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Truth about vaccinations quotes

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alwayssaythanku · 20/01/2005 00:22

These are quoted from www.vaccinetruth.org

"Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world, indeed its the only thing that ever does." Margaret Mead

For us to bombard a newborn baby with a whole battery of vaccines as, in effect, their very first immunologic experience I think is reckless beyond measure. I would say it borders on the criminal.
Dr. Moscowitz

Cost for vaccinations: $10.00
Cost of trip to McDonalds after vaxing: $10.00
Cost of hospitalization after reacting to vax: $300,000.00*
Cost of avoiding vaxes and knowing your child never reacts: PRICELESS

  • Actual bill United States

What is the name of the test that can be given to determine if a child can safely receive a vaccine?

It's called a breath test. You hold a mirror in front of the child and if condensation appears, they are still alive and cannot "safely" receive a vaccine.

Steve

Vaccination is a medical procedure that causes permanent and irreversible modification of the immune system

"The only shot my son needs is a shot at the future."

......Lori Mcilwain

Modern medicine" may well be defined as "the experimental study of what
happens when poisonous chemicals are placed into malnourished human
bodies." A. Saul Contributing Editor,
Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine (www.orthomed.org)

You can always put the vaccines in... but you can never take them out.

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ruty · 24/01/2005 14:34

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alwayssaythanku · 24/01/2005 14:34

Yes, its a personal one, of course. But do you need an expert before you go to the ballot polls to mark an x for the PM? Isnt he shaping your future, dosent his party have your child's life in their hands to some degree? Thus, if a group wants to post their website based on the concerns of thousands of people why cant they. Or is it because we mere people arent allowed to have an opinion on our own medical health.

Again its about power and control.

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alwayssaythanku · 24/01/2005 14:37

By the way, wigwam, if your GP who trained for 7-10 years is such an expert, perhaps you could ask him, just for me, how the vaccination works, what its effects are on the body, and what proof there is that it wont harm your child. Better yet, ask your nurse at the surgery or the health visitor. It isnt even the doctors who administer this junk. Its health visitors and nurses. Maybe you could ask them. They are administering it, they should be responsible for it.

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Caligula · 24/01/2005 14:40

I think as well we need to remember that GP's don't have specialist knowledge.

A friend of mine diagnosed herself with MS and went and told her GP she had it after surfing the internet. She'd been going with various complaints for 10 years before that, and he'd never noticed. (Having said that, it is a very difficult disease to diagnose.)

To be fair to both ASTU and the medical profession, they are beginning to pay lip service to the idea that patients SHOULD take more responsibility for their own health. And some of them really believe it.

FairyMum · 24/01/2005 14:40

I had a look at your website and I don't see what's so amazing about unvaccinated children being healthy (if you read the link to the amazing success story of the woman who didn't vaccinate her kids). Not vaccinating your child only becomes an issue when a lot of people choose not to. At the moment most people opt to vaccinate and this protects unvaccinated children also.

Also, if you have never been ill, then of course you can approach things in a holistic manner. It's easy to say if you have never been ill. One day you might need traditional medicine. I hope you will know when you do as I have a few personal horror stories about people who didn't.

alwayssaythanku · 24/01/2005 14:40

Furthermore the medical council, like mumsnet in this thread is very cliquey. They stick together. How many people did Shipman kill, before they copped on? How many doctors who kill dont lose their practice certificate? How do you really know that any particular doctor hasnt been hauled up for malpractice. They dont exactly place an advert in the surgery about it. There are crap doctors and there are good ones. Everybodys grandmother is an expert today. It is used so much it has lost any value it may have had.

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MrsDoolittle · 24/01/2005 14:42

Oh for Goodness Sake!! Is this still going on?

flashingnose · 24/01/2005 14:43

My Grandad smoked 80 a day until he was 102 therefore smoking can't be bad for you.

WigWamBam · 24/01/2005 14:45

I DID ask my GP about the vaccinations, I asked the nurses, and I also read an awful lot of books and researched in as much detail as I could. No-one goes into this without looking at the pros and cons. I was happy with the information that I read, and I made an informed decision which I still feel, for me and my child, was the right one. Yes, there are sometimes problems with vaccinations, no-one questions that. But there are also problems which are caused by the wild viruses, which are often ignored by anti-vaccination propaganda.

