Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Housekeeping

Find cleaning advice from other Mumsnetters on our Housekeeping forum.

Please will you kindly support and advise me, as I try to help a friend sort out his home?

999 replies

EatingTheElephantInChunks · 14/08/2018 17:48

Yesterday I started to try to help a friend sort out his home. If I tell you that it took me nearly 3 hours to clear a space on the bathroom floor about 3ft x 4ft, you will probably understand how things are. Today I did a little better. In about 2 hours I cleared another space the same size, which meant I could open a cupboard. Two shelves were almost empty, so I was able to clean those and use them for storage. I will carry on next time with the other 2 shelves and continue clearing the bathroom floor.

It was very satisfying to get rid of a whole binbag of rubbish yesterday and a half bag today, plus a bag and a half of recycling, and a small bag of confidential waste to shred. There is a folding storage crate of things to keep so far, but I'll go through that again to see if I've missed anything that should be thrown out or recycled.

My friend has got into this situation after many years of serious illness and close bereavements, has no family left and few friends, certainly not really close ones. He has been at the stage for several years where he doesn't have visitors. He needs many repairs and much decorating doing, and is getting to the stage where carers visiting would be helpful. I am hoping to get him to the stage where that will be possible. He is such a nice guy, and it's a shame that life has gradually got smaller and smaller for him over the years. It must be terribly lonely.

I feel honoured that he has trusted me with the truth of how things are. I can't talk to anyone IRL as I know it's essential to protect his privacy, and I have changed my username in case anyone makes the connections. I could do with some mumsnet wisdom and support! I have never felt such a sense of achievement over a bit of floorspace 3ft x 4ft, but equally the enormity of the task hit me.

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
The author - writing under the pseudonym EatingTheElephantInChunks - claims and owns the copyright of all her posts dated on and after 14th August 2018 as her intellectual property and as a moral right and which are all her own individual and original work. Reproduction in whole or part or any other use is strictly prohibited without her prior written permission.

[Edited by MNHQ at posters request]

OP posts:
Ringsender2 · 27/07/2021 23:11

Hello Nellie, I lost you for a long time - so glad to have found you again.

Your tenacity is incredible, as is your generosity of time and spirit.

I've just done a week of decluttering of a relative's house. Much, much easier than your job. But I hear you on the moths! Little grubs, old cocoons, and flying fiends around the house. I became adept at vacuuming them all off the walls each morning, and even from mid-air. I felt like a Ghostbuster.

I have had those day-mares where I think I'm going to be swarmed by a squadron of moths in revenge. Accompanied by Hitchcockian violin suspense music. Or a particularly grim grub and cocoon area, where I felt like Sigourney Weaver in Aliens. I was dreading turning around and being towered over by the mummy moth.

Great satisfaction to be had when recycling or repurposing. We managed to put only a small % in the 'dump'. We also shared some good moments when looking through old kids drawings, correspondence, magazines etc.

Hows your friend? The kitchen must be quite a significant moment for him. It sounds like a very large space, and also one that was well-used in former times?

And how are you? Physically and emotionally. I hope you're managing to recharge.

Ringsender2 · 27/07/2021 23:24

PS 🐘🐘🐘🐘🐘🐘🐘

SpringCrocus · 28/07/2021 00:39

Going to need a new thread, soon...

NoSquirrels · 28/07/2021 08:20

@EatingTheElephantInChunks

Perhaps I should save it all until Bonfire Night then, NoSquirrels - should have a towering inferno by then, I think.

I don't know about the hours over the last week Cleaners. I've been every day to varying degrees. I haven't been keeping a tally, just as and when I get chance. Perhaps I don't want to think about it, especially as I'm already starting to fear we'll be lucky to have the kitchen clear and clean by Christmas. Do you have any idea how long these things take, from your experience?

Just went back to the beginning of the thread - this is then first mention of the kitchen Grin

Bloody well done, Nelly. Seriously. I still wish I could come and help you!

applesandpears33 · 28/07/2021 10:49

Well done Nelly! That is a massive achievement. I don't post much but follow your thread regularly. It is a wonderful thing you are doing for your friend and I hope he appreciates you.

Ulysses · 28/07/2021 10:53

Cheering you on from the sidelines too. I can imagine that’s brought a huge sense of achievement and relief. Smile

EatingTheElephantInChunks · 28/07/2021 12:23

Hello again everyone. Thank you to Spring, Nutty, Ring, apples and Ulysses. A warm welcome back to Nutty, Ring and apples and a warm welcome to Spring. It always amazes me when people like Spring, fresh and others delurk, unbeknownst to me having been with me since the start - I just hadn't met you yet! - thank you all. Flowers

I am just having a tea break with a digestive biscuit or three and catching up.

OP posts:
PingedThroughTheWall · 28/07/2021 13:48

Wow wow wow!!! Congratulations!!!!! You've done amazingly well to do all that solo 👏👏👏

Your friend must be delighted!!!

Effram · 28/07/2021 14:22

I discovered this thread about 2 weeks ago and I have delightedly been chomping through it and just got up to date and what a time to have caught up - RIP the DAs!!!

