How the name of heaven can anyone support the Tories?

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I just don't get it. Unless you are a heartless multimillionaire - then it makes total sense of course.

I have to turn off Radio 4 when I hear Hague?Gove et al dribbling out their blatant lies/spin/venom especially early in the morning. How on earth can ANYONE not see them for what they are?

Indigo tehre aren't enough of those places. most people in rented would LOVE a council house with a long term let (not me but I am odd; I like my independence and the thought of getting ti back one day).

Therefore they will end up, as the Government has already planned, in B&Bs costing far more than their original rent amounts.

Good to see that you give a stuff about carers, disabled people, vulnerable people though. Always the mark of a human being, I find.

Do yuo calss warriors ever wonder where all of these hundreds of pounds go?
Into the pockets of the people you profess to despise! The property owning profit making lasses
And why?
Because Labour allowed it to happen.As long as they seemed to be 'supporting' the 'vunerable' they didn't give a shit who got rich out of the scheme as many have done and are continuing to do. A license to print money.

In a market economy, things are worth what people want to pay for them.As it stands to reason that only the wealthy or those propped up by the state can afford these things, the rents will come down.

Labour are fucking idiots. Instead of having a long term plan they just stumble from one disaster to the next, because they have to appear to be "kind" and "fair" despite the fact that it just builds up problems for the next government to deal with.

Class warriors? What bull.

There is no such thing as a free Market economy, I'm afraid. The private sector messes up and is bailed out by the general public. That's how it works.

Nothing to do with class warriors.

Have only skimmed the thread. But frankly, the headlines right now about plans to cap benefits at £500 per week per family demonstrate why this country is in such a mess. For many working people WITH FAMILIES £500 a week after tax would be untold riches.

'class warriors'....what total BS. Soon someone will start yelling about Stalin.

Now this is really why I can't stand extreme Tories (note I don't mean the 'wets' or even the misguided Free Market enthusiasts who think lots of mini versions of Suralan Sugar will arise and save us all from global meltdown...it's the thinly veiled hysteria lurking under a mask of fine upstanding morality that really, really bugs me)

And fgs stop shouting about Labour. Bliar was a tosser, we all know that. Not being able to stand the Tory party doesn't mean you believe blindly in Labour.

Market-driven neoliberalism, the lot of it. I would say on balance though and given the appalling performances of Gove and Maude lately, the Tories seem even stupider. God help us all.

more stupid, I mean....god it's been a long day....

Yes, wonder what their next U turn will be. Because they are so very certain of everything, aren't they?

And yes, it is moronic to assume that anyone who loathes the Tories is automatically a card carrying member of the Labour or Communist Party.

I consider myself relatively right of centre economically and am revolted by the Tories.

winky, I think that regardless of political leanings (and this lot are coming out as pretty much hard-right overall) they are just astonishingly incompetent. Maude when interviewed on 30 June clearly didn't even know the basics of the pension funding arrangements when half the Guardian comments board could have told him what percentage of GDP teachers' pensions represent this year and next. The entire cabinet seem obsessed with marketisation and privatisation at any cost and have absolutely no concept of an organised or coherent way to achieve this- the universities fiasco, in which Willetts seemed to expect the universities to organise themselves into perfect market by charging fees below their break-even point and simultaneously posture as world-class institutions, is emblematic.

I'm ambivalent about the U turns. If a position is bloody stupid, best it be turned away from. With this lot, the turns seem circular as much as anything else. I recently heard that they're at it again with their bizarre and horrifying intention to privatise the forests.

This bunch would be very, very funny if they weren't so bloody dangerous.

The universities will sort themselves out after a few years of trial and error. No-one is going to be paying £9000 a year for 2nd rate courses at 3rd rate institutions. They'll either have to charge more realistically or go out of business.

"I'm ambivalent about the U turns. If a position is bloody stupid, best it be turned away from. "

Turned away from only what the stupid idea is lambasted by the experts in the field.

only when, I meant to type.