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Devastated DD - awful reference

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AnonymousStudentParent · 15/01/2025 13:38

My undergraduate DD recently asked her Personal Tutor, by email, whether he could be her referee for a summer school (prestigious, with a generous scholarship scheme). She attached a link to the website of the summer school and underscored the information relating to the reference. She didn't hear back from her Personal Tutor immediately but after about 3 weeks he emailed briefly saying he'd already submitted the reference (she had anticipated him getting back to her for clarification on a couple of things she had done that she had mentioned in the email that he didn't know about). Yesterday she had a quick beginning of term meeting with him when he outlined to her the devastating terms of the reference, basically saying she was too young and under qualified for the summer school but a nice hardworking person if they wanted to take a chance on her.

My DD is neither too young nor under qualified for the summer school - quite the contrary, she's very amply qualified (though mostly outside the scope of her degree). It's in an area she is extremely knowledgeable about and she has properly researched the summer school. She spent several days in the Christmas holidays writing the extensive application.

She was too flabbergasted to react (and her time with the PT was up) on the spot. Needless to say, this isn't good for her self-confidence. Any advice to how she goes back to the PT and asks him whether he can spend a few minutes looking at the website and her application and rethink his hasty judgement? The deadline for submission of the application isn't for another couple of weeks.

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wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 16/01/2025 16:15

redstroll · 16/01/2025 09:56

This thread must have been your full time job yesterday OP

Oh I think there were others who spent much more time on it....

What's the issue if it was anyway?

BeAzureAnt · 16/01/2025 16:16

Here is another article about the state of HE in the UK, Times Higher eduction, excepted. It also makes the point that reinstating enrollment caps would help.

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/university-job-cuts-hit-10000-year-end-despite-fee-rise

University job cuts to ‘hit 10,000 by year end’ despite fee rise
English fee rise does little to relieve pressure on institutions, with increased staff costs likely to swallow additional funding

Thousands of job cuts in UK higher education could be announced by the end of the year, with university leaders claiming that the rise in English tuition fees has come “too late” to fend off redundancies.

Sector leaders expected more than 100 of the UK’s 140-odd universities to be making redundancies by the end of 2024-25, in what has been described as a “cataclysmic” situation where “everything is on the table”.

The announcement that tuition fees in England will rise for the first time since 2017 – from £9,250 to £9,535 next autumn – has done little to alleviate financial difficulties being felt across the sector. While this could bring in as much as £371 million in additional revenue, there is uncertainty about how many institutions will be able to charge it to continuing students, and the Office for Students has warned that steep hikes to employer national
insurance contributions announced in the Westminster government’s budget will cost English providers £430 million annually.

Last week the English regulator estimated that almost three-quarters of higher education providers face being in deficit next year despite the rise in fees, after student recruitment lagged well below expectations. This week the University of East Anglia said it expected to cut another 170 jobs, with compulsory redundancies a possibility.
Sir David Bell, vice-chancellor of the University of Sunderland, said the rise in fees reflected an “admirable willingness” from the government to think about the sector’s long-term but said “it must be set against the employers’ national insurance changes”.
“I don’t think there’s really anything off the table, at the moment,” Sir David said. “If you’re looking at reducing costs by somewhere between 10 and 20 per cent, then no areas really are absolutely sacrosanct. I think that’s just the blunt reality.”

Another vice-chancellor, who asked not to be named, noted that additional tuition fee revenue will not come until “after many universities have made their corrections to balance their books”, explaining that job cuts were being driven by a mix of under-recruitment of international students, inflationary pressures and the rise in national insurance contributions.
They said that by the end of the year they expected to see about 100 universities making cuts of roughly 100 people, adding up to a sector-wide total of 10,000. “It’s cataclysmic at the national level,” they said, adding that for many universities, “there is no flesh to remove, you’re back down to bone” after successive years of savings on non-staffing costs.

A tally compiled by the University and College Union branch at Queen Mary University of London records that at least 77 universities have announced cuts, about half of all major providers.
Liesbeth Corens, a senior lecturer in early modern history who compiles the list, said increasing fees at the same time as national insurance contributions “gives with one hand and takes away with the other”.

University of East Anglia

The University of East Anglia is a teaching and research institution with around 15,000 students. Its campus is located in 320 acres of parkland two miles from the city centre of Norwich.The campus has won more than 20 architectural awards, while there...

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/university-east-anglia

thing47 · 16/01/2025 16:16

BeAzureAnt · 16/01/2025 15:41

Well, if you want a letter of recommendation from someone, it seems common sense to meet with them more than 10 minutes a term? We don't know he was making things up...he may have made a mistake on the birthdate.

So, relevant experience or inexperience for a school or a job should never be mentioned on a reference? Is this what you are claiming?

It's not a letter of recommendation, it's a reference. The two are not synonymous. there's a formality to the latter which may be absent from the former.

If he's made a simple mistake regarding her age, he needs to correct it.

The PT doesn't know whether the student has relevant experience or not, that's the whole point. He should have asked. It's the work of a moment to email: they ask for experience of x, y and z. Do you have that as it's outwith the scope of your degree? And don't be a twat, we're trying to have a civilised conversation here, no?