You are asking for us to respect your decision - and I do. What you decide to do for your child is your choice and yours alone, and I have no problem with whatever decision anyone choses to make. What I object to is aggressive and confrontational posts which do not afford me and others who have made the choice I have made that same respect in return.

alwayssaythanku · 24/01/2005 14:45

Fairy mum, for those who wont believe there is no convincing. I dont get your post???? I am not saying cause my kids are healthy that vaccinations arent needed. I am saying my kids are healthy with no vaccinations. They have been exposed to all kinds. There are 17 children in extended family (brothers and sisters kids). None are sick. None have ever been seriously sick. Also they live all over the world and some are widely travelled. I am not going to make a case study out of MY family. It means nothing. But, if it aint broke dont fix it.

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CarrieG · 24/01/2005 14:48

Hear hear WigWamBam.

alwayssaythanku · 24/01/2005 14:50

Just read your post. I dont know if you are speaking for yourself or for the group. Yeah, maybe you arent interested. Thats the problem. The majority of parents have thought about this issue but arent "interested" (translate, couldnt be bothered) to look up the facts. And why arent they bothered? Because at the end of the day, its far easier to leave this very stressful decision in the hands of the experts (doctors) If you believe I am wrong just look at the parents who still vaccinate. The propaganda is working.

And let me qualify before anyone takes offence. By saying the Majority of people, i am talking about the public. Obviously people in this thread are thinking about it one way or another.

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bubble99 · 24/01/2005 14:51

Within the last 2 years, in north London, there was an outbreak of measles - coinciding with significantly lowered MMR vaccination rates in the same area. If, as has been suggested, vaccinations do not work - what would account for this increase in reported cases of measles?

HappyMumof2 · 24/01/2005 14:52

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FairyMum · 24/01/2005 14:52

I am talking about the story on the link you priovided. ThinkTwice.

And my point was that when we all vaccinate, then of course it's safe for a selected few not to vaccinate. Diseases like polio hardly exists in our part of the world anymore thanks to vaccines, but is a major problem in the rest of the world. I am sure you are aware. I have asked you what you think about vaccinating children in the third world, but not had an answer. I am interested to know if you think they should have aholistic approach to their health too. Just to see how far you would go in your imo ridiculous claims......

WigWamBam · 24/01/2005 14:52

Who was that last post aimed at, astu? Because I haven't seen anyone here who has said they don't care.

HappyMumof2 · 24/01/2005 14:52

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alwayssaythanku · 24/01/2005 14:54

Wigwam, there is nothing I can say in an internet web site that is going to seriously affect any decision you make in life. Is there something wrong with heated discussion?? If those who think they have made the correct decision, fair enough. I personally dont think vaccination is a CORRECT decision, in terms of aiding health. Just like i dont like hearing people say vaccinations prevent disease you might not like to read my posts saying the opposite. Obviously we are all interested cause we are still on this thread. This problem didnt start with me and its not going to end with me. There are hundreds of thousands of people who think like me.

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alwayssaythanku · 24/01/2005 14:55

Yes, i think they should have a holistic approach fairy mum. They should have clean water, proper shelter, literacy programs and fresh food to eat. Just like I do.

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MistressMary · 24/01/2005 14:56

I know I cannot be bothered [translates into not interested] with your preaching.
They may think like you, fortunately they are more tactful in their approach.

alwayssaythanku · 24/01/2005 14:56

Happy, maybe you think you are going to miss something that is why you are still here. I started this thread and i aim to finish it.

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ruty · 24/01/2005 14:56

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MistressMary · 24/01/2005 14:57

Finish it then.

HappyMumof2 · 24/01/2005 14:59

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alwayssaythanku · 24/01/2005 14:59

The real truth about vaccinations is not going to be very palatable to those who are afraid of them or to those who believe they are for the greater good. Mincing words achieves what? It all comes out the same. Again its not the presentation you disagree with, its the content.

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