We Believe You - continued

[Frontpaw]

The old thread was full. It was the first of a few I think.

I believe you

I believe her.

I believe her.

ok *dollymixtures". I didn't imply it WAS allowed, I don't think.
I was just wondering how one encounter was rape and one wasn't, assuming they happened within minutes of each other with someone who was incapable of giving consent or rejection.
If the guy is guilty of rape then hell mend him. Was just looking for clarification, that's all

Girl gets pissed, goes to kebab shop and falls over, then she gets put in taxi with footballers who then take her back to hotel. Nowhere in any nes reports does it say that she picked up strangers in a bar.

I believe you

I believe her

I believe her

dementadma Both men with in the bedroom were charged with rape, but for some reason only one was found guilty.

five but that's what I mean. Why weren't they BOTH convicted of rape?

Sorry Dementedma, I didn't read your post properly just read/ heard too many people questioning whether/ how this was rape and have got a bit angry.

From what I understand the other guy was acquitted because she got into the taxi with him and therefore obviously agreed to sex too . I really hope there was more to it than that.

I believe her.

Dememntedma, she didnt pick him up in a bar, from what I have read he literally picked her up in the street while she was falling over drunk, called Ched Evans and said "ive got one" or words to that effect, and took her to the hotel room.

I presume he was not found guilty as she went with him therefore he argued consensual sex. I know my opinions on that one.

ok, thanks. just couldn't get my head round how one got off and one got charged!

I think we are on shaky ground to say that he must be guilty because a jury of his peers found him so, but the other guy 'got off' - either we respect the jury system or we don't - especially as it was the same people!

I find it odd too but I assumed there was reasonable doubt in his case so the jury weren't able to conclusively decide he was guilty.

I hope she is ok - those bastards who put her name on twitter deserve a jail sentence

I believe her

whole point about consent is you can withdraw consent at any moment your body you decide not a man

I believe her.

not saying she ever gave her consent though poor girl having gone through that then her name publised bloody disgusting.

Sorry I shouldn't have posted the above.

This thread is not about discussing the case, it is about showing we believe this woman.

I believe her.

I believe her.

The jury believed her, which is the end of the matter. He's in prison and he's having a really horrible time. Suck it up, rapist-supporting assholes.
My theory is this; football is, to certain sections of our society, the new aristocracy. They are at the top of the hierarchy, and as such entitled to total deference; challenging them or holding them to account threatens the natural order of things.
people have always liked hierarchies, of course; but you've got to feel sorry for people who feel the need to look up to pond life like Evans. at least the lord in his manor looked like someone worth admiring.