BeAzureAnt · 16/01/2025 16:18

thing47 · 16/01/2025 16:16

It's not a letter of recommendation, it's a reference. The two are not synonymous. there's a formality to the latter which may be absent from the former.

If he's made a simple mistake regarding her age, he needs to correct it.

The PT doesn't know whether the student has relevant experience or not, that's the whole point. He should have asked. It's the work of a moment to email: they ask for experience of x, y and z. Do you have that as it's outwith the scope of your degree? And don't be a twat, we're trying to have a civilised conversation here, no?

When people start calling others twats, they are losing the argument.

TizerorFizz · 16/01/2025 16:23

@LittleBigHead You know as well as I do that universities have over expanded and schools find vast numbers need support. No one actually says a dc is not suitable for uni. Unis don’t interview or have any idea of the ability of the dc they recruit to be suited to the education on offer. So much of this is the fault of the unis and various governments.

I truly believe there needs to be contraction and mergers. Also far more dc doing non degree HE. Move up to a degree after proof of suitable HE after leaving school. Just reading these threads makes you realise how many are likely to struggle. Far too much is smoothed out for them and some just are not suitable for the courses. Newcastle has plummeted in league tables - no idea why - but that’s also alarming.

thing47 · 16/01/2025 16:24

When people start wilfully misrepresenting what others are saying rather than offering sensible counter-arguments, they definitely aren't winning it.

BeAzureAnt · 16/01/2025 16:25

thing47 · 16/01/2025 16:16

It's not a letter of recommendation, it's a reference. The two are not synonymous. there's a formality to the latter which may be absent from the former.

If he's made a simple mistake regarding her age, he needs to correct it.

The PT doesn't know whether the student has relevant experience or not, that's the whole point. He should have asked. It's the work of a moment to email: they ask for experience of x, y and z. Do you have that as it's outwith the scope of your degree? And don't be a twat, we're trying to have a civilised conversation here, no?

As I said upthread, the DD can see the PT about the issue. And, he may have had the information in front of him, and decided she was underqualified. You don't know.

I've had references be quite formulaic...forms. I've seen letters of recommendation that are very formal. It depends on the application.

BeAzureAnt · 16/01/2025 16:26

thing47 · 16/01/2025 16:24

When people start wilfully misrepresenting what others are saying rather than offering sensible counter-arguments, they definitely aren't winning it.

I'm not doing this whatsoever. You are the one resorting to name calling, no?

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 16/01/2025 16:26

redstroll · 16/01/2025 11:04

the amount of time her mother has wasted arguing on this thread!

It seems to me the OP did not post with the intention of having arguments, but there are posters who are determined to argue repeatedly with her.

@AnonymousStudentParent I hope your DD is feeling a little better about this, and you have a course of action in mind.

Eugenia1976 · 16/01/2025 16:26

I would never give a bad personal reference. If I couldn’t give a positive one; I would just decline to give one and thought most people did. Strange tutor.

BeAzureAnt · 16/01/2025 16:27

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BeAzureAnt · 16/01/2025 16:28

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 16/01/2025 16:26

It seems to me the OP did not post with the intention of having arguments, but there are posters who are determined to argue repeatedly with her.

@AnonymousStudentParent I hope your DD is feeling a little better about this, and you have a course of action in mind.

Passive aggressive remark two.

PlopSofa · 16/01/2025 16:37

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BeAzureAnt · 16/01/2025 16:37

Here are all the universities in trouble. From
https://qmucu.org/qmul-transformation/uk-he-shrinking/

Most recent updates
(in the past fortnight; last updated 14 January 2025)

