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General election 2024

Nope to labour

811 replies

Mrsdeehoang · 14/06/2024 21:51

I was considering voting for Labour, but their manifesto proposal to change the VAT on private education has made me reconsider. I'm not financially well-off, just about managing, and I took on two jobs to afford the fees for my son’s private grammar school. Despite our efforts, he couldn’t get a place in any of the five local state schools due to oversubscription, and our appeal was unsuccessful. We were instead assigned a school outside our area with a poor Ofsted report. Faced with this choice, I opted to work harder to provide him with a better education privately. The proposed VAT changes would make it even harder for families like mine to manage.

For me, Labour doesn’t seem to understand that not everyone who sends their children to private school is wealthy. I don’t like the Tories either, but I would rather vote for them than for Labour.

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AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/06/2024 21:12

Aladdinzane · 16/06/2024 21:12

@GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight

It has totally slipped, they have been entirely revealed ( as I said before everyone is realising the Emperor is naked).

It also reveals just how morally repugnant they are, they use women and girls safety as a smoke screen for their own prejudices.

Just like Tommy Robinson using the safety of women and girls to attack Muslim people.

And then they wonder why no one listens to them

😂😂😂

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 16/06/2024 21:14

You're completely incapable of hearing or understanding transgender people

No, I'm not

then

Why do I need to hear or understand trans people

At least try and make your mind up lol

swimsong · 16/06/2024 21:15

Busybee44 · 14/06/2024 22:02

Totally support Vat to be charged on private schools , they are not chartities!

Half of them are registered charities though. I don't think they should benefit from Gift Aid either.

izimbra · 16/06/2024 21:16

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/06/2024 21:05

It's been eventually boring to watch people just copy and paste their posts when they've run out of arguments and resort to 'you just hate trans people you big bigots'. Have a day off.

You do just hate transpeople though. Everything you've said and the way you talk about them - your contempt for them and refusal to even try to understand them is testament to this.

Anyway, while you're here, you were going to explain how your friend's daughter was (apparently) traumatised by the sight of a transwoman in a swimsuit. You said it was more than just seeing them - were you hinting at something criminal or sinister? You've not come back on that one but maybe you should.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/06/2024 21:17

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 16/06/2024 21:14

You're completely incapable of hearing or understanding transgender people

No, I'm not

then

Why do I need to hear or understand trans people

At least try and make your mind up lol

'No I'm not' referred to me denying I was a bigot. Being a bigot doesn't equate to not needing to understand trans people.

I'm feeling embarrassed by your posts.

DownWithThisKindOfThing · 16/06/2024 21:20

Metaphorically shout in their face 'you're just a man in a dress' until they agree with you or kill themselves?

first of all, threats of suicide unless people agree with a stance are manipulative and abusive.

Secondly, if a man who says he is a woman feels triggered by someone saying he is a man, that is for him to manage. Not everyone else to change their opinions or language.

Aladdinzane · 16/06/2024 21:20

@AccidentallyWesAnderson

I totally haven't run out of arguments.

What has happened here is that yours have been deconstructed and exposed for the utter rubbish they are.

It's you that is embarrassed, and so should you be.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 16/06/2024 21:20

You're completely incapable of hearing or understanding transgender people

No, I'm not. It's just lazy

You directly quoted the top bit and answered with
No, I'm not. It's just lazy

if you were referring to the bigot comment in another post, why quote that bit completely randomly?
Don't even bother trying to gaslight me, it's all on the thread.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/06/2024 21:20

You do just hate transpeople though. Everything you've said and the way you talk about them - your contempt for them and refusal to even try to understand them is testament to this.

No I don't. Your comprehension skills are lacking somewhat but that was apparent a while ago.

Anyway, while you're here, you were going to explain how your friend's daughter was (apparently) traumatised by the sight of a transwoman in a swimsuit. You said it was more than just seeing them - were you hinting at something criminal or sinister? You've not come back on that one but maybe you should.

I don't need to explain anything. Most decent people know that men should stay out of women's changing rooms where six year olds are, let alone walk about and linger with tight verging on see through trunks on.

Do you advocate this? Do you need to speak to someone?

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/06/2024 21:21

Aladdinzane · 16/06/2024 21:20

@AccidentallyWesAnderson

I totally haven't run out of arguments.

What has happened here is that yours have been deconstructed and exposed for the utter rubbish they are.

It's you that is embarrassed, and so should you be.

Nothing to be embarrassed about.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 16/06/2024 21:22

Do you need to speak to someone?

🙄😂

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/06/2024 21:22

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 16/06/2024 21:20

You're completely incapable of hearing or understanding transgender people

No, I'm not. It's just lazy

You directly quoted the top bit and answered with
No, I'm not. It's just lazy

if you were referring to the bigot comment in another post, why quote that bit completely randomly?
Don't even bother trying to gaslight me, it's all on the thread.

I'm not even sure what you're on about anymore.

Aladdinzane · 16/06/2024 21:22

@DownWithThisKindOfThing

But we know that trans people do face higher suicide risks than other groups, it should be acknowledged what the views of others play in this.

"Not everyone else to change their opinions or language."

They don't have to change their opinion, I think you'll find society has already decided that it is appropriate to change your language.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 16/06/2024 21:23

Seeing as you seem to have been reduced to only being able to emoji react or playground jibes, thought I would too

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/06/2024 21:23

Aladdinzane · 16/06/2024 21:22

@DownWithThisKindOfThing

But we know that trans people do face higher suicide risks than other groups, it should be acknowledged what the views of others play in this.

"Not everyone else to change their opinions or language."

They don't have to change their opinion, I think you'll find society has already decided that it is appropriate to change your language.

I'm sure this suicide myth has been debunked. Have you got stats/evidence to back that up?

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 16/06/2024 21:23

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/06/2024 21:22

I'm not even sure what you're on about anymore.

Figures

Aladdinzane · 16/06/2024 21:24

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/06/2024 21:21

Nothing to be embarrassed about.

You really do. You've been exposed as being morally and intellectually bankrupt here.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 16/06/2024 21:25

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/06/2024 21:17

'No I'm not' referred to me denying I was a bigot. Being a bigot doesn't equate to not needing to understand trans people.

I'm feeling embarrassed by your posts.

Was in reference to this

Aladdinzane · 16/06/2024 21:26

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/06/2024 21:23

I'm sure this suicide myth has been debunked. Have you got stats/evidence to back that up?

There is a fair amount of it online and has been the generally accepted case for a while.

Have you got the stats to back up your claim that its been debunked? More than one study? Because the suicide risk thing is in repeated studies.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/06/2024 21:26

You really do. You've been exposed as being morally and intellectually bankrupt here.

Sure.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/06/2024 21:26

@Aladdinzane well provide them then.

Aladdinzane · 16/06/2024 21:29

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/06/2024 21:26

@Aladdinzane well provide them then.

You are the one stating that something that has been held to be common knowledge for a long time has been debunked, you prove it,

Bet you can't.

Even more embarrassing for you.

Aladdinzane · 16/06/2024 21:30

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/06/2024 21:26

You really do. You've been exposed as being morally and intellectually bankrupt here.

Sure.

You really have.

It has been joyous to watch and take part in.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/06/2024 21:31

You stated something as fact. At least try and back it up. Something that has been held as common knowledge - by whom?

Aladdinzane · 16/06/2024 21:33

By everyone, its been stated in the press and many other sources countless times.

Come on where is your evidence its been debunked?

Waiting.

Hoping you come through.

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