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General election 2024

The Result

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RedToothBrush · 04/07/2024 21:54

Exit poll in 5 mins.

Pull up a chair.

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ghostyslovesheets · 04/07/2024 23:04

anotherside · 04/07/2024 22:55

I’m not sure they did. I think most people voted in order to get back immigration control from the EU back to Westminster - mission accomplished. Not the same as controlling illegal immigration. Don’t forget sovereignty of law making was also a big factor.

But Illegal immigration IS controlled - it's illegal! I think you might mean legitimate asylum claims - which is perfectly legal

itsjustbiology · 04/07/2024 23:05

I am very interested to know about voter apathy ? How many said not voting and they stuck to it..be very interesting to know

ageratum1 · 04/07/2024 23:06

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Well he is a dumbass then! Labour had 202 seats at the last election and are predicted more than double that tonight!

Jutemat · 04/07/2024 23:06

Eurgh Wes Streeting is such a C unit. Need to switch off BBC.

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 04/07/2024 23:06

SuePreemly · 04/07/2024 22:57

Looking at the Sky predictor we will be stuck with the useless Tory MP again. Sigh.

Same - solidarity! 👊

PrincessTeaSet · 04/07/2024 23:06

RedToothBrush · 04/07/2024 23:02

Reform's target seats in order:
1 Barnsley North
2 Hartlepool
3 Barnsley South
4 Doncaster North
5 Easington
6 South Shields
7 Rotherham
8 Normanton and Hemsworth
9 Blaenau Gwent and Rhymney
10 Houghton and Sunderland South
11 Caerphilly
12 Hull East
13 Wigan
14 Pontypridd
15 Neath and Swansea East
16 Washington and Gateshead South
17 Pontefract, Castleford and Knottingley
18 Jarrow and Gateshead East
19 Toerfaen
20 Hull West and Haltemprice

20 is too close to call on the exit.
But 12 is looking Labour as is 10 and 4.

What is it about these places I wonder? Lots of poverty and deprivation but there are equally deprived places on Merseyside and they always vote labour. Do the places on this list have some particular issues that push them towards reform? Lots of immigrants or particularly bad NHS?

RedToothBrush · 04/07/2024 23:07

The first declarations are in areas which are high on Reforms hit list. That should give us some clarity fairly quickly.

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NotJinxingAnything · 04/07/2024 23:07

PrincessTeaSet · 04/07/2024 23:01

I am aware of several people who voted Brexit who thought the effect would be fewer Muslims. I don't think people understood that fewer EU migrants would mean more Chinese, Indian etc migrants.

I hope that labour can get these asylum seekers processed and either resettled or deported within a much shorter time frame than currently. I don't think I'd be keen on groups of aimless adult men hanging around in my town either, whatever their origin. And obviously it's pretty rubbish for the asylum seekers too.

The days after Brexit were very scary for an awful lot of non-white people with delightful Leave voters crowing about how they were going to be deported imminently. It must have come as a horrible shock to the Leavers to discover that, on the contrary, the proportion of Commonwealth immigration actually rose.

HansHolbein · 04/07/2024 23:08

Does anyone know a rough time when the result is officially announced and the new PM makes a statement? 5am? 9am? Tomorrow afternoon? It’s my first time, sorry.

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 04/07/2024 23:08

ageratum1 · 04/07/2024 23:06

Well he is a dumbass then! Labour had 202 seats at the last election and are predicted more than double that tonight!

He's not a dumbass. He just understands our electoral system. 🙄

The tory vote has split and the effect of FPTP means that this has a huge impact on seats, even if labour only get a small amount more votes than 2019.

I'm going to be interested to see how the popular vote compares to 2019, 2017 and 2015.

PrincessTeaSet · 04/07/2024 23:09

ghostyslovesheets · 04/07/2024 23:04

But Illegal immigration IS controlled - it's illegal! I think you might mean legitimate asylum claims - which is perfectly legal

It's not controlled at all - the small boats are illegal immigrants. Once here they can claim asylum but up to that point they are illegal

No33 · 04/07/2024 23:09

HansHolbein · 04/07/2024 23:08

Does anyone know a rough time when the result is officially announced and the new PM makes a statement? 5am? 9am? Tomorrow afternoon? It’s my first time, sorry.

All votes expected by 7am. But sometimes need recounts etc. which there may be many this time around

YaWeeFurryBastard · 04/07/2024 23:09

HansHolbein · 04/07/2024 23:08

Does anyone know a rough time when the result is officially announced and the new PM makes a statement? 5am? 9am? Tomorrow afternoon? It’s my first time, sorry.

