We Believe You - continued

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The old thread was full. It was the first of a few I think.

Thanks Geekette. The only ref I've seen to the acquittal of the other chap more or less said he was acquitted because she got in the taxi with him and he's a footballer and what did she expect was going to happen . I have assumed that there was a bit more than this behind the jury's decision

Actually I don't feel sorry for the girlfriend one iota. Even if her had 'just cheated' on her it would be wrong. but he didn't, he RAPED someone. \A jury believe it, what's to stand by?

I believe her.

I believe her.

I must admit I too am shocked that the girlfriend is standing by him, and apparently so is the girlfriends father. I suppose it's a 'head in the sand' reaction - they don't want to think that someone they love is capable of something so awful . I even feel some pity for the sister - although all the 'Chedwyn is very down, Ched is still in shock, Ched can't believe this has happened to him' posts from her make me want to shout at her asking how she thinks his victim feels

I have no sympathy what so ever for the Rapist and his scummy friends who thought a drunken girl was fair game. This is like a bloody remake of Jodie Foster's The Accused. But instead of Rednecks jeering the rapists on we have Footballers trying to film it. What the hell goes on in their tiny minds?

I still believe her, and always will.

And so the backlash begins with the Daily Fail and it's misogynistic ways reporting......Bride 'raped by husband on wedding night after she got so drunk she didn't want sex'

How they like a good stir to keep the population at each others throats.

I believe her

I believe her

Ken Clarke said nothing of the kind last year. What he said had a lot of merit and if anything this case shows that what he said was quite pertinent. two accused one acquittal one conviction.

'most girls would want to sleep with (Evans) anyway'.

I doubt that's true anymore. Any woman with a twitter of wit or an ounce of self respect would stay far, far away from this pathetic excuse for a man and his demented family. Personally, I'm not surprised they're supporting him - he didn't lick his attitude towards women off the ground.

I believe her.

I believe her.

I believe her.

And I believe that we need to seriously address the misogynistic culture that we live in which judges women not men, when men rape women.
Too many people condone sexist behaviour, laddish behaviour, and glorify footballers and football. If we have a culture where a group of young men are adulated and paid ridiculous amounts of money and see women as disposable objects, we are creating a rape culture. In a similar way, we have gang cultures, in which young men are given undeserved respect, glorified, who see women as disposable objects, in which gang rape is common place. People need to see the connections here. It is men's behaviour that should be on trial, not rape victims.

I believe her and i've emailed the LibDems about Elvish's disgusting comments

Feel free to do the same here

I know these links were posted earlier but this thread is growing quickly.

Are people saying that they believe she doesn't remember? I've tried to find details of the case and can only find snippets of the trial in which she says she doesn't know what happened and doesn't remember. Was the footballer saying that she did remember and went willingly?

I'm surprised no one has brought up the binge drinking culture which I feel has an awful lot to do with situations like this where men openly take advantage of a woman's impaired judgement or the fact they are so drunk they don't know what's going on. Women are putting themselves in incredibly vulnerable situations and the government is not doing enough to address it.

I'm 31 now and I guess was one of the first wave of adolescents who openly binge drank, my late teens early twenties are a blur of getting drunk in clubs and pubs and on occasion waking up next to men not knowing what had happened.

I hate the way drinking until you pass out is 'normalised' in this country and I am terrified that my children are going to do the same thing.

I believe her. I hope she knows how much support she has.

I see that 9 further arrests have been made re the Twitter abuse this morning.At least it seems to be being taken seriously by the Police.A good article in this weeks Grazia too.

i believe you, and think your very brave, keep strong xx

Kushti women should be able to get so drunk they can barely walk let alone fully register where they are or what is happening to them. They should be able to do so without being raped. And without being blamed for being raped/vunerable/drunk.

I'm not saying it's sensible to do so, but they should be able to do so without risk from rape and victim blaming.

If a drunken man is mugged and beaten how many of his friends do you think would tell him "Well, if you hadn't been so drunk/been flashing your wallet about/looking like you wanted it...." etc? Victim blaming is something that only happens with crime of rape. Being drunk whilst having a crime commited against you is not limited to rape.

I believe her

D0oinMeCleanin - I absolutely agree but I think anyone getting so drunk they don't know what is happening is putting themselves in a very vulnerable situation, especially women.

I am absolutely not saying that it is the victims fault at all just that I wish there wasn't such a culture in this country of young people getting so drunk that awful things happen to them.

I lost my virginity at 14 to a much older man who gave me alcohol and ecstasy, I didn't know what was going on, so yes I hope this ruling will mean men think twice about raping women who are too drunk to know what is going on.