Woman raped after getting kicked off bus at 3am

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Is this just a another shit example of the selfish society? Could the bus driver or one of the other passengers not just given her the 20p she needed for her fare?

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This isn't about whether it was a woman who people didn't help. Who gives a shit whether it was her (or his) fault that she was 20p out on her fare? Or if she (or he) was bladdered? Or even being arsey? Just someone give them the money so everyone can get home and get on with the rest of their lives. Forget about teaching them a lesson. It's 20p, ffs. Pay it for the peace, if nothing else.

Oh, and that rapist should have been locked up years ago. There is no way on earth this was his first offence. That he had not been caught or convicted is horrendous.

It seems that the bus driver was disciplined for his actions that night, and that he did not adhere to his training.

If anything good is coming out of this, it is the fact that police intend to work with the bus companies to make the city centre safer. I know that in my city, police are very proactive, and have a 'get home safe' campaign, which works in partnership with pubs, buses and taxis.

Poor, poor girl. I wonder how many other people he has done this to? Quite apart from the horror of the rape, her injuries must have been terrible if she required surgery.

I genuinely wonder how the bus driver and other passengers are feeling at the moment given the media publicity?

'What was going on in those 8 minutes? '

Why don't they release the CCTV film and pixel out the faces. If she got 'arsey' then that would be normal at 3 am if you explained that you would go to a cashpoint and that your mum would meet you at the end and pay, and if you had tried doing this for 8 minutes.

'The driver didn't follow his training'

That is the whole point. They have to be trained to deal with passengers - whether they are drunk, arsey or whatever - and part of their training should be to understand the risks involved in refusing to take people at 3 am.

If the same thing happened to the same driver again, do you think he would behave in the same way? If not, then that shows that the company should provide training for these cases so that this never happens again.

To cover the cost of teh small percentage of passengers that can't pay, they could increase fares slightly for everyone during the day and take out an insurance policy to cover lost fares. They should not be allowed to operate unless they acccepted these conditions, in my opinion.

rulers do you have corroborated info to substantiate rapist has done so before? have you contacted police?or are you just guessing and talking out your arse

Such a horrible story. 20p is such a small amount, I can't believe that there was no one who could give her that, or for the bus driver to just waive it.

this is an awful case. i feel so sorry for the woman and i hope the people on the bus and driver have reflected on their behaviour too.
as an aside, i always pay the extra pennies when a kid, or homeless person or mentally ill person etc doesn't have fare..if only to proceed with the journey quickly..and also i remember being forced to get off a bus around age 9 on a dark winter evening as a few pence short of change, one of the other passengers got off to give me the money and the driver drove off but i was so grateful and it has stuck in my mind this is the right thing to do.

Claig fares are already extortionate!

Out of my arse, sm. I didn't think you were all that keen on the whole links to research stuff, so I won't bother.

why should daytime passengers incur extra cost for free night buses
life us tight enough with additional levy in bus fares to provide free buses

the bus company syas that "he did not follow his training"

sounds like scapegoating to me.

'why should daytime passengers incur extra cost for free night buses'

because otherwise people can end up in vulnerable positions at 3 am and end upo being raped, mugged, knifed or murdered. As a community, we should all minimise the risks to the relatively few people that travel at 3 am, and if that means paying 5p more for a ticket, I think that is a price worth paying. But frankly, I think teh bus company should consider that a running cost and take a smaller profit. They can cut the cost of their canteen or other costs to pay for it. If they don't like it, then open it to tender and give it to a company that can guarantee it.

'he did not follow his training'

Have they explained what this training entails and what he should have done in the circumstances? This must be of concern to the public in that area and I am sure they would like to be reassured about the training and what it entails.

want to voluntarily pay more?send donation to bus company.sure they'll accept it. I don't think other people need go incur a blanket cost for free night buses from 1-6am

'A spokesperson for the company said: "Our drivers are well known for looking after people and there have been many examples of exceptional service by our teams, even including paying their own customers' fares out of their own pocket.

"Sadly on this occasion this did not happen and our driver did not follow his training.'

So they do sometimes allow people on without the full fare. They either top it up themselves or maybe take other action.

'want to voluntarily pay more?send donation to bus company.sure they'll accept it. I don't think other people need go incur a blanket cost for free night buses from 1-6am'

My one donation wouldn't cover it, but a tax deduction from your salary would help.

given you're so concerned you and looked minded folk can get a dd from salary to contribute to free night bus

I suppose you think they should turn street lighting of at 3 am as well, in order to save taxpayers money. There are some costs that are essential for the community's safety.

'given you're so concerned you and looked minded folk can get a dd from salary to contribute to free night bus'

No, I believe we're all in this together, so I prefer to ensure that you pay your fair share as well.

so send donation to bus company toward free night bus
I if course shall not, and I don't think they will be queue of others making voluntary donation to free bus

That's why I don't think it should be voluntary, I prefer that they make you pay.

Claig - you won't want to live near me then last bus runs at 10pm and no street light either

if you're so altruistic you make first payment
online petition
just giving page

I know, BlackOutTheSun, that is how successive governments have cut community services and even put public safety at risk, while they ring-fenced and even increased foreign aid paid out of our taxes, and spent our taxes on Olympics and lots of other very expensive schemes that do not benefit communities.

'if you're so altruistic you make first payment
online petition
just giving page'

I don't want it to be voluntary, I want to make sure they get your money too.

Its not the wild fucking west. We dont need free night buses.