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guide to scientology birth..

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bundle · 29/03/2006 11:20

\link{http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1741763,00.html#article_continue...as Tom n Katie await their very own little l ron hubbard..}
(favourite bit: "By the way, life in the womb is not the paradise it has been presented as. Instead "the womb is wet, uncomfortable and unprotected")

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bl0ndie · 29/03/2006 15:17

thats right bundle, what an ar$eh**l. men like that make me so angry controlling women like that Angry

kama · 29/03/2006 15:19

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edam · 29/03/2006 15:24

'say nothing around a sick or injured child' WTF? So if your child is hurt you aren't supposed to reassure them? This is appalling.

Callisto · 29/03/2006 15:25

Feel so sorry for the poor baby who will suffer most by being separated from the one person he needs most.

ruty · 29/03/2006 15:25

she was silent all the way thru and then was separated from her baby for 7 days Kama! Shock

kama · 29/03/2006 15:26

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kama · 29/03/2006 15:29

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tortoiseshell · 29/03/2006 15:35

There are other bizarre things - if a child bangs its head on a door, (this is the example they give) then a parent should not comfort the child, they should hold the child's head against the door so that the hurt can flow back into the door.

The silent birth thing - it's the being compelled to that is the problem - I was pretty well silent for dd's birth, but that is because I'm a 'bury my head in the bed' type person rather than a 'scream in pain' person' - I do think people react differently, and I'm definitely a curl up in a ball and hide. But I can't imagine being forced to be silent, or for the other adults present to have to be silent. Interestingly, people don't have to be silent in the 9 months up to the birth, which is a bit of a fatal flaw in the argument I think!

suzywong · 29/03/2006 15:49

Just read the link

What a crock of s*&t, I find it unfathomable that anyone can buy into this utter fabrication and manipulative hogwash.

Other religions I can undertand, the deity aspect, the loaves and fishes stuff, the purple robes and the prayer wheels; but a fat bloke called Ron? Unbelievable

Feistybird · 29/03/2006 15:56

wired to the moon.

Uwila · 29/03/2006 16:04

Tom Cruise IS the engram. I can respect most people's religeous beliefs. But you have to be bloomin stupid to subscribe to what I just read.

If the man uses language during sex... eh? That ain't science.

Uwila · 29/03/2006 16:06

Do you think that one day Nicole and Katy might be friends and talk about what a weirdo their X is? Surely Katy isn't going to stay with him for long if he makes her do this.

What a weirdo.

bundle · 29/03/2006 16:15
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monkeytrousers · 29/03/2006 20:35

So lets get this right

while having sex - be silent (no dirty talk then!)

while being sick - be silent

while giving birth - be silent

while being silent - be sure to ask for help if you need it (on a pre prepared poster perhaps?)

if your child is injured - be silent

if your child falls down and hurts themselves - be silent

but do not shush someone into silence

and finally,

while being silent - be sure to be very silent (turn that brain music down!)

OH MY GOD

Blandmum · 29/03/2006 20:42

Let us all just remember that this is the sect that think that some of their number have been , in previous lives, killed by my good self, driving a steam roller. Another is convinced that s/he was once and intergalactic Walrus that died while falling out of a space ship. L Ron Hubbard printed this stuff in a book (not one of his novels btw)

Sanity is a stranger to this sect

Blandmum · 29/03/2006 20:46

To amuse and amaze you all at the insanity!

This is from a Wikipedia entry on scientology

'In the confidential OT levels, Hubbard describes a variety of traumas commonly experienced in past lives. He also explains how to reverse the effects of such traumas. Among these advanced teachings, one episode revealed to those who reach OT level III has been widely remarked upon in the press: the story of Xenu, the galactic tyrant who first kidnapped certain individuals who were deemed "excess population" and loaded these individuals into space planes for transport to the site of extermination, the planet of Teegeeack (Earth). These space planes were said to have been copies of Douglas DC-8s, except with rocket engines. He then stacked hundreds of billions of these frozen victims around Earth's volcanoes 75 million years ago before blowing them up with hydrogen bombs and brainwashing them with a "three-D, super colossal motion picture" for 36 days, telling them lies of what they are and what the universe should be like and telling them that they are 3 different things: 'Jesus, God, and The Devil.' The traumatized thetans subsequently clustered around human bodies because they watched the motion picture together, making them think they are all the same thing, in effect acting as invisible spiritual parasites known as "body thetans" that can only be removed using advanced Scientology techniques. Xenu is allegedly imprisoned in a mountain by a force field powered by an eternal battery. He is said to be still alive today.

Scientologists argue that published accounts of the Xenu story and other colorful teachings are presented out of context for the purpose of ridiculing their religion. Journalists and critics of Scientology counter that Xenu is part of a much wider Scientology belief in past lives on other planets, some of which has been public knowledge for decades. For instance, Hubbard's 1958 book Have You Lived Before This Life documents past lives described by individual Scientologists during auditing sessions. These included memories of being "deceived into a love affair with a robot decked out as a beautiful red-haired girl", being run over by a Martian bishop driving a steamroller, being transformed into an intergalactic walrus that perished after falling out of a flying saucer, and being "a very happy being who strayed to the planet Nostra 23,064,000,000 years ago".'

HappyMumof2 · 29/03/2006 21:07

I read that KH had been told by members of the sect that she was 'surrounded by traumatised aliens' wtf?!

PinkTulips · 29/03/2006 21:08

ROFL at this cr*p!

hope she screams her lungs out like us mortals do. nothing like a good yell to propel baby down birth canal Wink

just out of curiosity what engams(sp?) does it send my unborn child when dd jumps on my stomach or knees baby in the head 200 times a day?

motherinferior · 29/03/2006 21:08

Aha: "deceived into a love affair with a robot decked out as a beautiful red-haired girl". Could this just possibly be something Our Tom thinks has also happened to him?

Blandmum · 29/03/2006 21:09

Don't mock! I have my steamroller revved up and ready to go!

martian Bishop

Rhubarb · 29/03/2006 21:16

bollocksy crap!

monkeytrousers · 29/03/2006 21:19

Oh, good one MI! (I was only joking about you being boring BTW. cheesy Grin

motherinferior · 29/03/2006 21:19

He makes me Ashamed to be a Shortarse.

SleepyJess · 29/03/2006 21:20

I like to think I am tolerent of and interested in many apsects of many other faiths... but.. but.... engrams my fat white butt!!

motherinferior · 29/03/2006 21:20

(I am boring. Went out the other night and kept waiting for someone to ask me about the Inferiorettes. I ended up arguing about punctuation, ffs Blush.)