Bubble asked me to post this.........................We are trying to decide whether Heather Mills......................

[LadySherlockofLGJ]

has totally lost the plot.

She has more mad ideas than any woman I have ever known.

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aha

makes sense now

mojomummy - what do you recommend as an alternative?

a nutritionist?

then how come you don't know about small children needing fats?

My dh just read some of this thread and he said ...

Actually, I'm not going to repeat what he said.

Actually I'm well impressed that it took nearly 12 hours to get around to Paula Radcliffe and Ellen McArthur. Must be a bit of a record.

Mojomummy - that was a serious question BTW - what do you recommend?

Sorry - reseaching my family tree..

1. you don't need milk to supply calcium, & in fact the more milk you drink, the more calcium you need - vegans don't drink cows milk, yet their requirements (providing they eat a balanced diet) are significantly less than a milk drinker.

2. Suggestion instead of milk ? Anything non-animal.

Does it matter that HM is something to do with PETA etc etc ? The fact is, we take for granted everything we are told - not willing to get into a slanging match about pros & cons, but don't just dismiss articles like this. Research alternatives & make an informed decision.

I rather like the idea of the hemp milk...

I'd like to know too. An equally rich form of calcium which is as accessible and cheap as dairy?

If people were able to think outside the box for a minute, it's not so outlandish an idea to give up, or even cut down on, dairy.

I mean, veggies and vegans don't always attempt to replicate the diets of their omniverous friends with Fish-ish Fingers or Chicken-style curry do they? Why should we need to 'replace' milk with something similar. We're all just in the habit of having way too much dairy and perhaps it might be a good idea to cut it out or cut down. I have and will continue to.

Nuts, pulses, leafy stuff ... all calcium rich. Hang on I'll dig out the link.

Calcium is essential though, SM, it is not optional or replaceable and it is fair to ask what other sources are as easy to buy/use by my elderly mother who lives in the middle of nowhere and whose local shop is a Spar.

\link{http://www.interlog.com/%20john13/recipes/calcium.htm\Lots of perfectly good sources of calcium.}

((leafy stuff not too great in a cup of tea, either ))

I suspect she'd find a pint of milk easier to deal with.

For kids though 'nuts, pulses, leafy stuff' doesn't really cut it does it?

Ds2 loves his porridge for instance so you do need to replace with something similar.

Eurch! Pussy old milk it tea? Or coffee for that matter. I don't understand it.

(Actually I have cappucinos out so I'm a bit of a hypocrite. I had to mention this in case sunnyDelight is lurking.)

My milkman nearly had a coronary when I wanted to switch to organic - gawd knows what would happen if I asked him for hemp

My kids totally eat nuts, pulses, leafy green stuff and always have. Why wouldn't they?

Mine don't - not for breakfast anyway

(quick hijack - bubble am still planning to head down your way in the next few months, and are you on msn by any chance?)

'Always have' is the key phrase, I suspect.

Mine will too, but lots won't or can't as the local Spar doesn't stock it.

What? No kale, hemp and buckwheat pancakes for breakfast round yours then sugar?

'fraid not, CM. It doesn't work for me for some reason. CAT me and I'll email, slow but sure.