Middle class biological women prepare to be relegated to being second class citizens by the end of the week

[Mycatsmudge]

The Labour Party is expected to win a huge majority in the GE on Thursday. My fears are their stance on trans rights which are being prioritised over those of biological women and this will risk our safety, opportunities and dignity. I also work in the NHS and read what is happening to the nurses in Darlington with horror.

My other concern is they have not been transparent on their plans on how to raise money for their spending pledges other than say they will invest and reap the benefit of green technology. This is not going to happen in the foreseeable future. I can only conclude we will be taxed even more but stealthy.

Then I read this in their manifesto:
‘Expansion of the Equality Act 2010Labour will implement the socioeconomic protected characteristic of the Equality Act, also the socioeconomic duty under Section 1 of the Equality Act and ensure equality impact assessments of government policy are conducted.5 Jun 2024’
To me this means richer areas will get less money from government for public services than poorer areas. I live in an area which is very boringly middle class but our public services are already cut to the bone(bin collections fortnightly, potholes left for months, all adult evening classes gone) but we still pay a hefty amount of council tax.

So under a Labour government I as a biological woman, working in the NHS on the frontline and will be expected to share our women’s changing rooms with any man with a GRC. I will probably be taxed more as a higher rate taxpayer because the tax bands have stayed static for years and I will expect less public services because I live in the suburbs but my council taxes will most likely increase just to sustain what we already have

Well, to be fair they will have a choice.

To use the resource conditional on willing to enable the male in the space with their presence, or to lose all access to the resource.

It's going to suck a bit if you're Autistic, disabled, of an orthodox faith or culture etc and actually can't access a mixed sex space at all, but I'm sure all women will gladly see those women excluded from society if it makes a small number of male people happy and respects their dignity

Except at least a Left Wing Patriarchy will invest in education, NHS and social care, which women are mostly at the sharp end of.

Except at least a Left Wing Patriarchy will invest in education, NHS and social care

Let's see, shall we.

I suspect they are Tory Boy and Tim Nice-But-Tim types at Tory HQ posting to each other.

I don't know a single woman in RL struggling to vote Labour who is actually toying with voting Tory (or Reform, Lib Dem, Green) instead. Not a single one. They're looking at the independent candidate or spoiling their votes.

So the Tories said they'll put fewer men into women's prisons.

Fuck that, it is far too little, far too late and they're still going to put men in the women's estate. The idea that the Tories give a shit about vulnerable women is pure nonsense.

Do I welcome investment in the NHS at the price of women's rights and equality, child safeguarding, no one being able to mention women, sex, reality or anatomy, and criminalisation for not obeying and submitting to a male person's personal reality above my own perceptions?

Uhm. No. Not really.

We have so few choices with the voting system we have

We can spoil our vote which won't help anyone

Or we can vote tactically - by that I mean with a long term goal in mind

For me that means voting to get the tories / right wing out because they shaft everyone in so many ways

Then we work on the gender rubbish again - progress has been made there and will continue to be made

It doesn't matter to me so much if someone Knows it's a woman they are shafting if we are still being shafted by the horrendous policies over the last 14 years - in fact it's more condescending- yes we know you area woman and suffer most under austerity and we don't give a damn isn't an endearing message

I've answered it numerous times, and it was easy.

Why the fuck should women have to choose?

Why isn't Labour the party of women's rights?

The austerity was the fault of Labour in the first place for blowing so much money and over spending and getting us into huge debt! Can we stick with the actual facts please.

I'm not sure how that legislation helps the women who have been sexually assaulted by Tory policy.

I think this is a bit of an extreme view, PP. We are not looking at a Gilead situation here.

Liz Truss's Bill to define sex as biological sex was filibustered by Labour MPs and you know it.

Given that a Labour victory is a near certainty, what are Labour hostile posters going to do?

is it?

a) gnash teeth
b) wait for Kemi Badenoch to say what she would have done if only she had the chance?
c) attempt to influence Labour?

If it’s not c) then this thread is ridiculous

I'm not sure why you're swearing at me.
This happens every time on GE threads and I'm fed up with it.
Good luck if you get a Conservative government again. I'll be punching the air if Labour get in.

Proudly voting labour.

In my previous life as a teacher, teaching PSHE in schools the 'gender ideology' that is often demonised is usually no more than an hour in five years. We had stonewall in once, the session was delivered by a trans woman. There was no pushing or conversion tactics at all. It was informative and the kids enjoyed it, she talked extensively about the difficulties she faced and how hard it was. We also had similar sessions on Family, Islam, Judaism, LGB, The Prison Service (which included a mobile cell), Police, Army etc. They were all about understanding people that are different.
There is an issue in schools with kids transitioning - but it doesn't come from schools it comes from social media and the internet.

This scaremongering about Trans people at the moment is out of control and so filled with hatred (on both sides). Starmer was right when he said we need to unite and work together / that's what I want for kids.

Ummm. The polls have been wrong before. I wouldn't count on it my friend.

You'd think we were, according to some posters

That doesn't answer the question. What legislation have they brought in?

They legislated for single sex spaces, up to them they were being used by everyone! Labour plans to reverse that legislation by the way.

One of the many reasons Labour didn’t get my vote (I have postal voted).

The Tories are not in the business of helping women who have been sexually assaulted.

From practically decriminalising rape, to opposing legistlation that would protect the women who work for them, to using party funds to pay for private medical treatment of a victim of the Tory multiple rapist, then telling her to get over it, they really couldn't be clearer.

Which Tory MP thinks women shouldn't be allowed to work? That would be quite an extreme view for 2024 and not really consistent with the party's economic plans.

The swearing isn't directed specifically at you, it's general frustration.

It should not be a binary choice between the fucking Tories and people who don't accept that women have the right to exist.

What a time to be alive.

What excellent points. I do question why anyone thinks that a Conservative government will support women any more than a Labour one. It's baffling.
I've had so many nasty, personal responses when I've discussed this on here, it's a pity it's so polarised.