  • Brighton opened another VSS, targeting the arts and humanities in particular.
  • The University of Dundee will no longer issue contracts to post-graduate students for teaching in 2025.
  • Lancaster is cutting 400 posts over the next two years
  • Staffordshire has lost 10% of its academic staff and is trying to lose 10% of its professional service staff
  • University of West England: Bristol Old Vic will no longer be accepting enrolments from September 2025.
Current redundancy & REstructure programmes
  1. Aberdeen, where management in November 2023 announced they would fold Modern Languages. The public response has been immense, compiled here by Aberdeen ucu. In March, they announced compulsory redundancies would be off the table after all. The university is looking for £12 million for the current academic year though it is unclear whether this is a deficit or a shortfall against projected cash generation.
  2. Aberystwyth is looking to cut 200 jobs searching for £15 million. This would reduce staff by 8-11 percent. Previously, the university announced they would axe the entire postgraduate teaching course (PGCE).
  3. Aston University put 60 academics in the college of engineering and physical sciences at risk of redundancy. There is a Voluntary Severance Scheme open for the entire university.
  4. Bangor opened a voluntary severance scheme in autumn 2024. In previous years, Bangor has been cutting posts and programmes, including its entire Chemistry department. Bangor University’s International College is cutting in administrative staff and permanent tutors. Bangor University International College is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Oxford International Education Group (OIEG), a private provider that operates under Bangor University’s brand identity.
  5. Bedfordshire restructured in the summer of 2023 and all but closed Performing Arts Cluster (Acting BA, Dance & Professional Practice BA and Performing Arts BA), made redundant 8 members of staff in Media, and reduced the School of arts and Creative Industries dramatically. In Spring 2024, they again opened a Voluntary Severance Scheme for all staff.
  6. Birkbeck tried to cut 140 jobs in 2022 against a lot of pushback as this would destroy a unique institution with evening classes set up precisely to make higher education inclusive. They have since had to absorb further restructures. And in 2024, they are again ‘streamlining’ programmes as well as cutting hours from staff on Teaching & Scholarship contracts.
  7. Birmingham launched a voluntary severance scheme in October 2024. They’re aiming to lose 300-400 ‘roles’. This comes on top of the university being investigated by the Health & Safety Executive over excessive workloads and the accompanying stress and mental health issues.
  8. Bolton has gone through two ‘Mutually Agreed Release Schemes’. MARS1 announced before Christmas 2023, around 40 left. In July 2024, a email revealed more talk about redundancies. The VC proudly announced the Office for Students agreed to a consultation on a name-change though…
  9. The Arts University Bournemouth has opened a voluntary severance scheme. The terms of the scheme won’t achieve the cost saving aims, according to the joint campus unions’ calculations.
  10. Bournemouth University has opened a voluntary severance scheme and compulsory redundancies are on the table. The university is also proposing to cut standard research hours allocation by 50% for all staff. They’re looking for £15 million which is a shortfall against projections.
  11. Bradford is cutting staff to find £10 million. In October 2024, their Chief Financial Officer confirmed that compulsory redundancies are on the table.
  12. Brighton have been under restructure since 2023. Their senior management tried to make 130 members of staff redundant on 4 May 2023. They reached 100 days in their strike. In early January 2024, they were treated to another email announcing a voluntary severance scheme. And they ended the year with another VSS, targeted this time at two schools: Art & Media and Humanities & Social Sciences.
  13. Brunel has opened a voluntary severance scheme. In October 2024, management announced a ‘resizing programme‘. The plan is for 130 FT academic positions to be made redundant, i.e. 14% reduction in academic staffing levels. In addition to the 130 academic jobs to be shed, 79 professional services jobs have been put at risk in the first of two waves of ‘organisational restructuring’ of professional services. See https://brunel.web.ucu.org.uk/ for details and some truly excellent campaigning materials.
  14. Canterbury Christ Church is getting ready to ‘shrink staff’ and have opened a Voluntary Severance Scheme. English Literature, languages, linguistics, and a number of arts and creative industries courses are closing. In November 2024, CCCU management declared they need to save £20 million using their Transformation Programme, before fiscal year end in July 2025. They say 80% of that savings will need to come from letting go of staff. If the average saved per staff member was 50,000, that would be 320 FTE to save £16million. Or: about one in five staff members to go.
  15. Cardiff‘s VC wrote to all staff announcing a £35 million deficit; voluntary severance isn’t excluded, but the university is also looking at other ways of generating income. Previously, the university already announced it was planning to cut Ancient Languages. You can sign the petition against that here. In October 2024, the VC refused to rule out compulsory redundancies. Their third voluntary severance scheme will close in January 2025.
  16. Cardiff Metropolitan University has opened a Voluntary Severance Scheme.
  17. Chichester cut ruthlessly into their humanities, including ending the Master by Research in the history of Africa and the African diaspora — terminating the contract of the first British person of African heritage to become a professor in history in the UK. Compulsory redundancies have reduced research and education.
  18. Chester has opened a Voluntary Severance Scheme again. This is after they went through a gruelling restructure in 2021, putting 86 posts on the line. In March 2024 they announced they would close the Shrewsbury university campus.
  19. Cumbria is implementing with redundancies even though the article that was put out by their senior management acknowledges they made their financial targets and have grown by 30%
  20. Coventry, who have to make £100 million in savings. There is a BBC report and a discussion in University World News. Every department has been hit. In December 2024, the university announced drastic cuts and a transformation of what they are as an institution. All modern languages have all but disappeared, and by 2027 there will be no English language teaching either. In just one of the four colleagues they’re slashing 39 posts wholesale. Many more are forced onto fire-and-rehire, having to reapply for jobs but via a subsidiary, with much higher teaching load, and a much worse pension scheme (from TPS to AVIVA, and so with much lower employer contributions). The subsidiary, Coventry University Group, also doesn’t recognise the University and College Union, so staff’s union membership (and protection) is on the line.
