Truth about vaccinations quotes

[alwayssaythanku]

These are quoted from www.vaccinetruth.org

"Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world, indeed its the only thing that ever does." Margaret Mead

For us to bombard a newborn baby with a whole battery of vaccines as, in effect, their very first immunologic experience I think is reckless beyond measure. I would say it borders on the criminal.
Dr. Moscowitz

Cost for vaccinations: $10.00
Cost of trip to McDonalds after vaxing: $10.00
Cost of hospitalization after reacting to vax: $300,000.00*
Cost of avoiding vaxes and knowing your child never reacts: PRICELESS

• Actual bill United States

What is the name of the test that can be given to determine if a child can safely receive a vaccine?

It's called a breath test. You hold a mirror in front of the child and if condensation appears, they are still alive and cannot "safely" receive a vaccine.

Steve

Vaccination is a medical procedure that causes permanent and irreversible modification of the immune system

"The only shot my son needs is a shot at the future."

......Lori Mcilwain

Modern medicine" may well be defined as "the experimental study of what
happens when poisonous chemicals are placed into malnourished human
bodies." A. Saul Contributing Editor,
Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine (www.orthomed.org)

You can always put the vaccines in... but you can never take them out.

"The beauty of reading on the internet is that you dont have to "hear" me. You are not listening to me. When you see my i.d. come up, just bypass it." As stated by Alwayssaythankyou

Now that is a piece of good advice.

Well said pixiefish.

Ask yourself why when you are pregnant, you are so careful to stay healthy. You dont smoke, you dont drink, you stay off salt, you eat healthy food, drink plenty of water, and take vitamins. Then after 8 weeks and you have this beautiful bundle in your arms, you inject him/her with a cocktail of toxins just to make sure s/he stays healthy. Absolute nonsense.

ASTU - just to let you know, and others who like bringing up the thalidomide issue, that happened before there was any regulation of medicines at all and was one of the key reasons that the Medicines Control Agency and the Committee on Safety of Medicines (MCA is now MHRA btw) was established in 1968. Since then, all drugs undergo huge scrutiny before licenses are issued and their safety is monitored continually after that. There are strict regulations about what pharma companies must inform the MHRA about when it comes to safety (and a whole load of other issues - defects etc) and these are bound by law - therefore any company witholding anything that they shouldn't is liable to prosecution and imprisonment.

alwayssaythankyou

You are american aren't you?

Well, I believe the vaccines do work and I contribute to Unicef's vaccination programme every month to help vaccinate children across the globe who aren't as lucky as us to have access to these vaccines.

Ick, I have been away for a bit and was hoping this thread had died. ASTU's posts are very indicative of what i encountered on mothering.com - which is why I left.

ASTU, if you are truly not a troll, you may find a more receptive audience there. And, FWIW, even though I am not by any means totally pro-vax I will be taking your advice from here on out and bypassing your i.d. in the future.

When the drug licensing boards and the drug companies have similar philosophies, almost identical board members and very disingenious lobbyists in parliament, who cares. By the way i am not american, what is your point?

Does anyone think that the power of the drug companies dosent cross over into parliament with back benchers, etc lobbying for their profit making? In america, they have huge funding for their lobbyists. The confines of super corporations do not remain within the four walls of their head office. They are out there, making decisions for you and me in every way possible. Sheesh.

Kangamummy, I do think he/she is American. Just one more reason for the rest of us here to be embarrassed to admit we live here.

asty you said in an earlier post "you don't have to believe what i tell you this site is for opinion " but when people express an opinion that you do not like they get shouted down and bombarded with political propaganda. did you honestly expect to come on here and for everyone to say " oh wow she's fantastic knows all there is to know so she must be right we won't have our baby vaccinated then?" very very scary !!

Fairy mum, does that include the oral (live) vaccine that the american government "kindly" gave to Africa? The vaccine that is widely reknowned for being the biggest cause of polio in the states today? Not good enough for americans so they gave it to a third world country. (Irish News 12 October 1999)

Frankly - b**cks to your first comment. I worked at the MCA in drug safety and sat on all the CSM meetings discussing licensing and safety issues. Pharma Co profits and wellbeing were nowhere on the agenda.

jabberwocky

I havent read all the thread

and I deffo do not want to offend americans

I was just curious and nosey really

ASTY, I actually agree with quite a lot of what you are saying, but not how you are saying it.

I think your posts were quite shock horror, as if no-one on Mumsnet had ever discussed the issues before.

I put it down to you being new and unused to the conventions of this site.

Also, many of your posts are really long and psychologically, many people just can't be bothered to wade through all that. That's where links are useful, because if people are interested in your arguments, they can pursue it themselves (think that point might have been made before in one or other of these recent threads).

Sorry if you've been disappointed by the reaction to you, but you come over as rather evangelical and that does tend to get a negative reaction. How many of us invite the Jehovah's Witnesses into our homes on Sunday mornings? For me, reading some of your posts arouses the same desperate need to run for the bus, even though I actually agree with the substance of some of what you're saying.

when did i ever say I was right. and by the way, I have been "shot" down repeatedly so how does that enter into the equation. The point being, i have posted loads of information which very few have read methinks. Rather you have shot the messenger and the message. I have never said YOU have to take my advice, or YOU are stupid. I have said it dosent make any sense based on the lack of evidence to inject your kids with toxins.

Basically this is about web personality. Mine is not admired. Sorry, vaccinations to me are not a tea party. For a new mum, it could be a life and death situation. That is my opinion. All i have said is MY opinion. It is classic political strategy to tear apart the presentation and disregard the content. I love it.

No offence taken. I thought he/she was when I read the very first post. We are getting better at recognizing that element of our society over here...

Gobblydegook, my point exactly. Thanks for clarifying that.

So you don't think we should vaccinate children in the third world aganst diseases such as polio and measles?

? I meant the wellbeing of pharma co's was not on the agenda. The only thing up for consideration was the safety of the drug out in the general population.

at caligula's "desperate need to run for the bus"

Uh, fairy, my point was that the live oral virus is or was the greatest cause of polio in the U.S. It remains live and can be passed from child to child through faeces and even through the mouth. They got rid of it before its best before date by shipping it off to Africa, populated with an already immuno compromised population.

I thought we had all been vaccinated by live polio? I have not heard of the American case you are quoted. Horrid if that's true of course. My question: Do you think we should vaccine children in developing countries since you don't think vaccines work?

Oh ASTU, I wasn't trying to construct a classic political strategy, I was just trying to make you aware of why you and your arguments are being met with such a wall of hostility - you might try a different tack next time and actually get people to listen to you/ read you.

I'm really not part of a pharmaceutical conspiracy, honest.

well, it would be good if doctors refused to give vaccinations, they shouldn't really prescribe any medications, they can all have serious side effects. How many of you have taken painkillers like diclofenac,brufen, indomethacin??? I have seen several people dying because of it!!! So stop taking it and certainly don't give it to children,(BTW, yes a pharmaceutical comapany did withdraw rofecoxib few months ago as it was found to have increased cardiovascular risks and its shares went down as a result of it).
In fact you don't really need any doctors "I dont believe there is anything that me as a non-clinically trained person, cannot figure out" . Hopefully people would stop treating doctors like god and spend some more time on the internet (that is what I am doing at least).

Only problem:my dh would be out of a job and not get any more money from all the pharmaceutical companies, so I wouldn't have time and money to spend so much time on the internet (well, may be that wouldn't be so bad)....

sorry pinkdiamond, I better spend some time with dd and ds now..