Nope to labour

[Mrsdeehoang]

I was considering voting for Labour, but their manifesto proposal to change the VAT on private education has made me reconsider. I'm not financially well-off, just about managing, and I took on two jobs to afford the fees for my son’s private grammar school. Despite our efforts, he couldn’t get a place in any of the five local state schools due to oversubscription, and our appeal was unsuccessful. We were instead assigned a school outside our area with a poor Ofsted report. Faced with this choice, I opted to work harder to provide him with a better education privately. The proposed VAT changes would make it even harder for families like mine to manage.

For me, Labour doesn’t seem to understand that not everyone who sends their children to private school is wealthy. I don’t like the Tories either, but I would rather vote for them than for Labour.

The 'trans issue' doesn't really stand up when women don't have any issue with transmen in their spaces.

I could say the same! 😂

Not sure who these attacks are aimed at but people are allowed to agree or question and quote. Pretty much the point of mn. I don’t post to @AccidentallyWesAnderson on threads in particular but thought the pp was rational and reasonable

I’m not sure why women wouldn’t want those things. I know a couple don’t and actively want men in women’s spaces but men in women’s sports?

Not having that seems a good way to go, especially for dds, sporty or otherwise

£350M per week written on the side of the bus - failed to materialise

Comments similar to this seem to be trotted out quite a bit in election discussions and attributed to the Tories.

The Tories gave us the Brexit vote - we as a country voted for Brexit and this included many Labour strongholds. The fact that the vote didn’t go the way people thought it would, or wanted, could just as much be attributed to the Remain campaign being ineffectual. We live in a democracy and the Tory government had no option but to carry out what the majority of the country voted for. All elections are based on propaganda, just as this GE is, and parties rely on people believing in sound bites to get their vote and not bothering to read behind the headlines.

Btw, I don’t think we should have had the referendum as I believed all the issues about staying/leaving were too complex for the general population to truly understand, and I put myself in that category.

The Labour policies on state education relies on funding from the private education sector. Without that funding, none of the proposals put forward can be implemented.

An independent study showed the impact on VAT income depending on how many parents move their child to state school. From memory, a figure of around 10% means the policy costs the government rather than generating any income. Where will the funding therefore come from for the 6,500 new teachers, breakfast club, mental health support in schools? I acknowledge that a different study thought not many children would switch to state but how can anyone determine which study is correct.

From a government financing perspective and it’s impact on state education, I believe it does need highlighting.

They'll do as labour typically does and spend the money anyway, despite not having it. They'll ignore the fact that their back of a fag packet calculation is total and utter shit.

I think you’ll find it’s not Labour doing that.

It would be much better for everyone if people didn’t assume everyone is lying about their motives

thats aimed at everybody who does that by the way

thats what turns threads to shit

and everybody’s language gets policed all the time on here…its not a one way thing

@BIossomtoes
I think the debate around public debt as a percentage of GDP can be a toxic one where I'd like to see less heat and more light. It doesn't come up on the doorstep. And Tory MPs are a tiny vulnerable minority. (Or soon will be).

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OK

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cmll7k8pl2xo

Yes. We are heading for bankruptcy with the current lot who have quite happily siphoned off loads of public money into the bank accounts of their already wealthy friends.