Up the Apples and Pears - 10 / 10 club - all welcome

[FrannyandZooey]

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For anyone who wants a boost to their general health. The suggested goals are:

EAT 10 PORTIONS OF FRUIT AND VEGETABLES EVERY DAY - if you don't usually eat much fruit and veg I would build up gradually or you could upset your digestion.

DO (AT LEAST) 10 MINUTES OF EXERCISE EVERY DAY - can be yoga, stretching or something more energetic. The plan is that the idea of doing 10 minutes is not too daunting, and having started you may well find you want to do more.

There are no restrictions on what you eat so long as you get your 10 fruit and veg as well. The focus is not on weight loss but on improving our energy levels and hopefully our general mood and well-being. Sign up below and post here to tell us how you're getting on and how you are feeling.

Basic guidance on what constitutes a portion of fruit and veg here and you can download more detailed information by following the link at the very bottom of the page

yes yes the meet up is next on my list of Things To Organise. You are all very patient I must say. The [conflicted] is, they are taking us out for lunch, ds is excited, and that one Should Be Glad To See One's Parents. The flip side is, we have spent all morning cleaning the house, instead of doing something pleasant together, and I find seeing them very stressful.

MrsC I am glad you feel a lot better - the wheatgrass does sound the likely cause doesn't it?

and MrsC, no, you were right first time about good luck

Hello, hope everyone's feeling better, BBBEe and Mrs C hope the bug has gone, Avi, hope teh grey cloud has gone and you had a nice lunch. Franny, hope your parents visit went well. BBBee hope you haven't reached the psychotic bit.

I have the worst hangover i've ever had in my life. I don't really drink that much - not more than a couple of glasses of wine. Went to a party last night and got incredibly drunk for the first time in years - it seemed fine at the time. I went out at 8pm saying to dp that i didn't particularly want to go so i'd be home by ten. I staggered in at 3am, and had to cling to the bed as the room was spinning so fast. I'm having gradual snippets of the evening return and make me cringe with shame. Couldn't even get out of bed until 3pm, except to run to the bathroom. Oh dear. I remember calling a friends husband an arse, i remember being groped by another friends husband and kicking him in the shins. (fairly gently i think) Oh the school gates, the shame.

I was right about the eye thing, it's called something like pinguecula - harmless lesions, but have become inflamed, so got steroid drops. He said it's common in old people, but they're finding it more in people who spend a lot of time on computers - so i'm definitely cutting back. He said the inflammation will go with the drops, but the lesion could be permanent.

I am hideous. I'm pale green, with one red eye.

Poor Boco.

And the horrible eye thing too.

oh boco - don't worry - the hangover always makes the recall of these things much worse than it is. Sorry about your eye - there was me all 'oh it will be nothing blah blah'. Will it be there for like forever?

MrsC - I am confused - we are going to edinburgh this tues until fri so I assumed that we are there at different times - have I got that wrong. Would be lovely to meet but I understand that staying with friends it could just add another thing to do to the mix - I amstaying with friends and also my mum and dp so lots of dynamics going on. The best thing if we are there at the same time woul;d be to exchange mobile no like you said and the if I am say in coffee shop on royal mile could text and see if you are nearby type thing - if it works great - if not no problem! I went on scotsman site last night and have picked out:

for children:
'potted potter' all seven hp books in one show
'the big filling - this time it's pie-sonal' = we saw them last year they were fab
'talking pants' - dunno, but has 'pants' in the title!

for me:
'god's pottery saves the world'
'the naked potrait' at the scottish national portrait gallery
'jihad the musical'
'Georgian gift season' stuff from Georgian company

That's about it really and don't think I will get to all of it. I would like to see Stuart Lee if he is there. That's all my plans so far. How about you?

Well I am still ill but this is actually ill not just caffine withdrawal but still only had one cup today so probabbly would not be feeling this bad with usual intake. Have followed advice of Dr.Avi and got some decaff in .

