listen to "bluster" then that is their prerogative. Heaven knows they were forced to listen to more than their fair share of "bluster" when New Labour reigned for 13 years. I mean how many times did they have to listen to inanities like "we have only 50 days left to sabe the planet"?

We are where we are, we are who we are and as Ivana Trump once famously said on Big Brother, "it is wot it is".

flatpackhamster · 20/01/2014 16:54

PacificDogwood

UKIP councillor blames recent flooding on gay marriage - you could not make this stuff up.

As I have asked earlier - why wasn't this man news when he was a Tory councillor? Isn't it just extraordinary how his views suddenly became fascinating to the left-wing commentariat now he's joined UKIP.

flatpackhamster · 20/01/2014 16:56

Isitmebut

I'm all for Ukip telling us how they CAN deliver the UK leaving the EU, but judging by your response, THEY CAN'T, so what is the point of listening to their bluster???

There are a couple of ways that the UK could leave the EU. The most sensible one is to invoke article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty. The least sensible is simply to revoke the '72 Communities Act.

PacificDogwood · 20/01/2014 16:57

If he publicly expressed views like this when he was a Tory councillor, then yes, of course he should've been news-worthy then.
As should anybody else of any party who spouts illogical, irresponsible and hate-mongering stuff from a position of elected power. I hope the LibDems are listening... Hmm

claig · 20/01/2014 16:59

flatpack, it's not just the left-wing commentariat, they are only the TweeedleDum of the establishment, but it was also the Daily Mail and all of the TweedleDee of the establishment too.

But the people are not mugs, they know the game and they can see through it. In fact lots of them switched off years ago and don't even listen to the spin anymore.

That is why the spin and the spinners are losing their influence over the public's mind.

Isitmebut · 20/01/2014 17:08

Flatpackhamster

"There are a couple of ways that the UK could leave the EU. The most sensible one is to invoke article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty. The least sensible is simply to revoke the '72 Communities Act."

Fantastic, finally someone who don't sound like a Borg Drone, so why haven't Ukip "invoked"or ""revoked, and would more MEP seats in May 2014 help the invoke/revoke process???

slug · 20/01/2014 17:18

why wasn't this man news when he was a Tory councillor?

Because he didn't feel free enough to make these bat shit claims when he was a tory councillor. UKIP freed him up to spout the poison with impunity

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