Usually by about 4/5am there’s a good idea of how it’s going to go and the losing party concedes by making a speech outside their home in their constituency.

longtompot · 04/07/2024 23:09

@HansHolbein here is a very loose run down of the night

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx8279n2dz2o

RedToothBrush · 04/07/2024 23:10

PrincessTeaSet · 04/07/2024 23:06

What is it about these places I wonder? Lots of poverty and deprivation but there are equally deprived places on Merseyside and they always vote labour. Do the places on this list have some particular issues that push them towards reform? Lots of immigrants or particularly bad NHS?

Former mining towns.

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golf7 · 04/07/2024 23:10

Here for this campaigns portillo moment

Rizzo81 · 04/07/2024 23:10

PrincessTeaSet · 04/07/2024 23:06

What is it about these places I wonder? Lots of poverty and deprivation but there are equally deprived places on Merseyside and they always vote labour. Do the places on this list have some particular issues that push them towards reform? Lots of immigrants or particularly bad NHS?

Lack of education, lack of critical thinking, easily swayed by social media and fake news stories. If it’s been a historically racist area it does tend to bleed down through generations and hold tight. Also thinks like lack of access to different cultures especially through things like the arts, music, travel. Can make worlds feel very small.
if places have also been historically very white and had a sharp increase in immigration it always leads to feelings of unease and distrust.

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 04/07/2024 23:10

CaveMum · 04/07/2024 22:55

I think they said on TRIP a week or so ago that the election basically hinged on about 130,000 people.

They say the US election will come down to about 600,000 people in the swing states.

We need a more proportional system

ghostyslovesheets · 04/07/2024 23:10

PrincessTeaSet · 04/07/2024 23:09

It's not controlled at all - the small boats are illegal immigrants. Once here they can claim asylum but up to that point they are illegal

Nope - they are asylum seekers who can arrive here any way they like - if we processed them swiftly and sent those who had no claim home - that would mean more people able to work and pay tax and less people rotting in hotels with no means of self support.

Charlie2121 · 04/07/2024 23:11

cardibach · 04/07/2024 23:01

Not really. Decisions are made by those who turn up. Those who expressed a preference gave Labour a big majority.

Not sure of voter turnout % but of those who did vote the split, if the exit poll is correct, is:

Labour 36%
Conservative 25%
Reform 17%
Lib Dem 9%
Greens 6%
others combined 7%

Labour has lost previous elections with a higher % share of the vote than that.

If a right of centre coalition is formed then Labour will only last 1 term.

LunaDeBallona · 04/07/2024 23:11

BiggerBoat1 · 04/07/2024 22:41

Stupid comment. They are racist, misogynistic and homophobic. How are they good news for women in any way?

I haven’t found them racist, misogynistic or homophobic.
Flinging round insults about people who have different political views to you is hardly democratic is it??
And my initial comment ISNT stupid because they DO know what a woman is -which is more than the precious Labour Party do, that mumsnet users seem to worship . David Lammy as Foreign Secretary makes his views on what a woman is so well. But of course HES not called misogynistic - or any other slurs - is he?

Clafoutie · 04/07/2024 23:11

fungipie · 04/07/2024 22:05

funny - wow, I am not laughing, at all. Gives me the shivers.

Yes exactly. What is funny?

PoliticalCanvasser · 04/07/2024 23:12

OneOfThoseOldFashionedWomen · 04/07/2024 22:12

A total collapse of the SNP is the one good result. Labour should be mindful.

As they should of the reform vote. Don't castigate people for voting for them, ask why people feel like they need too

This, 1000%. Don't just tell them they are stupid and thick, that is no way to run a society and it is exactly why brexit happened, because people felt so disenfranchised. Why have people turned to Farage and what can you do to bring them back, rather than alienate them further?

Alicewinn · 04/07/2024 23:12

PrincessTeaSet · 04/07/2024 23:01

I am aware of several people who voted Brexit who thought the effect would be fewer Muslims. I don't think people understood that fewer EU migrants would mean more Chinese, Indian etc migrants.

I hope that labour can get these asylum seekers processed and either resettled or deported within a much shorter time frame than currently. I don't think I'd be keen on groups of aimless adult men hanging around in my town either, whatever their origin. And obviously it's pretty rubbish for the asylum seekers too.

You do realise we’re an ageing population with a declining birth rate that will need immigrants to be our doctors, nurses, carers? E.g jobs no sane british person would do ?

PrincessTeaSet · 04/07/2024 23:13

NotJinxingAnything · 04/07/2024 23:07

The days after Brexit were very scary for an awful lot of non-white people with delightful Leave voters crowing about how they were going to be deported imminently. It must have come as a horrible shock to the Leavers to discover that, on the contrary, the proportion of Commonwealth immigration actually rose.

Yes, also for white foreigners. Several German and other EU origin friends and colleagues were told to go home in the days after the Brexit referendum. Mind you the government took a similar tone so who can blame them. A colleague who's lived here since 1979, paid all taxes, had indefinite leave to remain, married to a British citizen, received a home office letter telling her she was being asked to leave. A mistake apparently.

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