  21. De Montfort University is asking colleagues to take voluntary redundancy and are not ruling out redundancy. In previous years, they already tried to get rid of 58 colleagues — to public outrage in the petition against it. The branch’s analysis is forensic and a helpful template to draw inspiration from. UCU national helped the industrial action.
  22. At Derby, management has opened an ‘Enhanced Resignation Scheme’. This comes after previous voluntary severance schemes in 2019 and in 2022, while the university marked income increase and a decrease in staff cost.
  23. Dundee claimed job loses were ‘inevitable’ in November 2024, having already implemented hiring freezes and reducing operational spending. Staff was warned the university could close within two years unless drastic savings were made. This includes the removal of the budget to pay post-graduate researchers for teaching — taking away income and experience from early career colleagues and pushing even more work onto permanent staff. They still could spend thousands of pounds on business class flights and five-star hotels for their VC and a member of staff though.
  24. Durham had a Voluntary Severance Scheme open between November 2023 and February 2024. After the voluntary severance scheme wrapped up, insufficiently many people have applied, so the employer has decided to run it again. The scheme opened again 30 September 2024, to close 30 October 2024.
  25. Edge Hill University announced redundancies in the Creative Arts department, including compulsory redundancies. You can sign the petition challenging these cuts.
  26. Edinburgh announced job cuts in November 2024.
  27. In the Spring of 2024, Essex was planning to force academics on a 45-week teaching programme, which would essentially destroy the idea of university as no research could take place. They’re reneging on the (poor) pay increase negotiated nationally as well as on staff promotions to find £14m to deal with a shortfall, not deficit. In November 2024, they announced seeking to lose 200 members of staff to find £29 million savings, and changed the tone from ‘no department in particular is at risk’ to ‘no discipline is at risk’.
  28. The University of Exeter has opened a Voluntary Severance Scheme (or ‘Exeter Release Scheme‘ as they call it…).
  29. Glasgow put 80 staff members in Social and Public Health Sciences in at risk of redundancy in November 2024.
  30. Glasgow Caledonian opened a ‘Mutual Severance Scheme‘ on 4 March 2024, and re-opened it in June.
  31. Gloucestershire is discussing voluntary severance
  32. Goldsmiths has been going through rough restructuring for the past few years. And now they’re there again. Management has claimed a £13.1m shortfall from budget (not deficit!). They’ve already recovered £10.1 through savings in recurrent costs through VSS, post deletions and cuts to research, and Goldsmiths has healthy cash reserves. The proposed cut of 130 posts would amount to 25% of staff. The local branch has set up a support fund to enable them challenging this; and they are sharing helpful resources. In the summer of 2024, Goldsmiths did indeed push through redundancies, including losing convenors of key and unique masters programmes.
  33. Heriot-Watt has opened a voluntary redundancy scheme aimed at senior grades (Assoc Prof and Professor) in (and currently only in) the School of Social Sciences. “Alternatives” are being offered, including reductions to working hours, unpaid career breaks for senior grades, and secondments to the Dubai campus.
  34. The University of Hertfordshire is currently going through a redundancy process for several schools, including: 6 posts in Law, 5 posts in Creative Arts, and up to 16 posts in Health, Medicine and Life Sciences.
  35. University of the Highlands and Islands has had multiple Voluntary Severance Schemes, redundancy rounds, and course closures affecting the constituent colleges — including closing entire campuses which served rural communities. Voluntary severance has been taken up with compulsory redundancies expected to follow over the summer.
  36. Huddersfield put 100 jobs at risk in the umpteenth iteration of redundancy processes. In Spring 2024, management announced they were seeking 12% cut in staff (or 200 posts), all compulsory redundancies, after the waves of voluntary severance. This lead to the loss of the national nuclear research centre. Their management had offered £5000 one-off payment to those who took redundancy, to encourage uptake. In early July they tried to renege on that agreement.
  37. Hull opened a Voluntary Severance Scheme in Spring 2024, through which about 100 members of staff left. In June 2024, the university announced even more staff redundancies, seeking another staff reduction of nearly 150. In August 2024, the university confirmed it would close the chemistry department because it does not deem the courses financially sustainable — read this blogpost articulating the vast ripple effect of this closure. In Autumn 2024, Hull was looking at a reduction of 1 in 10 in academic staff, and convened compulsory redundancy panels. Colleages were made to leave in December 2024.
  38. In May 2024, Keele opened a voluntary redundancy scheme, inviting 2,300 staff members. Redundancy agreements will be statutory minimum only. By December 2024, they entered a new, more vicious rounds of cuts, this time targeted at the Faculty of Humanities and Social Sciences, and including compulsory redundancies. £2.25m will be saved from academic staff posts, equating to the loss of 25-29 academic posts, 20-24 of which will be from the Humanities and Social Sciences. In December 2024, they announced another Voluntary Severance Scheme, which would be moved to compulsory redundancies if there wasn’t a big enough uptake. 100 colleagues spent their Christmas worrying for their jobs as they were at risk to be one of the 30-35 posts to be culled. The schools in the humanities and social sciences are most targeted but st risk are also Keele Business School and Allied Health Professions and Pharmacy.
  39. Kent had a threat of compulsory redundancies, which some voluntary departures seemed to have averted, and then the compulsory redundancies came back. Since February 2024, they’ve got a portfolio of what has to go. By late March 2024, the university announced cutting some of the key departments in the arts, humanities, and social sciences, including Anthropology, Art History, Health & Social Care, Journalism, Music & Audio Technology, Philosophy/Religious Studies, Human Biology and Behaviour and the MSc in Ethnobotany. Kent is axing not only jobs (58 staff are at risk of redundancy), but entire programmes and departments. Kent also closed its quarter-century-old Brussels campus at short notice, giving staff no more notice than students, and not putting in place continuation measures for students — whose visas and life circumstances would allow moving to the UK. Staff face compulsary redundancy.