NOW is it immoral to force DP to have decaff and not tell him? He would object big time if he knew.

I hardly ever see any of you on other threads on mumsnet - do we al go different places? I am hardly posting at all elsewhere.

Lionheart - why are you called lion heart? Are you terribly brave? If so will call on you when threads get scary.

F&Z at least you have a clean house as well as lunch. I would love a clean house.

Boco, poor hungover you, but on the bright side, it is quite liberating to call certain people twats rather than keep it all bottled up.
How's Zippi?
Mrs C, sorry wheatgrass doesn't agree with you, I had no idea it could have such an effect. I drank wheatgrass smoothies for a week when in New York and on my return DH (not given to such statements) commented, "wowo, your skin is luminous, it's amazing". never said that since, maybe I should juice my own wheatgrass but it seems such an almighty faff to DIY.
I've stopped posting on the wider MNet. I know what I believe about breastfeeding on demand, crontrolled crying makes me sad and I'd never do it, ditto smacking, and I have no energy for a discussion/fight on those topics, I leave that to others much more srticulate than me. I do find this thread full of people who are very wise and informed about the things i need to know so, why go elsewhere? I also have very little time to MNet, i have an enormopus work load and DH & I look after LO ourselves, we have no child care for now from choice. So, frankly, I don't have spare minutes to browse yet another interminanable "AIBU"? Was entertaining when DS was newborn and I needed to veg out a bit but now everything has to be for a reason, I can no longer just mooch in cyberspace.
My house is filthy. I just put my glasses on in the kitchen and then rapidy whipped them off again. Yikes! Best to be myopic in such an environment. Still, it must be good for LO's immune system (he's currently unvaccinated, until I sort out what is making his skin so angry and distressed, another point of controversy I can no longer be bothered to defend, my choice, end of.)
Here endeth Possum's sermon....

hi possum

glad it is not just me avoiding rest of mumsnet.

Oh plums - where from? are they nice ones? I saw greengages in sainsburys today.

My dad makes this fab marrow in a white sauce and it is - well marrow cooke dnad then stirred in a tasty white sauce - but it is relly really nice.

oooh, marrow recipes [interested emoticon]
Got the plums from a farm selling them by their gate. I think they are my favoruite fruit and I'd love to plant a plum tree in the garden. How long would it take for a plum tree sapling to produce fruit? Are they easy to care for or are they susceptible to lots of arborial diseases?

I have an occasional foray into the wider mumsnet because I am indeed brave

but I get a bit riled about certain things (like most people, I suppose) so often steer clear.

I have made a note about luminous wheatgrass.

interested in joining your thread, and after a quick scan read of the thread, all i can think of to say is

Alan Rickman's gay?!!! And BO-ey?

followed a long time later by: is anyone losing weight on this diet? Or is it purely health reasons?

hi whomping

it is to be healthy I don't think we talk much about weight on here apart from me moaning when I am premenstraul. If you read the thread and it made sense then you are oh so very welcome.

(but sometimes we don't eat much fruit and vegetables at all)

franny do you ever get toguh with us?

There is a boot-camp Franny.

Hello everyone

Welcome Whomping

BBBee I hope not because I have come off the wagon big time this weekend...

The weather is not helpful, I find, and having to eat out (did have a delicious meal last night but not great quantities of f&v) and a party today where I managed to track down some grapes and a stick of limp celery, among the sausgae rolls and sarnies (neitehr of which I ate, as I try not to eat wheat, especially just before my period which is due anytime yesterday)

Sorry everyone has been ill this weekend (except for teh self-induced, Boco..)

Actually your eye thing sounds horrible and ratehr scary.

F&Z hpe the family day went well.

BBBee I potter about on pther threads and lurk LOADS, but mostly can;t be botehred to post.

But it is worth venturing out, you know, I have learned so many useful things from other MNers, my triumph was how to make successful yorkshire puds a couple of weeks ago

Has there been a marrow controversy?

Welcome to whomp.

