Truth about vaccinations quotes

[alwayssaythanku]

These are quoted from www.vaccinetruth.org

"Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world, indeed its the only thing that ever does." Margaret Mead

For us to bombard a newborn baby with a whole battery of vaccines as, in effect, their very first immunologic experience I think is reckless beyond measure. I would say it borders on the criminal.
Dr. Moscowitz

Cost for vaccinations: $10.00
Cost of trip to McDonalds after vaxing: $10.00
Cost of hospitalization after reacting to vax: $300,000.00*
Cost of avoiding vaxes and knowing your child never reacts: PRICELESS

• Actual bill United States

What is the name of the test that can be given to determine if a child can safely receive a vaccine?

It's called a breath test. You hold a mirror in front of the child and if condensation appears, they are still alive and cannot "safely" receive a vaccine.

Steve

Vaccination is a medical procedure that causes permanent and irreversible modification of the immune system

"The only shot my son needs is a shot at the future."

......Lori Mcilwain

Modern medicine" may well be defined as "the experimental study of what
happens when poisonous chemicals are placed into malnourished human
bodies." A. Saul Contributing Editor,
Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine (www.orthomed.org)

You can always put the vaccines in... but you can never take them out.

No, I quite understand that And to be honest that is possibly the secret of your inadvertant success. You put forward your view, state your reasons in a well organised, well thought out way (and what I would expect from our alma mater ) and let people make up their own minds. Which is always the best way to win friends and influence people. Even if you never intended to do so

Ranting just pisses people off, however well intentioned the rant.....and I know I have ranted at times

As far as I'm concerned, for most children (not all) being vaccinated has far less risks than not being vaccinated, although the medical profession need to take some of the blame for everyone being so worried and confused, and start being more honest with their info.

The only thing that I really disagree with and really annoys me is when someone's decided not to vaccinate without spending a minute finding out the facts or thinking about it.

If you've made a reasonably informed choice then I think whatever your decision, its the right one. If you haven't bothered to try to be even the least bit informed then you're an idiot, simple as that.

Also, one needs to take some websites with a grain of salt. While researching Prevnar I ran across a very convincing site. But, I checked out the studies that he was referring to and, although some of his statements were accurate, a very important one was not.

alwayssaythanku, where's your evidence that
'in many many cases that children die following vaccinations, particularly the HIB jab'? Or that SIDS has ANYTHING to do with vaccinations?

Because it's not true. OK, if you don't want to vaccinate fair enough, but don't try to terrify other people with wild and untrue scare stories.

Andrew Wakefield, the guy behind the MMR scare, did NOT say vaccines kill children. He said he had found vaccine-strain measles in the gut of autistic children and he called for further research to see if MMR might, in a tiny number of cases, cause autism. He didn't say it did, but that there needed to be further research. He didn't say 'don't vaccinate your children' he said single jabs might be a good idea while there was still any uncertainty about MMR.

lockets - i've spoken to a few people who've just watched a couple of news reports or read a couple of scare stories and basically said 'ok, we won't bother with the vacc's then, these diseases aren't really around anymore anyway' - which infuriates me, I don't think that's being informed and would you make any other decision just on the basis of passing hearsay?

I think most people are responsible parents and get some facts first, in which case I really respect their decision, whether I agree with it or not. But there do seem to be a scarily high number of people who just go by hearsay, which IMO is terrible. That also includes people who get the vacc's just because it's the 'done thing'. IMO that's also stupid, it's basically just doing something because someone else tells you to, without knowing anything about it.

There do seem to be a growing number of people who just see a jab schedule in their baby book, trot along, have it done then forget about it and wouldn't know what it was if their life depended on it, terrifying!!!

I bet these people wouldn't buy a car without knowing the exact spec but they'll have their kids given injections without a clue about it, it makes no sense!!!

That's the sort of thing I keep hearing, literally turns my blood cold, sorry if that sounds dramatic but don't they realise how stupid it is!!!

Just wanted to point out that the SIDS organisation in Sweden recommend vaccinations. I have asked them directly as I was paranoid about SIDS and still am.

I find it quite scary that some people read these websites. I can see that they are very easily available to people and populist in its approach. They are very American, aren't they?

The whole thing is a minefield and if we as parenst have a choice as we do, then surely we have the right to the correct info for and against too.
Unfortunatley we have to wade through scare stories, news articles, hearsay, websites ( the good and the bad) and somehow try to glean what info we can and hopefully come to a decision regarding this.
It's a shame some people don't research for and against it may seem. And not quite a thing to be so flippant about either.
This goes back to my earlier point of it being clear what the jabs do and what are the pros and cons for each one. And from one source too.

jaberwocky: I think there are two reasons why people who choose to vaccinate get annoyed at people who don't. Firstly, vaccines don't have 100% effectiveness. So if we have an outbreak of measles, thanks to people who don't vaccinate, some vaccinated children may catch it. Some might even die. (Measles can be fatal.)

Secondly, having your children vaccinated is unpleasant. It feels unnatural to let someone stick your healthy child with a needle. Being reminded of this is unpleasant. I think this is a more likely reason, as few people realise vaccines aren't 100% effective.

I do vaccinate my children. I believe vaccines are (generally) good and reliable. Attitudes against vaccines are one of the reasons why polio is probably not going to be eliminated, despite coming quite close in the last year or so.

About people trotting along to the doctor to have the jab....well yes, because I don't have the medical or scientific knowledge to really understand how vaccines work. I don't know how most things in hospitals work. I have to trust the medical profession (within limist) and I do. I think a lot of people choose not to vaccinate because they have read about this or that compnant or think it's overloading the body's imumune system and this sounds scary, but they are just as ignorant as me and those who trot along.

Im a first time mum and Im worried sick about giving my DS MMR in particular, there are so many pro's and then so many cons, one day you see a program on TV about an autistic child whose parents swear that the MMR jab caused the condition, then the following week another program is aired about a child who was brain damaged and died from measles. I, for one have read and read and watched and listened and still I have no idea what to do !

lockets, I'm not trying to blame individuals. And I made clear, many children who catch measles will have been vaccinated, or will be too young for jabs. But to prevent outbreaks, we need herd immunity, which means as many people as possible immune. If 95% of the population are immune, outbreaks can't really spread, and the disease will die out. We've successfully done this with smallpox, and we could have done it with polio, except now we won't.

And yes, 5% of the population can be susceptible, but those 5% should be people who have medical reasons not to vaccinate (egg allergy, immunocompromised), or people for whom the vaccine didn't do its job.

If people thought that way when we were trying to eradicate smallpox, we'd still have it. And people thinking that way is one of the reasons we may end up with polio in the UK again.

But you know all this. Realistically, vaccination is an argument like breastfeeding/bottles, natural birth/c-section, or circumcision, it's unlikely anyone's mind will be changed, either way. I'm wandering off. (Insert imaginary wandering-off-without-anger emoticon)

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Which is also why breastfeeding mums should not be given it either.

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