  40. Kingston has put its world-renowned Philosophy department ‘under review’. This comes after the university axed subjects that had been excelling in research for years, including Politics, International Relations, Human Rights, History, etc. in 2021-22. The local branch kept a record here. There have been voluntary severance schemes before, including in 2019.
  41. In the Spring of 2024, Lancaster terminated a number of fractional contracts. In October 2024, they opened a voluntary severance scheme. On 2 December 2024, all staff received an email declaring “for the University to be sustainable at the level of student recruitment we saw in 2024, current estimates show that we need to reduce the staff size by about 10-15% of where we are now – which translates to an approximate reduction of 400 full-time equivalent staff (i.e. staff across all categories) over the next two years, given our adjusted financial forecasts.”
  42. The University of Central Lancashire is facing a deficit of £25 million and is seeking to make 5% of its staff redundant. They have opened a Voluntary Severance Scheme and is looking to cut 165 posts. 100 people left voluntarily, but in June 2024, management issued a further notice threatening up to 157 post, including compulsory redundancies. This comes after multiple restructures in the last few years, in 2019, 2021, 2023, and now 2024. In November 2024, they considered removing French, Spanish, German, Russian, TESOL (Teaching of English to speakers of other languages), Philosophy, Religion, Politics, International Relations and Chemistry.
  43. Leeds Beckett opened a Voluntary Severance Scheme.
  44. Leeds Trinity opened a Voluntary Severance Scheme in Autumn 2024.
  45. Leicester has opened up a voluntary severance scheme in autumn 2024. This is after they went through a gruesome and ideologically-driven restructure. Those who got made redundant have recently won their employment tribunals. The employment tribunal judge’s ruling is available here. Several of those dismissed have written about their experiences in a new book Shaping for Mediocrity: The Cancellation of Critical Thinking at Our Universities (published August 2024).
  46. Lincoln is closing their language department, and has announced a voluntary severance scheme. They are looking to make 220 redundancies — about one tenth of all staff. Up to half may come from the initial VSS, but over 100 jobs will be scratched through either further schemes or compulsory redundancies. The sum of savings sought for keeps changing: it started at 20% of budget, which became £20 million, and then £30 million. Management has by now announced they already made savings of £24 million through VSS and other cost cutting measures but is not ruling out compulsory redundancies.
  47. Liverpool Hope had a Voluntary Severance Scheme open over Christmas 2023 for staff on Grade 7 and above — i.e.: getting rid of securely-employed and adequately-remunerated teaching & research posts. Watch out for upcoming fixed-term posts to do the same teaching, we guess?
  48. Loughborough opened a voluntary severance scheme in Autumn 2024.
  49. St Mary’s University Twickenham has opened a Mutual Resignation Scheme at the end of May 2024.
  50. Middlesex has cut into arts in the first instance, broadening to devastating the entire research community. They closed the Museum of Domestic Design & Architecture with the loss of 4 jobs, proposed removing the Interpretation & Translation academic area with the loss of 6 academic posts. Other smaller units have been closed one or two at a time, gradually escalating. While the Theatre Arts department still technically exists, all 13 members of staff in the department were put at risk of redundancy in the restructure. After repeated failures to properly consult with the UCU branch and staff affected throughout the process, just two of these staff have retained their jobs. Before this restructure was fully completed Middlesex University announced, without giving prior notice to the unions, that they are embarking on a further wide-scale restructure across the university where 181 jobs are now being ‘deleted’, taking the total to over 200+ potential job losses. Additionally, management has activated previously defeated plans to close the on site nursery which will impact both staff and students.
  51. Newcastle had a voluntary severance scheme across all faculties without targets or numbers in Spring 2024. In September 2024, the Newcastle VC announced they were facing a £35 million shortfall and therefore would resort to hiring freezes, freeze current contracts, and revise promotions and annual pay awards. A second voluntary severance scheme was opened aimed only at academics and management didn’t rule out compulsory redundancies. Promotion processes were halted for 2024 with no guarantee they would be resumed the next.
  52. Northampton is seeking £19.3 million savings and had opened a voluntary severance scheme to 500 colleagues in June 2024. In July 2024, only 97 had applied. So in October 2024, they are talking about opening another voluntary severance scheme. Mere weeks later, they announced they would consider cutting programmes — including programmes students are on.
  53. Northumbria is slashing staffing budget to find £12.5 million. Their ucu branch shared a petition to fight compulsory redundancies. They achieved that at the end of March: compulsory redundancies were ruled out thanks to the local branch’s efforts and solidarity from students and from across the country. But in November 2024, their management announced they would stop all business-and-language courses with immediate effect.
  54. Nottingham has opened a Mutually Agreed Resignation Scheme (MARS), following hiring freezes, cuts in non-pay budgets, and refusal to renew 500 fixed-term contracts. There is a £30 million deficit at the university.
  55. Open University has a voluntary severance scheme and is currently targeting Associate Lecturers as well as staff in Professional Services.
  56. Oxford Brookes on 15 November 2023 proposed folding their music department. Their branch outlines the communication here. In the first round in November, 20 people left, in the second round about 10 people left. In March 2024, they avoided many compulsory redundancies, though still not in music. In April 2024, another Voluntary Severance Scheme was announced, sent to over 800 members of staff, through which the university sought to lose 150 colleagues. The university is the number 1 indebted university in the country due to covenants to cover new buildings (some of which are now being mothballed).
  57. The Arts University Plymouth has gone through voluntary redundancies and now compulsory ones.
