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We Believe You - continued

419 replies

Frontpaw · 01/05/2012 16:58

The old thread was full. It was the first of a few I think.

OP posts:
DMCWelshCakes · 01/05/2012 21:54

I believe her.

Anomaly · 01/05/2012 21:55

I believe her.

feralgirl · 01/05/2012 22:00

I believe her.

And MN makes me well up when it is this fantastic.

follygirl · 01/05/2012 22:01

I believe her

NovackNGood · 01/05/2012 22:04

I expect the appeal will be very interesting to watch.

Why are people so stupid that they think they can show contempt to court and get away with it by naming people with anonymity and injunctions etc. on twitter.

mamatomoo · 01/05/2012 22:04

I believe her.

NormaStanleyFletcher · 01/05/2012 22:05

I believe her

wearytraveller · 01/05/2012 22:05

I believe her.

toomuchmonthatendofthemoney · 01/05/2012 22:12

I believe her/you, I hope she/ you finds courage and strength to keep going thru all this x

LittleEsmeWeatherwax · 01/05/2012 22:13

I believe her.

DH believes her.

I hope she reads these threads. If you are, don't ever forget my lovely, that decent people BELIEVE YOU. Don't lose sight of that.

ZZZenAgain · 01/05/2012 22:14

why haven't the blogspots/other websites naming her been taken down? Some of the ones I have just seen have been running for several days. Takes one google to locate a blogspot with photo and name of the blogger on it for instance.

AnnieLobeseder · 01/05/2012 22:15

I believe her, of course I do!

I have also emailed the LibDems and commented on their FB page about Liam Elvish's disgraceful comments.

StrandedBear · 01/05/2012 22:16

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johnnycomelurky · 01/05/2012 22:17

I believe her.

I am also so full of rage over how she has been treated, I keep raging about it to anyone who will listen. I wish the woman all the best and think that she has been very brave. She has my respect.

Catmint · 01/05/2012 22:19

I believe her.

Idlegirl83 · 01/05/2012 22:24

I believe her.

LapsedPacifist · 01/05/2012 22:24

I believe her.

As an older member of MN, am absolutely furious about the reactions to, and the implications of this case. Some of us marched and demonstrated and fought tooth and nail 30+ years ago for women to get their voices HEARD in rape cases, and to overturn the legal and social culture which tolerated and accepted rape.

One of my worst nightmares would be to have a DD who supported the guilty party in this case. What a fucking tragic, delusional representative of womankind that poor brainwashed kid is. Porn-culture personified.

dollymixtures · 01/05/2012 22:24

For those of you feeling angry but impotent about this can I second the suggestion from the earlier thread to make a donation to Rape Crisis? Perhaps if that LD idiot wanted to make his 'apology' a bit more genuine he could make a goodly donation too.

boogiewoogie · 01/05/2012 22:29

I believe her.

AnonyMaw · 01/05/2012 22:32

I believe her, and thankfully the police/CPS and jury also believe her. I'm astounded that those rape apologist misogynists even exist. Sheesh...

Angry
gettingagrip · 01/05/2012 22:36

have tweeted and emailed. What a disgusting excuse for a human being is that Elvish 'person'

besmirchedandbewildered · 01/05/2012 22:59

StrandedBear I totally agree with you, she's in for one shocking epiphany.

geekette · 01/05/2012 23:05

As for those asking about how one (mcDondald, is that it?) was found not guilty and the other(Ched) was convicted, I think I understand the jury's point of view:

She got into the taxi with the first guy. she could still (kind of) walk and talk and may have consented to sex. Questionable but plausible. In any case, she was conscious (kind of).

The video, to my knowledge, was an attempt at filming the scene which didn't quite work.

The Ched guy appears on scene to have sex with the now totally legless girl. The jury, in my opinion, are right to think there was no way she was in any state to give consent to anyone at this point. She doesn't know what happened but there must have been evidence of his involvement. He also confirmed that he slept with her.

Basically, of the two that slept with her that night, only one actually saw her (barely) conscious at any point during the night. he got off, barely if you ask me. The other should have walked away if the girl was only garbling by the time he wanted his "share"...

This is what I have gleamed from the discussions. The jury know better they saw the full evidence.

Pff... I just can't believe we still live in this kind of world....

dollymixtures · 01/05/2012 23:08

Let's not turn on his girlfriend. I haven't read much about the support for Ched Evans if I'm honest (random comments from colleagues have been bad enough) but given the predatory way he behaved I wondered if actually his girlfriend is all too aware of what he's like. I doubt it's the first time he's behaved like this.

musicposy · 01/05/2012 23:16

I believe her.

I'm appalled at some of the attitudes around. We're meant to be a civilized society. Appalling that this sort of thing goes on at all, let alone that people think it's OK.