Nope to labour

[Mrsdeehoang]

I was considering voting for Labour, but their manifesto proposal to change the VAT on private education has made me reconsider. I'm not financially well-off, just about managing, and I took on two jobs to afford the fees for my son’s private grammar school. Despite our efforts, he couldn’t get a place in any of the five local state schools due to oversubscription, and our appeal was unsuccessful. We were instead assigned a school outside our area with a poor Ofsted report. Faced with this choice, I opted to work harder to provide him with a better education privately. The proposed VAT changes would make it even harder for families like mine to manage.

For me, Labour doesn’t seem to understand that not everyone who sends their children to private school is wealthy. I don’t like the Tories either, but I would rather vote for them than for Labour.

*You really have.

It has been joyous to watch and take part in.*

Very good. I wish I could say the same about your (copy and paste) contributions. Anyway, do you have anything to back up your opinions that you present as facts?

Nobody's threatening suicide. The fact you fished around for a way of turning what I'd said into an accusation of oppressive behaviour by transwomen is a big tell.

The constant cruelty, contempt and rejection of transgender individuals creates a huge amount of emotional distress.

"Secondly, if a man who says he is a woman feels triggered by someone saying he is a man, that is for him to manage. Not everyone else to change their opinions or language."

Thanks for this solid display of your absolute failure to understand how transpeople feel and think, and your utter contempt for them.

You just can't help yourself.

Have you ever sat down and talked to a trans person? Asked them about why they feel the way they do, and what's bought them to the point in their life where they feel they need to transition? Or is it impossible for you to put yourself in the shoes of a trans person because you've never met one in real life and simply don't have the imagination?

Nope. Not true.

What press? The Guardian? Pink News?

I'll have a look.

And likewise. Come through with at least something.

@AccidentallyWesAnderson

"Very good. I wish I could say the same about your (copy and paste) contributions."

They may be repetitious in some places, but the critiques of your standpoint bear repeating.

You are floundering here though.

There is a fair amount of it online and has been the generally accepted case for a while

That's your evidence?! 😂

Why should I bother, you were the one that claimed it wasn't true. Burden of proof lies on you.

Come on, if you can't prove it then at least admit it.

Floundering with what? I'm waiting on you evidencing your facts opinions.

Secondly, if a man who says he is a woman feels triggered by someone saying he is a man, that is for him to manage. Not everyone else to change their opinions or language

This is just so hypocritical though when the word cis has literally been made a delete worthy offence on here by people "getting triggered by it when it should be for them to manage."

https://sex-matters.org/posts/updates/dispelling-the-suicide-myth/

fairplayforwomen.com/suicide/

There are two studies in there.

We are not triggered by it - just refuse to accept this made up label. Man and woman/male and female are biological FACTS.

How about this fact for example? You cannot be a transwoman unless you are a man/male. It is the single defining feature of a transwoman.

We are not triggered by it

I was just using your terminology.
If you're not really "triggered by it" surely you can see that people who are trans aren't always "triggered" too?
Yet still try to minimise /dismiss and lump them all as one "triggered" mass.

Floundering.

1. Using information from a site that is obviously biased towards one opinion
2. It uses two studies taken in the UK to attempt to refute the point and ignores the far wider set of research globally.

Easily dismissed.

I never use the word triggered so actually I was reflecting your terminology back to you. 🙄

As for the second half of your post - I have no idea what you are rattling on about tbh.

You dispute the findings of the Cass report then? Because that is quoted. Or maybe you have not looked at my link yet?

@ActivePeony

Again. Easy to dismiss, one, this only deals with teens and instead of referring to research which shows that the risk of suicide attempts is higher quotes people and the media saying it ( they are essentially strawmanning this).

Also, biased source.

Dismissed.

Secondly, if a man who says he is a woman feels triggered by someone saying he is a man, that is for him to manage. Not everyone else to change their opinions or language

Triggered - used here.
Not my wording.
Hypocritical to dismiss all trans people as "triggered" then get "triggered" enough to make c*s a deletable offence on here
Would be laughable if it wasn't so depressing

"You dispute the findings of the Cass report then?"

I don't recall the Cass report dealing with the suicide risk in all Trans people at all. Wasn't it just focused about the issues regarding children in the UK?

Oh dear, did you confuse what it was about?

So basically anything you disagree with is biased? The widely commended Cass Report is biased? 🤔

So you didn't read my link then? Why bother arguing if you are so lacking in knowledge and understanding?

https://sex-matters.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Suicide-factsheet.pdf

You must have super fast reading skills. So where's your offering?