  58. Plymouth announced a round of cuts that will affect the Business School, Institute of Education, the Humanities (History, Art History, English, Politics), Engineering, Mathematics, Nursing and Medicine, and Partnerships. They started with a voluntary scheme in May 2024 with a planned move to compulsory in July. The university previously spent £27 million in severance payment in four years from 2016-17 to 2019-20. In 2024, they spent nearly 3 million in redundancy payment. They lost 91 colleagues but made a £24 million surplus in the financial year 2023-24.
  59. University of St Mark & St John in Plymouth (Plymouth Marjon) proposed 27FTE redundancies in late November 2023. Roughly 24 FTE have left by Spring 2024.
  60. Portsmouth has put 400 members of staff at risk. The university is planning to make 50 redundancies among full time academic roles but and the risk further affects staff in all roles; this elimination of a large numbers jobs in one swoop will effect a huge effect on the city. In July 2024, it was also announced that the university is planning to stop new staff from being able to access the Teachers Pension Scheme, in effect creating a ‘two-tier’ workforce. The university just made a £250m investment in estates though.
  61. At QMUL, 60 colleagues already left via a Voluntary Severance Scheme which ran 6 March – 8 April. Separately, there is a consultation about Professional Service staff running until 10 July, while the governing board is expected/feared on 11 July to sign off on the merger of two Schools, the School of English & Drama, and the School of Languages, Linguistics, and Film. We keep track of all info and news on this webpage.
  62. Queen Margaret University, Edinburgh opened a Voluntary Exit Scheme.
  63. Queen’s University Belfast is seeking to cut 270 posts. Management claims it will do so via voluntary severance scheme, despite that being 5% of its workforce and VSS is unlikely to achieve that. They have not provided the unions with the legally required information.
  64. Reading announced plans to shut down Chemistry, based on supposed underperformance in the National Student Survey and the Research Excellence Framework — both rather spuriously interpreted. By December 2024, and thanks to a lot of public outcry about the harm this closure would cause, the department itself would be saved, but there are still proposed cuts to academic staff.
  65. Robert Gordon University opened a voluntary severance scheme for qualifying staff across the university. 130 colleagues left through this scheme. In November 2024, the university announced making a further 135 post redundant. “The university said staff at risk would be offered voluntary redundancy and it hoped the need for compulsory redundancies would be limited.” — so one does wonder how ‘voluntary’ these redundancies are…
  66. Roehampton has once gain opened ‘Flexible Futures’ schemes to encourage staff to leave. This comes after they put half of their academics at risk in 2022. AdvanceHE was deeply involved in this slashing.
  67. The Royal Central School of Speech and Drama has opened a Voluntary Severance Scheme in autumn 2024, without clear indication how many posts management wants to see go, or in which departments.
  68. Sheffield has put 100 jobs in the nuclear research centre at risk of redundancy. In recent years, Sheffield has been forced through so many restructures it is unclear what management is trying to achieve. In October 2024, their management announced more than a £50 million shortfall — i.e.: missed targets of management’s budgets. Staff members across the university are made to feel the squeeze resulting from these unrealistic projections of never-ending-growth, as the university seeks to save £23 million through Voluntary Severance Scheme. Departments in range of severances include civil engineering, materials engineering, journalism, and many more. Professional service staff are taking a disproportionate hit through Voluntary Severance – IT services, Accommodation and Commercial Services, the English Language Teaching Centre, and all professional services staff in Schools and Faculties are in scope for the scheme. Staff have passed a No Confidence vote in the VC and the executive board, and yet the VC got a new contract…
  69. Sheffield Hallam is trying to appease banks, as reported in Times Higher Education. Mid-December 2023, they opened a Voluntary Severance Scheme. The local branch’s response to a briefing raised key questions. In March 2024, Hallam declared 120 staff faced redundancy. By April, that was 225 academic jobs up for axing, with up to 80 staff facing compulsory redundancy. In June 2024, the university announced a voluntary severance scheme for colleagues in Professional Services, seeking to cut 400 posts, or one in five of the professional service team.
  70. SOAS is firing-and-rehiring staff in their Foundation Programme.
  71. London South Bank University is predicting a £24 million deficit and therefore putting 297 members of staff at risk of redundancy, or almost one in five of academics at the university. They’re proposing to merge the 8 Schools into 5 Colleges, continuing the blandification of UKHE.
  72. South Wales is opening a voluntary severance scheme without articulating how much they have to save, how many people they want to leave, and whether the cost saving would go towards filling a deficit or a shortfall against target cash generation. In October 2024, they projected another £20 million shortfall, and didn’t rule out redundancies.
  73. Staffordshire is cutting 100 posts, as reported by the BBC. In September 2024, hundreds of jobs were ‘at risk’. By March 2024 Staffordshire had 70 redundancies of academic staff across most areas of the university. Many of these were via voluntary redundancy, others were forced closure including of two of the key research areas (in Archaeology and Bio Medical Science) with the loss of those teams. This was 10% of the academic staff. In January 2025 the university continues redundancies, 250 support staff have been at risk and there will be about 50 redundancies in February. This is 10% of the support staff, leaving areas such as timetabling and research administration virtually unresourced. In addition, the university has not yet implemented the Aug 2024 pay rise, and is outside of national pay bargaining again this year.
  74. Sunderland is seeking to close the unique National Glass Centre. In July 2024, management announced a restructure that would reduce five faculties to three. In September 2024, they sought to make 1 in 10 redundant, a literal decimation, possibly done before Christmas. Previously, they already closed the university language scheme in 2018, and the degree programmes in languages in 2021.