Where did you go for a five hour lunch avi?

An easy Sunday with plate-loads of veg.

Evening

Yes I think it is bootcamp time too. In the past I have been really good at f&v but not exercise... now I'm doing much better with exercise but there just doesn't seem to be room in my brain atm to be monitoring f&v intake. I don't have much enthusiasm for cooking, although undoubtedly upping f&v a bit more would make me feel better. Hmmm...

Franny I am glad the pub job wasn't as bad as you expected; you know when at school/uni I often really dreaded certain classes and sometimes contemplated not going because I thought it would be tough... but I always made myself go and it was never as bad as I anticipated and I always used to feel better about myself for having gone. (Do you still want to see a pic of my dp btw?)

Is FMV back yet? How long is she away for?

BBBee - I meant text each other with things that are fun but I did think you were there for a week so I guess we couldn't have met anyway. I am arriving as you leave on Friday! Your list sounds very comprehensive, as yet I have nothing to swap I'm afraid, I will try harder.

Possum - Were you really fine with the wheatgrass? I spoke to someone today and they said they had a spirulina and wheatgrass powder that made them feel strange. I suppose it affects everyone differently. Perhaps I am very toxic. I have decided it was that anyway and not starved myself for the usual 24 hours in fact quite the opposite.

Has anyone else read Toxic childhood? I'm starting the woods one but I've found the tone of the first few pages a little annoying.

Boco - I'm concerned about this eye thing. Poor you.It's worrying that it's being noticed more in people using computers a lot. That'll be all of us then?

Three aplles, some grapes, a nectarine. Tomatoes with spring onion and coriander. Radishes, cucumber, mixed leaves, rocket spinach etc. Peach, grape and mango jelly.

Whomping - The aim is for health but naturally this tends to mean eating less junk and therefore may in time mean weight loss. For some (like me) this is a slow process but I am not one of the breastfeeding skinnies. While I am feeding, I am hungry. There are also lots of food ideas like banana and nut butters that I have discovered to be delicious although a spanner in the weight-loss works, despie being on rice cakes.

Who did recommend that to me? I am addicted to it now. Gits.

and I def need exercise bootcamp. I walk MILES but don't do anything aerobic at all. Dc's enjoyed a rainy walk today where fountains of water were coming through the concrete at the shops. Pretty, and hypnotic, in that apocolyptic kind of way.

BBB I saw Stuart Lee one year at Embra. I saw Richard Herring another year (Talking Cock) and also Jeff Green who was VERY funny. I'll just do one of these again because I am very jealous of people going there. I think I need to arrange a trip soon myself to get my fix of the place...

Mrs C, I had the wheatgrass as an ingredient in mainly fruit &* veg smoothies, maybe if I'd upped the wheatgrass component I might have been ill too? Don't know. I don't smoke (never have),nor drink alcohol (sob, makes DS/s rashes flare instantly), no black tea or coffee, and back then I ate very healthily, no cake or Hula Hoop binges, come to think of it I was also two stone lighter and a yoga bendy bod. Sigh. I was a different person physiologically before I had DS. Now I'm stuffed full of bad carbs & stress/exhaustion/cortisol overload and wheatgrass would probably send me into a spin.
Managed about 7/10 today. Exercise was walking a screaming, teeething DS round the park in the sling in the rain for two (yes, TWO) hours, in my pink stripey pjamas at 7am becasue i'd been up since 3am with him and I was past caring what the neighbours think about my nightwear. God I could do with some cake.....

Oh-kayyyyy

boot camp it is then you great bunch of perverts

only I am worried I will not be around much to crack the whip; I will do my best though.

I am hardly on any other threads either - I seem to have less time these days and it is just so much more pleasant on this thread than on anywhere else. Something about hiding on here is bothering me a bit, though, probably vanity as I quite like being well-known on the site and now I am sure no-one has a clue who I am.

Hope everyone feels better than they did earlier. Especially Boco. I wish we had heard from Zippi and Lullaby.