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How the name of heaven can anyone support the Tories?

238 replies

turdassmuthafukka · 30/06/2011 12:18

I just don't get it. Unless you are a heartless multimillionaire - then it makes total sense of course.

I have to turn off Radio 4 when I hear Hague?Gove et al dribbling out their blatant lies/spin/venom especially early in the morning. How on earth can ANYONE not see them for what they are?

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RobF · 02/07/2011 00:31

I do think I am 'above' people who fecklessly breed children they cannot afford to raise even at the time they are born, and who neglect their children and spend their time and money on taking drugs and drinking booze.

RobF · 02/07/2011 00:32

"Yes sold all the houses off ,so theres a housing crisis now"
Labour had 13 years to build some. Instead they presided over an unsustainable housing bubble. Yay Labour.

moondog · 02/07/2011 00:33

Electra, it is very dangerous to make assumptions and judgements about people's beliefs because of their choice of verbs.

Typical left wing attitude.
It will be arrests fro thought crime next.

electra · 02/07/2011 00:33

Definitely a 15 year old or a troll.

usualsuspect · 02/07/2011 00:35

wind up merchant

RobF · 02/07/2011 00:35

I'm 34. I post what I believe.

Given that the Tories recieved more of the vote than Labour or any other party, why is it so unbelievable that someone might support them? Or is it just that internet forums are so heavily skewed towards the left that it's a shock to you to find someone who disagrees with the usual viewpoint?

electra · 02/07/2011 00:37

oh come off it moondog. I'd rather have a typical left wing attitude then go around insulting people with bigotry but then I seem to remember from a thread long ago that you are a BNP sympathiser? Apologies if I got this wrong.

Fifis25StottieCakes · 02/07/2011 00:40

RobF

So thatcher sold off all the housing stock thus creating sink estates where people who cannot afford to own their own home are grouped together on a 'sink estate'. This is where there is a bigger turnover in available housing as nobody wants to live there.

So people who loose their jobs and loose there home who have previously worked end up on these 'sink estates' as their is no other available housing.

Im shocked you havent used the term 'chav' yet

moondog · 02/07/2011 00:40

What deos 'BNP sympathiser' mean Electra?

Why do you think I am one?

What has that got to do with this discussion?

Can you point me to legislation which makes it illegal to support the BNP?

electra · 02/07/2011 00:41

RobF..........Iraq had already left Labour unpopular. Gordon Brown was extremely unpopular as a PM. And yet the tories still did not get a majority.

Why do you think this was?

Perhaps because they remember the poll tax riots for one...

LucaBrasi · 02/07/2011 00:43

Ach it's all bollocks anyway. Ed Milliband is fecking useless.

If the Labour Party was in any way honest, it would actually say and argue that some things Gordon Brown did was, in fact, awesome. The man had the public personna of an impregnated goat on speed but really, that goat had some talents

It is utter cowardice that the powers that be in the Labour party will not align themselves to those achievements purely for political reasons. And especially as Labour is so royally fucked with Milliband (pre operation - fuck i hope it make is all better!) who was his aide for 10+ years.

Still not voting for tories though. Think I will have to start my party of FullofNonCrap

electra · 02/07/2011 00:44

I agree LucaBrasi

RobF · 02/07/2011 00:44

Council tax now is higher in real terms than the poll tax was in the late 80s.

Most people couldn't give a shit about the Iraq war.

Labour engineered themselves a massive client state, millions of people reliant on the government for a living, either through public sector jobs or through benefits. It takes quite a while to dismantle this. Ultimately though, these people have no ideological loyalty to Labour, they just voted for them for short term financial reasons. This will prove to be a massive problem for Labour, as their former voter base dies off and their new voter base deserts them for other parties.

RobF · 02/07/2011 00:45

"If the Labour Party was in any way honest, it would actually say and argue that some things Gordon Brown did was, in fact, awesome. "
Such as?

electra · 02/07/2011 00:49

I think you'll find the poll tax was designed to screw as much money out of as many people as possible. It was a mistake that arguably ended Thatcher's career.

moondog · 02/07/2011 00:51

Richard Littlejohn summed it up pretty well in the Daily Mail yesterday.

This bit particularly

'The days when the car workers and the engineering workers were the big beasts in the union jungle have long gone.
What's left of the TUC is dominated by the public service unions. Gordon Brown pumped billions into the pockets of state workers. The unions bankroll Labour. And so on and so on and scooby dooby dooby.
It's an incestuous merry-go round, all financed by the British taxpayer. We even pay the salaries of full-time activists in government departments, Town Halls and the NHS.
Hilariously, the anarchist group UK Uncut asked its supporters to turn up at yesterday's demo 'dressed as a worker' in order to blend in with the crowd.
There was never any danger of anyone turning up as a chimney sweep, or a coal miner. Today's 'workers' are properly represented by the scruffy mob on parade across Britain this week.
Forget about the wheel-tappers and shunters. Labour is now the party of the keyboard-clatterers and box-tickers. Of teachers, lecturers and social workers.'

LucaBrasi · 02/07/2011 00:52

Rob F
Saving the financial system from utter collapse perhaps?

LucaBrasi · 02/07/2011 00:53

The Daily Mail? You are quoting from? Really?

LucaBrasi · 02/07/2011 00:54

And richard Littletory specifically........?

moondog · 02/07/2011 00:57

It's a great paper with some excellent political commentary.
It also amuses me that the liberal masses have been brainwashed into thinking it somewhat beneath them.
Very Emporer's New Clothes.

There's alway the Socilaist Worker Online which is good for a laugh. Enjoy!

electra · 02/07/2011 01:02

The Daily Mail? Of course, we're all so brainwashed we can't see how hypocritical, right wing and misogynist it really is. Or how it likes to encourage people to hate each other....

LucaBrasi · 02/07/2011 01:03

Shall i quote from the Morning Star as a rebuff then? Get a grip. It's a tory rag and the worst of them. that's fine if that's what you are and are inclined to be backed up in that, but don't let's fool ourselves it's any different.

I'd even give the Telegraph a go, despite the fact it attacked all the labour MPs re expenses before the duck pond finally floated

moondog · 02/07/2011 01:03

Electra, you are getting hysterical now.
Calm down.
Can you answer the questions i posed earlier while you are at it?

moondog · 02/07/2011 01:06

Telegraph was (and still is) highly critical of Tory MPs in expenses scandal and has very little time for present Tory government or David Cameron.

It a teeny weeny bit more complicated than Mail/Telegrpah reader = fascist champagne swilling bigot Guardian/SWO = brave Fairtrade coffee drinknig class warrior.

electra · 02/07/2011 01:08

Oh you always roll that one out, I am getting hysterical again am I? No I don't see the point in answering those questions.