  75. Surrey already went through redundancies in 2019. That they’re back at the stage where they’ve opened a voluntary severance scheme shows how little redundancies solve the problem. This petition outlines the situation and urges a rethinking. The university is looking for £10 million but didn’t not outline how many posts they’re aiming to cut. Over Easter 2024, 130 staff took voluntary severance, and the university has announced 45 professional services and academic staff are at risk of redundancy.
  76. In November 2024, Sussex announced they were looking to lose 300 colleagues via voluntary severance scheme, i.e.: roughly 12% of the full time work force at the university…
  77. At Swansea, nearly 200 members of staff already left under a Voluntary Severance Scheme.
  78. Teesside opened a Voluntary Severance Scheme ‘to review how we deliver our business’… In autumn 2024, they moved to ‘Targeted Voluntary Redundancy’, with warnings that compulsory redundancies would follow if targets are not met. The destruction is compounded by undergraduate course closures, with Geography and Environmental Science affected.
  79. UCL is getting rid of double figures of fixed term staff in their History department, drastically reducing the module offering, sacrificing student-staff long term support, and increasing the workload of remaining staff. UCL had a voluntary severance scheme in 2022-23. The Academic Board discussed it 13 September, the webpage went live 14 October, the Scheme itself was open for applications from 28 November 2022 to midnight Sunday 15 January 2023. Unions were not meaningfully consulted despite records to the contrary. In the autumn of 2024, more staff, in particular on Teaching & Scholarship contracts, lost their teaching opportunities. Many of these had been bought in to cover the overrecruitment of undergraduates in previous years.
  80. UEA is back into threats to jobs. In recent years, the university got dramatically restructured, with many facing months of uncertainty about redundancies and a couple of hundred people leaving under voluntary severance schemes, and others denied salary uptick in line with promotion. Yet the VC causing this got a nice bonus upon departure. In October 2023, the new VC claimed they had ‘turned a corner‘ and that compulsory redundancies were off the table, yet in October 2024 they were once again in shrinking mode and not ruling out compulsory redundancies. In November 2024 it transpired 170 colleagues would lose their jobs yet again.
  81. The University of Wales Trinity Saint David has gone through a round of Voluntary Severance already in 2024, which they reopened in November 2024. Their historic Lampeter campus is set to close, with all humanities teaching moving more than 20 miles away.
  82. The University of the West of England announced they needed 100 colleagues to leave via a ‘voluntary’ severance scheme. In January 2025, Bristol Old Vic Theatre School (validated by UWE) and key in ensuring education in drama, acting, and associated arts was available to students outside of London (and bringing us talents such as Olivia Colman, Jeremy Irons, and Daniel Day-Lewis), announced they will no longer taking be running their UG programmes from September 2025. All applicants for September 2025 will have their auditions fees returned.
  83. Winchester was served notice of proposed cuts. The university is proposing job cuts of up to 40 jobs and detrimental changes to the workload allocation model.
  84. Wolverhampton opened a Mutually Agreed Resignation Scheme in July 2024. This comes after they threatened 250 jobs in July 2022, to fill a £20 million deficit. 138 colleagues were made to leave. In Spring 2024, the university tried to cut research time for junior colleagues, thus drastically overturning what university is. In October 2024, senior management began further ‘organisational change’ putting about 35 academics at risk — alongside the reduction of staff via the ‘mutually agreed resignation scheme’ already.
  85. Worcester opened the second round of its voluntary severance scheme in the late Summer of 2024, after an initial round earlier in the academic year. There has been some restructuring, and to date there has been one School merger. Staff are worried about course cuts and redundancies being on the horizon, and whilst these have not yet been announced, the VC has not ruled the option out. The university has not opened its reward scheme or promotion scheme since 2022 and currently there is a freeze on future staff appointments. The University is also in the planning stages of incorporating a wholly owned subsidiary company to employ future staff who will not be allowed access to the Teacher’s Pension Scheme (TPS) or Local Government Pension Scheme (LGPS), instead being forced to accept an inferior defined contribution scheme where employer contributions will reduce significantly. This will create an inequitable, two-tier workforce, and staff are concerned that there will be pressure for existing staff to be moved on to the inferior scheme.
  86. The University of York had a Voluntary Severance Scheme for staff in Professional Services in 2023, and a wider voluntary severance scheme in April 2024. Management never articulated how many members of staff they wanted to leave. But in May 2024, they noted they’re looking to cut £34 million, which would amount to between 400-700 members of staff. In September 2024, the University Executive Board announced moving to compulsory redundancy of 30 academic posts. Their UCU Branch wrote this open letter indicating the lack of consultation. By December, they had managed to get the compulsory redundancies back off the table.
  87. The University of York St John announced they’re going to find £4-5m in savings this financial year, on the back of staff. This comes after multiple rounds of Voluntary Severance Schemes in previous years.
In recent years
  1. The University for the Creative Arts closed their campus in Rochester and moved to colleges in Surrey. This move resulted in redundancies and programme closures. The building in Rochester is now possibly being turned into flats.
  2. Gloustershire made people redundant in the summer of 2023, after cutting 100 posts in 2018.
  3. Leeds Conservatoire cut heavily in its Music and Performing Arts School in 2023, getting rid of about a fifth of its full time academic staff.
  4. Liverpool Institute for Performing Arts threatened compulsory redundancies in 2022; these became a voluntary severance scheme.
  5. Nottingham Trent was under threat of restructuring and the resulting redundancies in the winter of 2024. At the end of February, the branch could announce that no compulsory redundancies would take place, but they lost valued colleagues through voluntary severance and early retirement, and some full-time roles were reduced to fractional appointments. The restructure of the School of Arts and Humanities led to job losses in April 2024. This wasn’t the first restructure, following one in Modern Languages in 2021.
  6. Salford
  7. There were multiple consultations at Southampton in 2017-18, with both voluntary severance and redundan compulsory redundancies.

