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General election 2024

Middle class biological women prepare to be relegated to being second class citizens by the end of the week

519 replies

Mycatsmudge · 01/07/2024 09:38

The Labour Party is expected to win a huge majority in the GE on Thursday. My fears are their stance on trans rights which are being prioritised over those of biological women and this will risk our safety, opportunities and dignity. I also work in the NHS and read what is happening to the nurses in Darlington with horror.

My other concern is they have not been transparent on their plans on how to raise money for their spending pledges other than say they will invest and reap the benefit of green technology. This is not going to happen in the foreseeable future. I can only conclude we will be taxed even more but stealthy.

Then I read this in their manifesto:
‘Expansion of the Equality Act 2010Labour will implement the socioeconomic protected characteristic of the Equality Act, also the socioeconomic duty under Section 1 of the Equality Act and ensure equality impact assessments of government policy are conducted.5 Jun 2024’
To me this means richer areas will get less money from government for public services than poorer areas. I live in an area which is very boringly middle class but our public services are already cut to the bone(bin collections fortnightly, potholes left for months, all adult evening classes gone) but we still pay a hefty amount of council tax.

So under a Labour government I as a biological woman, working in the NHS on the frontline and will be expected to share our women’s changing rooms with any man with a GRC. I will probably be taxed more as a higher rate taxpayer because the tax bands have stayed static for years and I will expect less public services because I live in the suburbs but my council taxes will most likely increase just to sustain what we already have

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BodenCardiganNot · 01/07/2024 09:39

I think it's great that the Tories will be decimated.

Channel42 · 01/07/2024 09:41

That about sums it up, OP. It's a bad time to be a woman.

Coldia · 01/07/2024 09:41

BodenCardiganNot · 01/07/2024 09:39

I think it's great that the Tories will be decimated.

Absolutely.

Bring it on.

TheSixQuarks · 01/07/2024 09:42

I will not mourn the Tories and all they have done to make life harder for all of us. Friday will be a great day.

Justrolledmyeyesoutloud · 01/07/2024 09:43

I won't be voting for Labour

AtrociousCircumstance · 01/07/2024 09:44

The Tories have to go.

But yes I’m despairing about what’s happening to women’s rights and Labour’s stance on it.

We have to scrape the toxic Tories off this country though.

I hear you and it’s shit.

CraftyNavySeal · 01/07/2024 09:44

Under the Tories women have been murdered due to cuts to probation services and policing, women and children have been forced into poverty and made dependent on food banks.

As much as I think genderwang is bollocks I think women will be fine seeing a trans woman in the bathroom occasionally

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Velicirapitor · 01/07/2024 09:46

All women are already second class to men. Trans women are already above women, as they are men. However, it’s set to get worse, much worse, with a Labour government.

Treaclewell · 01/07/2024 09:46

It is not that we will be second class citizens, though that is the usual expression. Forget the citizen part. Not even second class humans.
Time to bring out the suffragists borrowing from the US Independecy War. "No Taxation without representation" which must mean more than a five year chance to vote. It means listening to our concerns and recognisinig their validity and responding to them.

MoreThanThis78 · 01/07/2024 09:46

The Tories have also refused to pass the cohabitation bill which has left thousands of women stuck in abusive relationships.

I don’t actually know Labour’s position on it but anyone finding reasons to support the Tories when the country as a whole is in its knees, is bonkers

DTisawazzock · 01/07/2024 09:47

I think it's going to be a really frightening time to be a woman. Even worse than now.

I am so glad I don't have any daughters.

Youthinkyoureuniqueyourejustastatistic · 01/07/2024 09:49

I’m not sure what you think is already happening under the tories or why voting for any other party would be better than the one most likely to unseat the Tories.

FalulaGeller · 01/07/2024 09:53

I will be very glad to see the back of the Tories.

I have no hope that Labour will improve things significantly (I have always voted Lib/Lab in the past) and I am horrified at what is coming for women, girls and children. There is noone I can vote for on Thursday in good conscience.

Nosweetpeas · 01/07/2024 09:56

You work for the NHS and you are worried about how a Labour government will affect your job, seriously? You can't really think the conservatives care about women's rights? I mean some of them quite openly believe women shouldn't be allowed to work, have abortions ect.

gardenmusic · 01/07/2024 09:56

Tories have to go. That's it really. If it has to be Labour, so be it.
We will fight them when they are in.
I'm not wasting my vote elsewhere.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/07/2024 09:58

It's not just middle class women. If anyone thinks Labour will do anything for the working class, they're in the wrong decade/century.

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 01/07/2024 09:59

The tories need to go but Labour scares me. There is nothing good coming out of this election at best Labour will kick the can down the road on some financial stuff and hope an upturn pays for it. The women's stuff - biological women will suffer, how can you claim discrimination when you are going to compared to a biological man. We are discriminated on due to our ability to gestate the next generation, if you can employ a "woman" you know won't be affected why wouldn't you and there's no discrimination claim. All "women" are equal but some are more equal than others

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 01/07/2024 10:02

DTisawazzock · 01/07/2024 09:47

I think it's going to be a really frightening time to be a woman. Even worse than now.

I am so glad I don't have any daughters.

I can’t wait for Friday.

And l have a daughter. She wants to vote Labour.

Can’t fucking wait!

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 01/07/2024 10:08

The Labour government from the most moderate party in years scares you! I bet it doesn't-this is Tory scaremongering as you think you'll lose.

Proudtobeanortherner · 01/07/2024 10:09

It’s a bad time to be anyone if Labour wins with the suggested majority. There will be nobody to challenge them but yes biological
women will suffer most. Maybe they will
repeat our right to vote next?

ArabellaFishwife · 01/07/2024 10:10

I've been a second class citizen for 12 years now. Guess what that overlaps with. I'll take my chances, thanks.

MotherFeministWoman · 01/07/2024 10:11

Proudtobeanortherner · 01/07/2024 10:09

It’s a bad time to be anyone if Labour wins with the suggested majority. There will be nobody to challenge them but yes biological
women will suffer most. Maybe they will
repeat our right to vote next?

So you can vote twice? Which makes about as much sense as what you actually meant.

CaptainmyCapta1n · 01/07/2024 10:12

Some of you really are so determined to see yourself as victims aren't you?

VoteOutToHelpOut · 01/07/2024 10:14

What exactly is Labour going to do to middle class biological women?

As there several middle class biological women who are about to become ministers, I am not sure what is going to happen to them? Will they be kicked out of the party?

Honestly, it is fine that you don't support Labour and its policies and are worried about a Labour administration, but this level of catastrophising is odd.

Labour is a centrist party, not a brigade of lunatics bent on erasing middle class biological women.