Middle class biological women prepare to be relegated to being second class citizens by the end of the week

[Mycatsmudge]

The Labour Party is expected to win a huge majority in the GE on Thursday. My fears are their stance on trans rights which are being prioritised over those of biological women and this will risk our safety, opportunities and dignity. I also work in the NHS and read what is happening to the nurses in Darlington with horror.

My other concern is they have not been transparent on their plans on how to raise money for their spending pledges other than say they will invest and reap the benefit of green technology. This is not going to happen in the foreseeable future. I can only conclude we will be taxed even more but stealthy.

Then I read this in their manifesto:
‘Expansion of the Equality Act 2010Labour will implement the socioeconomic protected characteristic of the Equality Act, also the socioeconomic duty under Section 1 of the Equality Act and ensure equality impact assessments of government policy are conducted.5 Jun 2024’
To me this means richer areas will get less money from government for public services than poorer areas. I live in an area which is very boringly middle class but our public services are already cut to the bone(bin collections fortnightly, potholes left for months, all adult evening classes gone) but we still pay a hefty amount of council tax.

So under a Labour government I as a biological woman, working in the NHS on the frontline and will be expected to share our women’s changing rooms with any man with a GRC. I will probably be taxed more as a higher rate taxpayer because the tax bands have stayed static for years and I will expect less public services because I live in the suburbs but my council taxes will most likely increase just to sustain what we already have

But this one is about middle class women so it's verwy vewy important.

The Tories would take out us out of the ECHR, further erode the rights of workers and continue their assault on the services we all rely on.

I'm not voting Labour, but the idea that they are more of a threat to women's rights than the Tories is ludicrous.

Haven’t seen a new private schools one for about 20 mins. Might go start one.

Don't be so ridiculous. I am very much gender critical and of course have concerns about what path Labour will take, BUT everything I've seen so far has reassured me it will be sensible. Keir Starmer hasn't said trans women are women. He's being incredibly careful in his choice of wording and I believe him to be a sensible and intelligent, considerate man.

This has all happened under the Tories... as has the absolute decimation of public services, which negatively affects women far more in everyday life.

I will be absolutely fucking ecstatic if Labour win on Thursday, as we will finally have grown ups in charge who will deal with problems carefully rather than stoking the fires of culture war for their own benefit.

Oh well I'm working class so I guess I'll be ok if it's only middle class women that will be affected

Sorry but didn't the Tory governement purpose to stop Nurses Striking. Have delayed the payrise proposal for 2024/25 by months.

Provided frontline NHS staff with ineffective or NIL PPE in Covid and lined their pockets at the same time.

Also the 14 years of increased sexism, racism and unaccountablility in the police and fireservices. Murder of women and rapes etc in this governement.

We had a trans women on our ward and yes she shared a changing room but was very respectful and the respect worked both ways.

What is the middle class bit about? Totally unnecessary and undermines your argument

Spot on.

The Tories have to go! This catastrophising is unnecessary, so many bigger issues at play here. I’m really sorry as I know this does feel like a massive issue for many Mumsnetters but we cannot continue under the current regime.

I am very, very worried about Reform and the far-right gaining credibility and power, as their policies will certainly not benefit women and we will all be fucked. Goodbye equal pay, goodbye maternity rights.

Sounds like a great time to be a human in the UK who isn’t in the small, select, group of people who benefitted from tory policies.

Hear hear! The gender debate has literally gained momentum under the Tories. Why does anyone think the Tories are the solution for change on this issue?

Some bullshit about them being able to define "what a woman is"? It hasn't stopped them enacting damage to women so far.

Yup, of all the things in this country to be worried about, around 0.1% of the population is not something that should be an electoral issue. And no, rules to keep trans women out of female spaces would do nothing to protect women, will not stop abusive men and will not make any impact on statistics (in fact the mere rhetoric is already causing women to be harrassed by the self-appointed toilet police so if anything it's creating problems and distress for women, and one of these days it will result in a serious physical assault), so maybe time and money would be better spent on things that would actually protect women.

Starter was clear he’ll protect women’s spaces but had to “be kind” to the few to keep their votes. We should be okay I think. People aren’t scared to say “fuck that” anymore.

I do think that all Tory HQ apparatchiks are pretty clumsy and obvious when they attempt to impersonate middle-class women terrified of an incoming Labour government. They always parody what they think MNers 'sound' like, and jump the shark in the first post.

Well, I think they're obvious anyway. As if Tory Boy and Tim Nice-But-Dim were on duty pretending to post as their mums.

We are already seeing serious physical assaults on women and children, in what should be safe single sex spaces, by adult males who claim to be women.
Labour policy will just make that scenario easier for those males and much more difficult for women to report or prevent.
We can only hope that they will eventually listen to women asking for safeguarding.

I'm not from the UK so for my class identity I rely on fortune cookies.

No, that's not the thing that I'm worried about.

The thing that I'm worried about is the erasure of my sex class.

What I take from your post, OP, is that you don't give a shit about working class people, whether male or female. A bad, bad look. I am enjoying the Tory desperation though. Roll on Friday!

And no, rules to keep trans women out of female spaces would do nothing to protect women

They would be rules to keep all men out of female spaces. "Trans women" are any man who declares himself to be a woman. Most women don't want them there, according to polling. Also, I don't want official toilet police, I want it socially unacceptable for any men to use women only spaces.

Also what @AutumnCrow said. Typical misunderstanding of women's concerns.

It's very obvious in some cases. I saw Kemi Badenoch described as a 'cognitive Goliath' on one thread. Another thread was titled 'Labour are going to anhiliate women's rights'.

Me neither

Ah the usual Tory shill-esque thread about trans woman's rights, Labour say they'll have sex based exemptions for certain spaces but that's not good enough because some imaginary nonsense that the usual suspects suggest its going to be Gilead by the 5th of July while simultaneously ignoring all the harms done and continue to be done to woman and children by this Tory government, at least be honest hold your heads up high and say fuck poor women you intended to vote Tory anyway 🙄

BS.
I cannot be relegated to more of a second or third or fourth class citizen than we all were, back
at sweet home of a Communist country.
Hopefully Reform will make a proper mess in the henhouse.
😁