You are absolutely inspirational and write so beautifully. I have started clearing my own house, a chunk at a time, because I have no excuse after reading this. You should publish this as a book, all proceeds to the gin fund... You write so vividly it transports me there (I have been flapping moths away it feels so real!)

EatingTheElephantInChunks · 28/07/2021 14:24

I wish you had posted from the start, Spring, because it sounds like you have a wealth of experience I could have used! Oh well, you're here now - and please do chip in with your two penn'orth whenever you feel able? A huge well done on everything you achieved for your elderly and no doubt vulnerable relative. Flowers

Nutty - you're back at last! It's funny, reading my own words back after all this time. In my defence, I didn't say which Christmas! But oh, the naivety. Posters who recommended I should start with the kitchen might well have been quite right, but hindsight is a wonderful thing! I too often wish the herd could be here helping me in person rather than in spirit - speaking of which, I could then put my feet up and direct operations while working my way through that case of gin you mention! But actually, given that's not possible, just knowing that people would like to help - or send gin! - is a help in itself. At times, the elephant does seem to be a more manageable size, yes - like immediately after getting the DAs out and emptied - but mostly it does still seem like an enormous bull elephant in musth!

Oh, your very own Mothy House of Horror, Ring - your description did make me smile and nod along in recognition! - poor you, and well done. I'm going to steal your 'Ghostbuster' and sing the theme song in future - this week I've been vacuuming up flies from the kitchen ceiling mainly, rather than moths! Yes, it is satisfying, isn't it, to prevent adding to landfill as much as possible, and also to share the nice moments? A funny thing happened this morning, when I found a fossil - probably originally from beach combing - buried as I cleared the floor in the hall doorway. I can't wait to wave it at my friend, and tease him - only in a good natured way of course - that finding an actual fossil shows just how long it's been like that! You asked how he is, thank you - it is churning him up and I took the decision to protect him from the worst of it. Some might question this - that he needs to see it in a 'tough love' way and in the hope it will help him never to return to it. Knowing him, I really don't think that would help. I'm his friend and I'm not in the business of adding to the humiliation, guilt and shame he must already feel. I know he is very pleased and can't quite believe it is happening. I know he is grateful. He told me yesterday he is proud of me. That is more than enough. Yes, the kitchen was once full of live, love and laughter. And you also asked about me, thank you - it's a bit of a rollercoaster ride, honestly? It does take its toll, emotionally, mentally and physically, especially on top of other pressures and commitments. But there are also times of elation, large and small - whether finishing each chunk, seeing another wheelie bin of rubbish or recycling ready to be carted off, the death of the DAs obviously, or seeing some hope in my friend's eyes at last. I don't minimise the sheer slog, but it is wonderful to witness a home gradually coming back to life and even a life gradually coming back to life too. There's so much wrong in the world and I can't put all that right, but I have got the opportunity to make a very significant difference in one person's life and I am grateful for that. I'm usually multi-tasking but I'm trying to make sure that my backside is resting on the comfy sofa for the odd hour or half, preferably with a cuppa, G&T of course or glass of wine and a family cuddle or two. We really hoped to be going on a family holiday during the school break but as yet we haven't been able to find anything suitable, especially with all the new staycationers and price hikes. Lovely herd of elephant emojis by the way - thank you!

Today's chunk was the floor in the hall doorway, as previously mentioned, next to where the new freezer will be. I am down to floor level, it has been vacuumed, had its first mop - the door needed that too - and the door can now be closed and locked when needed. I have also taken some old small appliances - kettle and toaster - some very large pieces of packing polystyrene and a whole bag of batteries away for recycling. And finally I have done a very first chunk of the hall floor! It seemed to me that I needed to clear and clean at least a small space on the other side of the door, otherwise it would just spread and tread back in from the hall back into the kitchen. It is probably less than 2ft by 3ft, but it's a start - and a reminder of my very first post nearly three years ago, back in the Dreaded Bathroom! The rest of the hall is very much a future challenge at the moment! If all goes according to plan, I hope to progress further with the kitchen this week and will report back, hopefully with more good news.

I had been thinking that we might need a new thread very soon and Spring has reminded me of that. I have an idea for my very last post on this thread. Wink If I start a new thread, would anyone who posts regularly like to volunteer to do the two links between them please?

In the meantime, take good care everyone. Flowers

OP posts:
EatingTheElephantInChunks · 28/07/2021 14:32

Apologies - full of life, love and laughter.

OP posts:
EatingTheElephantInChunks · 28/07/2021 14:59

I have started a new thread, ready for when this one is full. There's always the chance I might have finished the whole house in the next 36 posts Wink but just in case I don't, would any regular poster like to link to the new thread on here now please, and then link to this thread on there? It is the same user name, subject and topic. Many thanks in advance.

OP posts:
SingToTheSky · 28/07/2021 15:00

Wow, I remember seeing this thread when you started it (but wasn’t in a place to offer advice at the time so I don’t think I posted)

I had no idea it was still going.