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thing47 · 16/01/2025 16:39

BeAzureAnt · 16/01/2025 16:26

I'm not doing this whatsoever. You are the one resorting to name calling, no?

well you clearly are. At no point did i say anything which could be construed as saying that relevant experience could not be mentioned on a reference. It just has to be factually accurate.

the PT in question here does not know whether the student has that experience or not, and didn't attempt to find out.

BeAzureAnt · 16/01/2025 16:39

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Why do you assume you are the teacher about other people's spiritual beliefs, and that you are necessarily correct? I mean those books may have helped you, but they don't help everyone. I don't think Mumsnet is really the place to prosleytise.

BeAzureAnt · 16/01/2025 16:40

thing47 · 16/01/2025 16:39

well you clearly are. At no point did i say anything which could be construed as saying that relevant experience could not be mentioned on a reference. It just has to be factually accurate.

the PT in question here does not know whether the student has that experience or not, and didn't attempt to find out.

But we don't know. We have the mum making a claim. Is the mum an unbiased source?

PlopSofa · 16/01/2025 16:43

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Are you a psychologist? What are your qualifications?

People want me to take being insulted. I'm not going to do it, and I will respond to each and every insult and question it.

I don't need any help whatsoever, but I don't need to condescended to, called names, or told what spiritual books I should read for the good of my soul.

PlopSofa · 16/01/2025 16:47

And apparently every British person is like this, passive aggressive, according to your first post.

Why hang out on a British forum if you clearly don’t like this kind of behaviour and ALL of us are like this.

Way to get yourself worked up… it’s certainly been effective judging by the number of your posts.

thing47 · 16/01/2025 16:48

No, clearly she isn't. But thats kind of how an open forum works, you have to take the OP on trust to a certain extent and respond accordingly and as one sees fit. If you question the basic premise of that then the whole thing falls apart.

I was the first person to suggest that it was cock-up rather than conspiracy and not ascribe any nefarious behaviour to the PT, and I stand by that. But it does sound like he has been a bit slapdash and made mistakes. Which isn't great.

BeAzureAnt · 16/01/2025 16:49

PlopSofa · 16/01/2025 16:47

And apparently every British person is like this, passive aggressive, according to your first post.

Why hang out on a British forum if you clearly don’t like this kind of behaviour and ALL of us are like this.

Way to get yourself worked up… it’s certainly been effective judging by the number of your posts.

Well, do you deny passive aggression is used in the UK? Do you deny there is historical precedence for it? I'm not worked up whatsoever. This is a partially a sociological exercise, and it is confirming my hypothesis beautifully.

BeAzureAnt · 16/01/2025 16:49

thing47 · 16/01/2025 16:48

No, clearly she isn't. But thats kind of how an open forum works, you have to take the OP on trust to a certain extent and respond accordingly and as one sees fit. If you question the basic premise of that then the whole thing falls apart.

I was the first person to suggest that it was cock-up rather than conspiracy and not ascribe any nefarious behaviour to the PT, and I stand by that. But it does sound like he has been a bit slapdash and made mistakes. Which isn't great.

Good, I'm glad we agree that the OP is not an unbiased source. She's been given loads of suggestions on how to deal with the problem. Great.

PlopSofa · 16/01/2025 16:53

BeAzureAnt · 16/01/2025 16:46

Are you a psychologist? What are your qualifications?

People want me to take being insulted. I'm not going to do it, and I will respond to each and every insult and question it.

I don't need any help whatsoever, but I don't need to condescended to, called names, or told what spiritual books I should read for the good of my soul.

I’ve not personally “insulted” you. YOU took offence to a general post I made. You’re overly sensitive and seeing criticism where it doesn’t exist and then start up with your finger wagging.

You’ve plastered 70 million people with the brush of “passive aggressive”.

That at the very least is condescending and dehumanising to reduce an entire population like that.

Youre thinking is black and white and victim-based. You see yourself as the one without fault but everyone else is to blame.

A very dangerous psychological path to choose, and yes it is a choice.

thing47 · 16/01/2025 16:54

Yeah, I actually thought your list of possible courses of action was about right, in broad terms. But to be fair to the OP she did say right at the start that her DD was planning to talk to the PT - what she was asking for were suggestions on how best to do that.

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