You, OP, are Proper Awesome. 💐

Pashazade · 28/07/2021 16:29

Well done Ele, tis certainly a house of many doors! Hopefully the weather stays dry to help with airing the kitchen. Have you sorted the dehumidifier? I'm wondering if the hallway is heading back into Indiana Jones territory? Is there an under stairs cupboard, please tell me you don't have to worry about a cellar?? Confused
Such a shame we can't come and help you crack on, its always so much easier cleaning someone else's house! 🐘GinCake

AwkwardPaws27 · 28/07/2021 16:45

There's always the chance I might have finished the whole house in the next 36 posts

But wouldn't it be lovely to wrap up this thread with you and your friend sitting at the kitchen table, with its new oilcloth in place, sipping cups of tea with milk from the shiny new fridge?!

ButtonMoonLoon · 28/07/2021 18:12

@EatingTheElephantInChunks

Apologies everyone for the inclusion of this post but I have been advised that it is necessary in the current climate. Flowers

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
The author - writing under the pseudonym EatingTheElephantInChunks - claims and owns the copyright of all her posts dated on and after 14th August 2018 as her intellectual property and as a moral right and which are all her own individual and original work. Reproduction in whole or part or any other use is strictly prohibited without her prior written permission.

Great idea to post that- I think everyone should do so when they start a thread they don’t want the journalists picking up!
EatingTheElephantInChunks · 28/07/2021 18:59

I will have to come back later - bit of a disaster or two since I posted last - but I just wanted to thank Chem for doing both the links and to say to Paws: now there's a challenge and even more so now we are down to 30! But yes, wouldn't it be lovely?! The new oilcloth is here now, the fridge on the other hand....

OP posts:
SpringCrocus · 28/07/2021 19:53

How many reception rooms does the house have? And attics, cellars?
Just wondering at the scale of the problem!

EducatingArti · 28/07/2021 20:37

Ele
Just delurking because I see you are still thinking of getting a dehumidifier.
(I have read all your posts from the beginning; you are doing an amazing thing.)
Do look in to how much the model you chose costs to run.
I use a dehumidifier in a modern flat ( helps to get washing dry) and don't notice much extra cost.
I lent it to my parents once though and they used it in their 1700s no proper damp proof course house and it massively increased their bill, even though they had central heating. I don't know whether it would be worth hiring ( or ideally borrowing) one for a bit just to see how much it increases the bill for a month.

NoSquirrels · 28/07/2021 21:09

You asked how he is, thank you - it is churning him up and I took the decision to protect him from the worst of it. Some might question this - that he needs to see it in a 'tough love' way and in the hope it will help him never to return to it. Knowing him, I really don't think that would help. I'm his friend and I'm not in the business of adding to the humiliation, guilt and shame he must already feel. I know he is very pleased and can't quite believe it is happening. I know he is grateful. He told me yesterday he is proud of me. That is more than enough.

No one who has been with you on the thread will think you’ve made the wrong decision on this. No one would cope with seeing the DAs in the state you’ve described them and a friend struggling with dealing with it, and no one is helped by shame, merely set back. So I think you’re absolutely right to deal with that alone. Hopefully new routines and habits can replace the old rubbish in due course.

Flowers
EatingTheElephantInChunks · 28/07/2021 23:06

Thank you all - I really needed to read your posts tonight and they have helped. Flowers

OP posts:
RandomMess · 28/07/2021 23:27

Gosh I haven't been on here in such a long time. It's so great you are still going however slow and steady it is.

Well done the both you Thanks

EatingTheElephantInChunks · 29/07/2021 09:29

Hello again everyone and thank you to Pinged, Effram, Sing, Pash, Button, Spring, Educating, Nutty and Random. A warm welcome or welcome back too to Effram, Sing, Button, Educating and Random. Flowers

Well done Effram for starting to chomp chunks off your own home. The very best of luck and here's hoping your own Mothy House of Horror is all in your head! I'd love to know how you get on, so please feel free to share your good, bad or uglies if you'd like to or it would help in any way - no pressure to though.

And Sing, I understand what you are saying. Whatever place you're in, you're always welcome to post on here. Flowers

I haven't ordered a dehumidifier yet, Pash, but it looks like rainy season has started here in the jungle so I ought to soon. I appreciate the warning, Educating, about the running costs. I wonder if my friend could run it just at night in the longer term as his electricity is much cheaper then. There is a - buried - understairs door but I'm pleased to report that we don't think there's a cellar, Pash and Spring, which is definitely a blessing! Or at least my friend has never been aware of one ! It seems unlikely, especially as most of the ground floor seems to be directly laid on to earth. And yes, Pash, the - large - hall is definitely The Dreaded Hall or perhaps The Hallway of Doom. Gin

I really appreciated your wise and kind words, Nutty.

Update to follow.

OP posts:
EducatingArti · 29/07/2021 13:34

It would be easy to plug the dehumidifier in via a timer plug to use the cheap rate electricity. Some modern dehumidifiers may have a timer built in.
Did you say there was a fireplace in the kitchen. I'm wondering once the kitchen is cleared it might be worth getting that chimney swept as obviously having a fire going will also warm things up and help to dry things out.

Swipe left for the next trending thread